[opensuse-kde3] Status of KDE3 in 11.3? & other questions
Just wondering if anyone knows the status of how KDE3 works in 11.3. I'm planning to install it on a machine shortly. As many of you may know, I completely dislike KDE4. It's too blingy(is that a word?) and I've never found any compelling reason to use it even after trying many times to make a go at it. So, I'm glad to see that we now have our own list to work on KDE3 with. I'm still running 11.0, and had noticed that 11.0-11.2 used many KDE4 libs because of using both DEs. Has this been removed so that we have a fully qt3/KDE3 experience like it was in 10.3 and earlier? I'm ready and willing to test(when I have the time). Thanx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On 2010/08/30 12:37 (GMT-0400) Larry Stotler composed:
Just wondering if anyone knows the status of how KDE3 works in 11.3. I'm planning to install it on a machine shortly.
I have it working on a couple text boxes where 11.3 amounts to conversion from 11.3's Factory.
I'm still running 11.0, and had noticed that 11.0-11.2 used many KDE4 libs because of using both DEs. Has this been removed so that we have a fully qt3/KDE3 experience like it was in 10.3 and earlier?
Are you sure 11.3 is the best choice of "upgrade"? Soon as 11.0 support expired I "upgraded" my 24/7 box to 11.2/KDE3 (other than the newer versions of K3B & Amarok). AFAICT, nothing improved, while CPU usage jumped, no sound from system speaker, & absent ability to write with K3B to used RW DVDs are the only degradations I've noticed. OTOH, 11.3 uses KMS, which is an infant technology with alpha/beta downstream effects on Xorg. Depending on your hardware, it may pay to skip 11.3. Best to check your video hardware against bug reports and Factory mailing list threads before deciding on your "upgrade" path. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
Are you sure 11.3 is the best choice of "upgrade"? Soon as 11.0 support expired I "upgraded" my 24/7 box to 11.2/KDE3 (other than the newer versions of K3B & Amarok). AFAICT, nothing improved, while CPU usage jumped, no sound from system speaker, & absent ability to write with K3B to used RW DVDs are the only degradations I've noticed. OTOH, 11.3 uses KMS, which is an infant technology with alpha/beta downstream effects on Xorg. Depending on your hardware, it may pay to skip 11.3. Best to check your video hardware against bug reports and Factory mailing list threads before deciding on your "upgrade" path.
Actually, no, I'm not. That's why I want to test 11.3 with KDE3. As for 11.2, I'm willing to bet part of the problem was with the Qt4 additions that made 11.0's KDE3 somewhat flakey in some ways(like how I managed to lose K3b from my menu.....). Harware-wise, I don't think 11.3 offers anything useful. I'm only using an nVidia 6200 and my machine is circa 2008(overclocked tho). However, I do want to update firefox from 3.6.3, which I must have either missed the update or something, or even to 4.0 when it's released. I wasn't pleased with 11.1's KDE3(or 11.1 really. It was released too soon IMO). I never installed KDE3 on 11.2. Never got around to it. KDE4/11.3 on older hardware has proven it's not a good idea, so I'm hoping to see how well KDE3 works in comparision. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 30 August 2010 21:14:44 Larry Stotler wrote:
Actually, no, I'm not. That's why I want to test 11.3 with KDE3. As for 11.2, I'm willing to bet part of the problem was with the Qt4 additions that made 11.0's KDE3 somewhat flakey in some ways(like how I managed to lose K3b from my menu.....).
Qt4 dependencies were removed from all repositories stored in KDE:KDE3, including those for 11.1 and 11.2 so no need to upgrade the system to get rid of Qt4. Just make sure you're installing KDE3 from KDE:KDE3 and nbot from OpenSUSE official repo (where Qt4 dependencies were not yet removed). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 30 August 2010 20:37:31 Larry Stotler wrote:
Just wondering if anyone knows the status of how KDE3 works in 11.3. I'm planning to install it on a machine shortly.
As many of you may know, I completely dislike KDE4. It's too blingy(is that a word?) and I've never found any compelling reason to use it even after trying many times to make a go at it. So, I'm glad to see that we now have our own list to work on KDE3 with.
I'm still running 11.0, and had noticed that 11.0-11.2 used many KDE4 libs because of using both DEs. Has this been removed so that we have a fully qt3/KDE3 experience like it was in 10.3 and earlier?
Yes, any KDE4 dependencies have been removed, so you an remove Qt4 from your computer completely. The state of KDE3 for 11.3 is the same as for 11.0 or even somewhat better.
I'm ready and willing to test(when I have the time).
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On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Ilya Chernykh <neptunia@mail.ru> wrote:
Yes, any KDE4 dependencies have been removed, so you an remove Qt4 from your computer completely.
The state of KDE3 for 11.3 is the same as for 11.0 or even somewhat better.
Excellent. Thanx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+help@opensuse.org
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