[heroes] Planning for next heroes meeting in Nuremberg
Hi all, during yesterday's regular heroes meeting (and also during last week's sync call with Engineering Infrastructure) the idea was discussed to organize another heroes meeting in Nuremberg (last year's meeting was apparently skipped). This will be a great opportunity for all of us to meet in person, get to know each other (better), and talk about strategy and ideas, etc. We are currently planning to make this happen on Nov 15 - Nov 17 in the SUSE main office. The rough planning (for now) looks like this: - Arrival in Nuremberg on Friday (in the afternoon / early evening) - Friday evening dinner - Working/Discussing/Hacking on Saturday - [Voluntary beer in the evening?] - Working/Discussing/Hacking on Sunday - Departure in the afternoon In order to get a better understanding of the magnitude of such a meeting this year, I would like to ask everyone who wants to join us on this weekend to drop me a short message (either publicly and/or in private), so that I get a better overview of how many persons we are talking about. This is _NOT_ a final commitment yet and the planning might still change quite a bit. Best regards, Karol Babioch
On Wednesday, 2 October 2019 08.09.53 CEST Karol Babioch wrote:
Hi all,
during yesterday's regular heroes meeting (and also during last week's sync call with Engineering Infrastructure) the idea was discussed to organize another heroes meeting in Nuremberg (last year's meeting was apparently skipped).
This will be a great opportunity for all of us to meet in person, get to know each other (better), and talk about strategy and ideas, etc.
We are currently planning to make this happen on Nov 15 - Nov 17 in the SUSE main office.
The rough planning (for now) looks like this:
- Arrival in Nuremberg on Friday (in the afternoon / early evening) - Friday evening dinner - Working/Discussing/Hacking on Saturday - [Voluntary beer in the evening?] - Working/Discussing/Hacking on Sunday - Departure in the afternoon
In order to get a better understanding of the magnitude of such a meeting this year, I would like to ask everyone who wants to join us on this weekend to drop me a short message (either publicly and/or in private), so that I get a better overview of how many persons we are talking about.
This is _NOT_ a final commitment yet and the planning might still change quite a bit.
I would be very happy to join. During the monthly heroes meeting I have a recurring, conflicting meeting, however much more so I would be interested to see you guys in person :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/2/19 8:09 AM, Karol Babioch wrote:
during yesterday's regular heroes meeting (and also during last week's sync call with Engineering Infrastructure) the idea was discussed to organize another heroes meeting in Nuremberg (last year's meeting was apparently skipped).
An agenda-less meeting will waste a lot of time. How about compiling an agenda with some of the items you raised in your message "Results from meeting about openSUSE infrastructure"? I'd add to the agenda: - Review of current infrastructure and information transfer to newbies. - IAM - DNS Ciao, Michael.
Hi Michael, Am 03.10.19 um 13:16 schrieb Michael Ströder:
How about compiling an agenda with some of the items you raised in your message "Results from meeting about openSUSE infrastructure"?
I agree and I'm happy to compile such an agenda (with the input you've just provided). For now, I'm just trying to understand how many people might join such a meeting, so that we can plan accordingly (in terms of budget). Would you be willing/able to join ;-)? (Feel free to respond in private mail, if you don't want to make it public in advance ;-)). Best regards, -- Karol Babioch <kbabioch@suse.de> Project Manager Engineering Infrastructure SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Mary Higgins, Sri Rasiah
On 10/6/19 7:46 PM, Karol Babioch wrote:
Am 03.10.19 um 13:16 schrieb Michael Ströder:
How about compiling an agenda with some of the items you raised in your message "Results from meeting about openSUSE infrastructure"?
I agree and I'm happy to compile such an agenda (with the input you've just provided).
A more detailed agenda proposal - far from being complete, add lunch / coffee breaks as needed: Introductionary round (15 min.) Agenda bashing (10 min.) Review of existing infrastructure (120 min.) (This will also serve as knowledge transfer to newcomers like me.) - Data centers currently used - Infra building blocks (User management, DHCP, DNS, VPN, etc.) - Architecture diagrams - saltstack / gitlab - Dependency on MF and SUSE Brainstorming building blocks of new infrastructure (120 min.): - Membership management - User Management - DNS - Security aspects - Legacy stuff which should be updated or replaced - Collect random nice-to-have ideas - Choose things to try immediately Workshops (120-180 min.) eventually in parallel by several smaller groups to try out things immediately or write design documents or whatever. Summaries of workshop session(s) Decide next steps Just my 2 cent. Ciao, Michael.
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 22:28:49 +0200 Michael Ströder <michael@stroeder.com> wrote:
On 10/6/19 7:46 PM, Karol Babioch wrote:
Am 03.10.19 um 13:16 schrieb Michael Ströder:
How about compiling an agenda with some of the items you raised in your message "Results from meeting about openSUSE infrastructure"?
I agree and I'm happy to compile such an agenda (with the input you've just provided).
A more detailed agenda proposal - far from being complete, add lunch / coffee breaks as needed:
Introductionary round (15 min.)
Agenda bashing (10 min.)
Review of existing infrastructure (120 min.) (This will also serve as knowledge transfer to newcomers like me.) - Data centers currently used - Infra building blocks (User management, DHCP, DNS, VPN, etc.) - Architecture diagrams - saltstack / gitlab - Dependency on MF and SUSE
Brainstorming building blocks of new infrastructure (120 min.): - Membership management - User Management - DNS - Security aspects - Legacy stuff which should be updated or replaced - Collect random nice-to-have ideas - Choose things to try immediately
Workshops (120-180 min.) eventually in parallel by several smaller groups to try out things immediately or write design documents or whatever.
Summaries of workshop session(s)
Decide next steps
Just my 2 cent.
Ciao, Michael.
Hi I won't be there, but is there any plans to implement a single sign on solution, perhaps add to your discussions. Not have this will have an impact of moving the forum over and the clock for this is ticking..... -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) Tumbleweed 20191003 | GNOME Shell 3.32.2 | 5.3.2-1-default Intel DQ77MK MB | Xeon E3-1245 V2 X8 @ 3.40 GHz | Intel/Nvidia up 23:04, 2 users, load average: 0.32, 0.92, 0.94 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
Malcolm wrote:
Not have this will have an impact of moving the forum over and the clock for this is ticking.....
I am still waiting for a response from MF-IT ... for weeks. I have stopped psstering them, I figured it wasn't conducive to a result. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.1°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 11:02:23 +0200 Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org> wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
Not have this will have an impact of moving the forum over and the clock for this is ticking.....
I am still waiting for a response from MF-IT ... for weeks. I have stopped psstering them, I figured it wasn't conducive to a result. Hi Yes, MF are slow.... ;)
But what if all the effort your putting in is for nothing if it doesn't work with a sign on solution? -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) Tumbleweed 20191011 | GNOME Shell 3.32.2 | 5.3.4-1-default Intel DQ77MK MB | Xeon E3-1245 V2 X8 @ 3.40 GHz | Intel/Nvidia up 14:18, 2 users, load average: 0.36, 0.95, 0.85 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
Malcolm wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 11:02:23 +0200 Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org> wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
Not have this will have an impact of moving the forum over and the clock for this is ticking.....
I am still waiting for a response from MF-IT ... for weeks. I have stopped psstering them, I figured it wasn't conducive to a result.
Hi Yes, MF are slow.... ;)
In truth, I have had some great help from a couple of people over there.
But what if all the effort your putting in is for nothing if it doesn't work with a sign on solution?
You're right, I have to keep pushing - been busy with other stuff, pear harvest etc. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.3°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 19:02:09 +0200 Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org> wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 11:02:23 +0200 Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org> wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
Not have this will have an impact of moving the forum over and the clock for this is ticking.....
I am still waiting for a response from MF-IT ... for weeks. I have stopped psstering them, I figured it wasn't conducive to a result.
Hi Yes, MF are slow.... ;)
In truth, I have had some great help from a couple of people over there.
But what if all the effort your putting in is for nothing if it doesn't work with a sign on solution?
You're right, I have to keep pushing - been busy with other stuff, pear harvest etc.
Hi That's life :) I've tried pushing from our end again to find out the status of getting a copy of the database. -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) Tumbleweed 20191012 | GNOME Shell 3.32.2 | 5.3.5-1-default Intel DQ77MK MB | Xeon E3-1245 V2 X8 @ 3.40 GHz | Intel/Nvidia up 8:25, 2 users, load average: 0.64, 1.50, 1.35 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/11/19 6:58 AM, Michael Ströder wrote:
On 10/6/19 7:46 PM, Karol Babioch wrote:
Am 03.10.19 um 13:16 schrieb Michael Ströder:
How about compiling an agenda with some of the items you raised in your message "Results from meeting about openSUSE infrastructure"?
I agree and I'm happy to compile such an agenda (with the input you've just provided).
A more detailed agenda proposal - far from being complete, add lunch / coffee breaks as needed:
Introductionary round (15 min.)
Agenda bashing (10 min.)
Review of existing infrastructure (120 min.) (This will also serve as knowledge transfer to newcomers like me.) - Data centers currently used - Infra building blocks (User management, DHCP, DNS, VPN, etc.) - Architecture diagrams - saltstack / gitlab - Dependency on MF and SUSE
From a board perspective, it would be great if such a review resulted in a nice spreadsheet of all the current hardware, how many years warranty it has left (or how old it is if its out of warranty) and how important the hardware is so that we as the board can work with the Heroes and SUSE management to come up with a plan to slowly replace the aging infrastructure and so that we don't have more hardware outages that block both openSUSE and SUSE development. That is unless you think you can tackle it from within the Heroes team / SUSE Eng IT directly but as some of the board moves into some more detailed finance discussions with SUSE this is certainly something i'd like to raise as part of that. Medium term it could also become a foundation issue but personally I think we should SUSE Management the chance to live up to there commitment of providing openSUSE with all the core infra it needs first. Cheers -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Michael, Am 10.10.19 um 22:28 schrieb Michael Ströder:
A more detailed agenda proposal - far from being complete, add lunch / coffee breaks as needed:
Thanks for your effort, very much appreciated. We will most likely use your proposal. Details will follow, once I organizational matters are confirmed. Best regards, Karol Babioch
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