[heroes] Wiki update schedule
Hello, I'd like to summarize the schedule for the wiki update. Those who joined the last heroes meeting should already know it ;-) - beginning of next week (maybe tuesday evening, but I have to check this with Max and Theo): update the english wiki - let people do the real testing (aka "using/editing") in the updated english wiki - not too many people test on en-test.o.o, so if something is broken, we'll only find out after updating the production wiki - a week later: start updating the other wikis until a) all are done ;-) or b) 4 days before the Leap 42.3 release Update means (without including all the technical details): - the to-be-updated wiki will be set to read-only mode - Max fetches a database dump and the uploaded files - I import files and database dump to the wiki VM, update the database scheme etc. - when everything is ready, Theo switches over the DNS entry This means that the wiki will be read-only for some hours. @Ludwig and Doug: I know the 42.3 release is pretty soon. This is why I CC you. If one of you sees a problem with the above plan, please tell me ;-) @Doug: We'd like to have an article on news.o.o before the wiki update (announcing the downtime/read-only time), and an "update done" afterwards that also describes the changes and new features (based on the "What's new?" section on https://en-test.opensuse.org/Main_Page). An alternative would be to include the "What's new?" part already in the article that announces the read-only time, and update that article when the update is done. (Doug, which way do you prefer?) I'll draft the news article (probably tomorrow) and send it to you for review. Note: I don't have an account on news.o.o, so you'll probably need to post the news article (and update it or post the second one when the update is done). If you don't want to update news.o.o in the late evening, give me an account ;-) For the update of the other wikis, I'll probably use the admin blog - we have about 20 wikis, and having a news.o.o article for each of them would be a bit too much ;-) Oh, BTW - the new wiki VMs [1] are already running with Leap 42.3. Feel free to include this detail in the 42.3 marketing as soon as the english wiki is updated ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz [1] one VM for Apache, PHP and MediaWiki, another one for elasticsearch --
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@Ludwig and Doug: I know the 42.3 release is pretty soon. This is why I CC you. If one of you sees a problem with the above plan, please tell me ;-)
@Doug: We'd like to have an article on news.o.o before the wiki update (announcing the downtime/read-only time), and an "update done" afterwards that also describes the changes and new features (based on the "What's new?" section on https://en-test.opensuse.org/Main_Page). An alternative would be to include the "What's new?" part already in the article that announces the read-only time, and update that article when the update is done. (Doug, which way do you prefer?)
I'll draft the news article (probably tomorrow) and send it to you for review.
Note: I don't have an account on news.o.o, so you'll probably need to post the news article (and update it or post the second one when the update is done). If you don't want to update news.o.o in the late evening, give me an account ;-)
For the update of the other wikis, I'll probably use the admin blog - we have about 20 wikis, and having a news.o.o article for each of them would be a bit too much ;-)
Oh, BTW - the new wiki VMs [1] are already running with Leap 42.3. Feel free to include this detail in the 42.3 marketing as soon as the english wiki is updated ;-)
Regards,
Christian Boltz
[1] one VM for Apache, PHP and MediaWiki, another one for elasticsearch
Thank you Christian, I don't see any issues and think this is fine. Unless Ludwig has a concern, I see no reason not to proceed. Send me the article and I'll edit it and post it to news.o.o. on Monday if the plan is to move forward on Tuesday. I think it's best to to have a post about the reason for the downtime, the downtime schedule and an estimated date of completion. Once it's finished, another article about the new features and completion date would close the loop. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
Christian Boltz wrote:
I'd like to summarize the schedule for the wiki update. Those who joined the last heroes meeting should already know it ;-)
- beginning of next week (maybe tuesday evening, but I have to check this with Max and Theo): update the english wiki - let people do the real testing (aka "using/editing") in the updated english wiki - not too many people test on en-test.o.o, so if something is broken, we'll only find out after updating the production wiki - a week later: start updating the other wikis until a) all are done ;-) or b) 4 days before the Leap 42.3 release
Update means (without including all the technical details): - the to-be-updated wiki will be set to read-only mode - Max fetches a database dump and the uploaded files - I import files and database dump to the wiki VM, update the database scheme etc. - when everything is ready, Theo switches over the DNS entry
This means that the wiki will be read-only for some hours.
@Ludwig and Doug: I know the 42.3 release is pretty soon. This is why I CC you. If one of you sees a problem with the above plan, please tell me ;-)
Well, I'm not excited to see infrastructure changes in general before the release as you could imagine. However, since this is a matter close to your heart and a working wiki is exactly what are fighting for I'm confident that you will make this a seamless update. So I'm not going to object this. Thanks for taking care of the wiki Christian! cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.com/ SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
Hi On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:51:50 +0200 Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Well, I'm not excited to see infrastructure changes in general before the release as you could imagine.
LOL. Especially when I have that sentence: "After the release is before the release" in mind ;-)
Thanks for taking care of the wiki Christian!
Same from here: thanks for all your work and the effort to ping the right people on this! With kind regards, Lars -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
Lars Vogdt wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:51:50 +0200 Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Well, I'm not excited to see infrastructure changes in general before the release as you could imagine.
LOL. Especially when I have that sentence: "After the release is before the release" in mind ;-)
Well, there's a slight difference in having two weeks left until a release vs six months. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.com/ SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
Am 7. Juli 2017 17:01:46 MESZ schrieb Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel@suse.de>:
Lars Vogdt wrote:
LOL. Especially when I have that sentence: "After the release is before the release" in mind ;-)
Well, there's a slight difference in having two weeks left until a release vs six months.
C'mon: we had way worse timing in the past (broken main server at the release day, network outages during release, boot problems of the goldmaster, which got replaced seconds before the pressing machine started,...) :-D. But always got S.u.S.E. out in time. I do not accept anything that delays a release - or will fix it for you in person. :-D Lars -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: heroes+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: heroes+owner@opensuse.org
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