I can't see mails I send to this list?? Only replies. I never know if the mails I send make it.
Actually, a FWD. It was sent to users@ list. All, Since my crappy ISP started blocking mail from opensuse to my suddenlinkmail.com account I have had to switch my account to gmail. The problem is I never see the mails I send, not my original post or my replies to the list. Anybody else using gmail know how to fix this? I also can't use the hyperkitty mail interface because my account still has the suddenlinkmail.com address as my e-mail and when I attempt login, it "sends a verification e-mail..." to my suddenlink address which of course bounces and I never get it. Suggestions? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. d r a n k i n a t t y at g m a i l
On 2022-05-15 07:34, Felix Miata wrote:
Actually, a FWD. It was sent to users@ list.
All,
Since my crappy ISP started blocking mail from opensuse to my suddenlinkmail.com account I have had to switch my account to gmail. The problem is I never see the mails I send, not my original post or my replies to the list.
That's a feature. WONTFIX :-P Gmail intentionally deletes duplicate emails, and it detects them by checking the Message-ID header. When you send a post to the list, the copy of your email sent by the mail list server to gmail has obviously the same Message-ID as the one in your "Sent" folder, so the "copy" is deleted. Similarly, when someone replies to your post hitting "reply to all", you will get the direct copy, but not the copy from the list because it arrives seconds later, it is detected as duplicate, and deleted. Thus "Thunderbird" will not activate the "reply to list" button and you must remember to hit "reply to all", or by default you will send a personal reply instead. Sorry about that. What people do is copy sent mail to inbox (on Thunderbird), or equivalent. The only way you have to verify if the mail arrived at the list is to check the archive. Or, you could use two gmail accounts, one for sending, one for receiving. Never tried that, sorry, can't vouch for it.
Anybody else using gmail know how to fix this? I also can't use the hyperkitty mail interface because my account still has the suddenlinkmail.com address as my e-mail and when I attempt login, it "sends a verification e-mail..." to my suddenlink address which of course bounces and I never get it.
Suggestions?
About this, I have no idea. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2022-05-15 13:02, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2022-05-15 07:34, Felix Miata wrote:
Actually, a FWD. It was sent to users@ list.
All,
Since my crappy ISP started blocking mail from opensuse to my suddenlinkmail.com account I have had to switch my account to gmail. The problem is I never see the mails I send, not my original post or my replies to the list.
That's a feature.
WONTFIX
:-P
Gmail intentionally deletes duplicate emails, and it detects them by checking the Message-ID header. When you send a post to the list, the copy of your email sent by the mail list server to gmail has obviously the same Message-ID as the one in your "Sent" folder, so the "copy" is deleted.
Similarly, when someone replies to your post hitting "reply to all", you will get the direct copy, but not the copy from the list because it arrives seconds later, it is detected as duplicate, and deleted. Thus "Thunderbird" will not activate the "reply to list" button and you must remember to hit "reply to all", or by default you will send a personal reply instead.
Sorry about that.
What people do is copy sent mail to inbox (on Thunderbird), or equivalent.
The only way you have to verify if the mail arrived at the list is to check the archive.
Or, you could use two gmail accounts, one for sending, one for receiving. Never tried that, sorry, can't vouch for it.
Oh, there is a way if you have an opensuse.org alias: even if sent using the smtp server at gmail, as it sees a different from address, their duplicate algorithm is disabled. I just found that out this instant. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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