Hello, i think i've to introduce myself. I am Stefan Schaefer. me and Ines Armbrust foundet the project "invis Server" in June 2008. Since then we tried to get popularity four our project. Last act for getting popularity was my talk about invis Server on the openSUSE Conference ... and it worked. There was an immediate interest to our project and for a partnership between invis server and openSUSE. As a first result Klaas Freitag founded an openSUSE Subproject called "openSUSE invis Server" and this mailinglist. A few words about our project. The idea behind is that the most companies in germany (an other european countries) are small, very small (with less then 10 employes). These companies often have no sysadmins an no IT-knowhow as well. Most server products for small business companies are downscaled enterprise products which are not as easy to use as it should be in these companies. With invis server we try to build a server product specially for this target group. I agree with Klaas in what should be our first steps. We have to talk about the packages which we have to include in our new openSUSE distribution. In my opinion we should start with all packages of the openSUSE text based installation and additional the patterns "lamp_server, print_server, file_server, dhcp_dns_server, directory_server and mail_server". Some extra tools as mc, nmap, and so on would be nice. Other ideas? We maintain some further packages like "smbldap-tools" in our buildservice repo, we should include them to the "openSUSE invis server" distribution. Our first goal should be a bootable and installable mini-distribution. Next step could be to package third party software, which we use. All of thes products like our groupware "group-e" and our erp-systems "lx-erp" (presence) and "IntarS" (future) are open-source-products. I hope that we find a lot of interested people to discuss these points. regards Stefan -- www.invis-server.org Stefan Schäfer Vogelsbergstr. 27 63679 Schotten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-invis+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-invis+help@opensuse.org