Re: [opensuse-java] Re: [opensuse-factory] Focusing on OpenJDK - Sun/Oracle JDK will not be in 12.1
On Saturday, September 03, 2011 11:52:23 PM Joaquin Sosa wrote:
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 08:37, Andreas Jaeger
wrote: Does it make sense to go to Open JDK7 for 12.1?
How about regular JDK 7? It can be handled like Firefox in 11.4: the beta was shipped, and later updated to the final version.
Regular JDK7 is not anymore under the distributor license, so not an option, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-java+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-java+help@opensuse.org
While I would not consider it ideal I would recommend keeping the last JDK 1.6 version that still is covered by the DLJ and ship the OpenJDK releases as well. There are some issues with OpenJDK 6 that prevent some applications from working. For the JDK 1.6 version a warning should/could be popped up when installing stating it is on its way out and is merely available as a convenience. This would give applications time to repackage until 12.2? Thoughts? Manfred -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Jaeger [mailto:aj@suse.com] Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 12:19 AM To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org Cc: opensuse-java@opensuse.org; Michal Vyskocil Subject: Re: [opensuse-java] Re: [opensuse-factory] Focusing on OpenJDK - Sun/Oracle JDK will not be in 12.1 On Saturday, September 03, 2011 11:52:23 PM Joaquin Sosa wrote:
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 08:37, Andreas Jaeger
wrote: Does it make sense to go to Open JDK7 for 12.1?
How about regular JDK 7? It can be handled like Firefox in 11.4: the beta was shipped, and later updated to the final version.
Regular JDK7 is not anymore under the distributor license, so not an option, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-java+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-java+help@opensuse.org ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3875 - Release Date: 09/03/11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-java+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-java+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 12:28:59AM -0500, Manfred Riem wrote:
While I would not consider it ideal I would recommend keeping the last JDK 1.6 version that still is covered by the DLJ and ship the OpenJDK releases as well.
As it was announced - the Java:sun:Factory wont be removed, so you can get dlj packages from here. The biggest change is it will not be updated as the cirumstances has been changed by Oracle.
There are some issues with OpenJDK 6 that prevent some applications from working.
For the JDK 1.6 version a warning should/could be popped up when installing stating it is on its way out and is merely available as a convenience. This would give applications time to repackage until 12.2?
No, if we know we cannot provide security updates, we can only drop the package from Factory. Regards Michal Vyskocil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-java+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-java+help@opensuse.org
Hi Michal, Thanks for the clarification. Do you know how many packages are going to be impacted by this change? And what happens with packages that have to depend on the DLJ version? Are they then also going to the Factory? Regards, Manfred -----Original Message----- From: Michal Vyskocil [mailto:mvyskocil@suse.cz] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 3:21 AM To: Manfred Riem Cc: 'Andreas Jaeger'; opensuse-factory@opensuse.org; opensuse-java@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-java] Re: [opensuse-factory] Focusing on OpenJDK - Sun/Oracle JDK will not be in 12.1 On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 12:28:59AM -0500, Manfred Riem wrote:
While I would not consider it ideal I would recommend keeping the last JDK 1.6 version that still is covered by the DLJ and ship the OpenJDK releases as well.
As it was announced - the Java:sun:Factory wont be removed, so you can get dlj packages from here. The biggest change is it will not be updated as the cirumstances has been changed by Oracle.
There are some issues with OpenJDK 6 that prevent some applications from working.
For the JDK 1.6 version a warning should/could be popped up when installing stating it is on its way out and is merely available as a convenience. This would give applications time to repackage until 12.2?
No, if we know we cannot provide security updates, we can only drop the package from Factory. Regards Michal Vyskocil ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3877 - Release Date: 09/04/11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-java+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-java+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 09:54:15AM -0500, Manfred Riem wrote:
Hi Michal,
Thanks for the clarification. Do you know how many packages are going to be impacted by this change?
Just one - java-1_6_0-sun, which has been dropped. All others Java stuff is build by openjdk from openSUSE 11.1, so there is no big change for us.
And what happens with packages that have to depend on the DLJ version? Are they then also going to the Factory?
You mean from Factory, don't you? But as I said, there's no package, which requires sun java, afaik. Regards Michal Vyskocil
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