[heroes] Wiki update - call for testing
Hello, [cross-post - please reply only on one of the mailinglists] Those who visited the Heroes talk at the openSUSE Conference already know - there is visible progress on the wiki update and I have a *test* wiki running :-) So, what's new? The highlights are: - updated MediaWiki to 1.27.x (LTS release) and all extensions - now running on a VM in Nuremberg - including files directly from github - better search (elasticsearch) - now searching all namespaces, but with different weight - login is now done using openID - but still with your openSUSE login - namespace-specific boilerplates (page templates) when creating new pages - switched extension for RSS feed integration - this will need adjustments on the pages that include RSS feeds - watching a category (when pages get added to or removed from it) is now part of MediaWiki core - Hermes notification was dropped (was broken anyway, and MediaWiki's own notifications work much better) There's also something that isn't too new - the database dump I used to setup the test wiki ;-) It's from last August, so please don't worry about the outdated content ;-) That all said - the test wiki is available for testing at https://en-test.opensuse.org/ Please check if everything still works, play with it, test the new features, ...! It is a test instance, so nobody will complain if you do test edits that don't make sense content-wise ;-) At the same time, remember that it is a test instance, so any changes you do will be lost when I re-import the database dump for whatever reason. If you notice any issues, please report them - either in one of the mailinglists (opensuse-wiki preferred) or send a mail to admin@opensuse.org If you enjoyed testing the new wiki, please also take some time to go to our current wiki (en.opensuse.org or $LANG.opensuse.org) - there are lots of pages that need an update ;-) And finally - thanks to everybody who helped me to get everything in shape! I still have to do some work "under the hood". That shouldn't cause any problem with testing, but it means that I won't do the production wiki move and update in a few days ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz PS: oSC visitors may wonder why it's en-test.o.o instead of en.test.o.o now. That name change is caused by a funny problem with our SSL certificate - *.opensuse.org doesn't match something with an additional dot, and en.test.o.o had such a dot ;-) -- Was habt Ihr denn? emacs ist doch ein tolles Betriebssystem! Das einzige was ihm fehlt, ist ein vernünftiger Editor (vim?) [Jan Trippler in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
Am 30. Mai 2017 14:19:37 MESZ schrieb Christian Boltz <opensuse@cboltz.de>:
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Please consider sending separate emails, using the reply-to feature of your mua or simply put the other lists (that you want to inform, but not have discussions) in bcc next time. That is way less complicated for all the others and might result in one thread on only one mailing list, if done right.
Those who visited the Heroes talk at the openSUSE Conference already know - there is visible progress on the wiki update and I have a *test* wiki running :-)
Great news! Can we see an article about this on news.opensuse.org ?
There's also something that isn't too new - the database dump I used to setup the test wiki ;-) It's from last August, so please don't worry about the outdated content ;-)
What about newer dumps - or even some automated ways of getting them? IMHO that should help not only for testing but also for the real migration (now and for later version upgrades).
At the same time, remember that it is a test instance, so any changes you do will be lost when I re-import the database dump for whatever reason.
It's it possible to add this as a banner to every page?
PS: oSC visitors may wonder why it's en-test.o.o instead of en.test.o.o now. That name change is caused by a funny problem with our SSL certificate - *.opensuse.org doesn't match something with an additional dot, and en.test.o.o had such a dot ;-)
"funny" is not the right wording here, as it works as designed... ;-) Regards, Lars -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2017, 09:09:12 CEST schrieb Lars Vogdt:
Am 30. Mai 2017 14:19:37 MESZ schrieb Christian Boltz:
[cross-post - please reply only on one of the mailinglists]
Please consider sending separate emails, using the reply-to feature of your mua or simply put the other lists (that you want to inform, but not have discussions) in bcc next time. That is way less complicated for all the others and might result in one thread on only one mailing list, if done right.
I never tried if our MLs accept mails if the list isn't in To or CC, but I slightly doubt ;-) Having all replies on one mailinglist? Well, nice try - but all attemps I've seen failed and ended up in more cross posts and/or discussions on the "wrong" list because people aren't subscribed to the "right" one. Therefore I took the "whatever ML, but only one please" way which worked surprisingly well. (Actually, your mail was the only one with me in CC, everybody else did a list-reply to one ML.) The feedback I received so far looks good - the most serious complaint was that the login no longer happens automatically if you are logged in on another *.opensuse.org page. I wouldn't consider this a showstopper (it's a known and expected change from switching to openID), but if someone wants to improve it, that's more than welcome ;-) There was also the idea of a responsive design. Any volunteers? This is something that takes more time, so it has to happen after the wikis get updated - but starting the work now isn't a problem. BTW: What about https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/15906 ? You never answered after my comment... Oh, and I noticed a possible issue with the github integration extension which will need some more testing.
Those who visited the Heroes talk at the openSUSE Conference already know - there is visible progress on the wiki update and I have a *test* wiki running :-)
Great news! Can we see an article about this on news.opensuse.org ?
Not for the call for testing, but I'll make sure to have an article there when the first production wiki gets updated ;-) I also have a few topics that will end up on my blog and on planet.o.o, for example about packaging MediaWiki extensions. I'll of course include a link to en-test.o.o there ;-)
There's also something that isn't too new - the database dump I used to setup the test wiki ;-) It's from last August, so please don't worry about the outdated content ;-)
What about newer dumps - or even some automated ways of getting them? IMHO that should help not only for testing but also for the real migration (now and for later version upgrades).
That's the theory. In practise, it takes too much time. Importing the dump takes quite some time (the database dump is 2.5 GB), and running the MediaWiki database update script took about 15 minutes IIRC. So updating daily would result in too much downtime for a very small gain IMHO. Also, only a few people have access to the servers in Provo, and they are already busy enough, so I don't want to put superfluous load on them. (If someone really has some free minutes - we have enough open tickets for everybody ;-) My plan is: - get the mediawiki_1_27* packages from home:cboltz:infra into the to-be-created openSUSE:infrastructure:wiki - get the missing parts into salt - get a database on the mysql cluster (actually one for each wiki) - let salt setup the VMs (elasticsearch, Apache+Mediawiki) - when everything is in place, get the latest database dump and uploaded files and do a test migration - fix whatever breaks (hopefully nothing ;-) - do the real migration some days later (which includes setting the current wiki to read-only mode before getting the database dump and the files) Speaking about going productive: - should the storage for the wiki (especially uploaded images) be inside the VM or somewhere else? - what about daily backups? Can I get them "for free" or do I have to do something for it? (Something like rsnapshot is probably a good idea - the uploaded files have very few changes.) - what about daily database dumps/backups?
At the same time, remember that it is a test instance, so any changes you do will be lost when I re-import the database dump for whatever reason.
It's it possible to add this as a banner to every page?
Good idea, done.
PS: oSC visitors may wonder why it's en-test.o.o instead of en.test.o.o now. That name change is caused by a funny problem with our SSL certificate - *.opensuse.org doesn't match something with an additional dot, and en.test.o.o had such a dot ;-)
"funny" is not the right wording here, as it works as designed... ;-)
Well, it's the first time I hit this problem - I rarely had to work with wildcard certificates before. So yes, it works as designed, but it still was a bit surprising to me ;-) I mean, hey, the certificate says *.o.o, not [^.]*.o.o ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz --
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