KDesktop http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/KDE/kdesktopTWgx280kcrash.txt KDE Daemon http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/KDE/kdedTWgx280kcrash.txt KDE Panel http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/KDE/kickerTWgx280kcrash.txt besides those 3 crashes on every session start, on multiple TW installations, 32 bit and 64 bit, there are no KDE system sounds, even though YaST2 test sound works and sound on Youtube in FF works. Everything else KDE3 that I tried seems OK. Is this only happening here? Anyone besides me use KDE3 in TW? There doesn't seem to be any KDE3 in TW bugs in BZ, and only one in openSUSE changed in past 13 months. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org