Sasi Olin wrote:
On Mo, Mär 15, 2021 at 15:33, Lars Vogdt <lars@linux-schulserver.de> wrote:
I know that the following is kind of unfair, so please don't take it as affront: * Are the maintainers of Gitlab and Progress aware of this?
Progress yes, we only discussed Gitlab in passing, so there I'm not sure
I would like to understand the reasoning behind wanting to ditch redmine in favour of <whatever> ? We only fairly recently spent quite a lot of effort on upgrading redmine. I don't even remember this being discussed ? Maybe I missed that meeting, dunno. Brgds Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (2.2°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 2:18 PM Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org> wrote:
Sasi Olin wrote:
On Mo, Mär 15, 2021 at 15:33, Lars Vogdt <lars@linux-schulserver.de> wrote:
I know that the following is kind of unfair, so please don't take it as affront: * Are the maintainers of Gitlab and Progress aware of this?
Progress yes, we only discussed Gitlab in passing, so there I'm not sure
I would like to understand the reasoning behind wanting to ditch redmine in favour of <whatever> ? We only fairly recently spent quite a lot of effort on upgrading redmine.
I don't even remember this being discussed ? Maybe I missed that meeting, dunno.
We discussed it in the Heroes meetings last spring, I think? It was also talked about at the oSLO last October. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!
Neal Gompa wrote:
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 2:18 PM Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org> wrote:
I would like to understand the reasoning behind wanting to ditch redmine in favour of <whatever> ? We only fairly recently spent quite a lot of effort on upgrading redmine.
I don't even remember this being discussed ? Maybe I missed that meeting, dunno.
We discussed it in the Heroes meetings last spring, I think?
The face-to-face meeting, pre-corona ? I would say unlikely. That was in February, I think tuanpembual was still working on the upgrade. Mind you, my sense of time has been rapidly deteriorating during Corona. Still, see issue#27720 where tuanpembual confirms upgrade complete, April 16 2020.
It was also talked about at the oSLO last October.
Maybe we can have a rehash of the reasoning, the "business case" ? IOW, please sell the idea to me. I see two keys issues: a) largely negating the valuable contribution of tuanpembual b) lack of actual issues with redmine. Personally speaking, redmine works well for me. We (the heroes) do not seem to have much effort with managing it, it _just_ works. If I were in a corporate competitive environment, I could easily work up an argument as to why Redmine is s*** and has to be changed, but I am not in a corporate environment. Again speaking personally, I really do not want to scale yet another learning curve dealing with the shitty implementation of the "next thing". TBH, mailman3 is bad enough. Hence, I want to see the reasoning and the business case. Neither of which has been forthcoming ? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (2.6°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes
Hi Neil Am Mon, 15 Mar 2021 15:34:07 -0400 schrieb Neal Gompa <ngompa13@gmail.com>:
We discussed it in the Heroes meetings last spring, I think? It was also talked about at the oSLO last October.
Sorry, looks like I missed these meetings. But after two short notice interviews here, it looks like other users of Redmine are also not informed/aware. What is the plan for: * QA * PackageHub * openSUSE Release-Team * openSUSE Marketing Team * openSUSE Board * Invis Server Team * High Performance Computing Team * ...and the admin wiki (even if this is under our control: where should the wiki be moved?) ..and more important: where is the documentation or FAQ I can point the members of - at least some (haven't asked all of them, yet) - these teams to? They are long term users of Redmine and have put a lot of their work into to the tool. So it would be good if we can provide at least a smooth migration path and documentation for them. Otherwise I fear that they might not only be surprised but also a but annoyed about the decommission of this working service. Regards, Lars
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