ham radio files missing
Hi all, I was just looking at the package list for SUSE 9.3 PRO on Novell's web site. I cannot find the "Ham radio" packages that are in the rest of the 9.x releases. They are not in the main package list nor are they in the DVD only list. Are they available, or did they get dropped? If not anybody know how to make a tarball into a suseRPM? Jim WA3UQD
Jim Didn't look at 9.3, but in 9.2 there also old files. E.g. node 0.3.0 Node 0.3.2 is out since at least a year. I think suse has no support any more by a ham peter Jim Hartzell wrote:
Hi all, I was just looking at the package list for SUSE 9.3 PRO on Novell's web site. I cannot find the "Ham radio" packages that are in the rest of the 9.x releases. They are not in the main package list nor are they in the DVD only list. Are they available, or did they get dropped? If not anybody know how to make a tarball into a suseRPM?
Jim WA3UQD
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On the 9.3 DVD the following rpm groups are listed under productivity/hamradio: Fax Logging Other Packet Psk31 Satellite 73's de Jon - KB0RVE On Apr 16, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Jim Hartzell wrote:
Hi all, I was just looking at the package list for SUSE 9.3 PRO on Novell's web site. I cannot find the "Ham radio" packages that are in the rest of the 9.x releases. They are not in the main package list nor are they in the DVD only list. Are they available, or did they get dropped? If not anybody know how to make a tarball into a suseRPM?
Jim WA3UQD
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I need to correct myself. I was looking at the wrong file location. The 9.3 DVD only has the productivity/hamradio/other package group. It does not include any of the others. I was apparently looking at the 9.2 DVD tree. The only hamradio software included on the 9.3 DVD is the PCR1000 control software. My apologies for this confusion. 73's de Jon - KB0RVE On Apr 16, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Jon Thorson wrote:
On the 9.3 DVD the following rpm groups are listed under productivity/hamradio:
Fax Logging Other Packet Psk31 Satellite
73's de Jon - KB0RVE
On Apr 16, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Jim Hartzell wrote:
Hi all, I was just looking at the package list for SUSE 9.3 PRO on Novell's web site. I cannot find the "Ham radio" packages that are in the rest of the 9.x releases. They are not in the main package list nor are they in the DVD only list. Are they available, or did they get dropped? If not anybody know how to make a tarball into a suseRPM?
Jim WA3UQD
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Am Samstag, 16. April 2005 22:35 schrieb Jon Thorson:
I need to correct myself. I was looking at the wrong file location. The 9.3 DVD only has the productivity/hamradio/other package group. It does not include any of the others. I was apparently looking at the 9.2 DVD tree. The only hamradio software included on the 9.3 DVD is the PCR1000 control software.
Hi HAMs! That is true! There are no more HAM packages on the CDs/DVDs. But there are still the install sources at the SuSE servers. As I have read on the german SuSE-HAM list, they are made by DL1BKE, precompiled for 9.3. You can find the packages f.e. at ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/ham/9.3-i386 or http://suse.cs.utah.edu/projects/ham/9.3-i386/ or http://search.belnet.be/packages/suse/projects/ham/9.3-i386/ or at serveral other places. The SuSE ftp server may be selected as installation source to ease the installation process. There should be everything you need and was contained in 9.2. I append the original post of Tim, DG7GT from the german SuSE list: -----snip Hallo Dieter, auch ich habe die Pakete vergebens auf den DVDs gesucht, und sie existieren tatsächlich nicht mehr. Allerdings gibt es ein Projekt von DL1BKE, das für SuSE 9.3 vorkompilierte Pakete bereitstellt. Die Pakete gibt's z.B. bei ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/ham/9.3-i386 oder http://suse.cs.utah.edu/projects/ham/9.3-i386/ oder http://search.belnet.be/packages/suse/projects/ham/9.3-i386/ oder diversen anderen Servern zum Download. Der SuSE-FTP-Server läßt sich direkt als Yast-Installationsquelle auswählen, dann lassen sich die Pakete sehr einfach installieren. Da ist alles dabei, was man so braucht und was bei der 9.2 alles dabei war... 73 de Tim, DG7GT ------snap 73 de Thomas DD7US
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 01:07:03PM -0400, Jim Hartzell wrote:
I was just looking at the package list for SUSE 9.3 PRO on Novell's web site. I cannot find the "Ham radio" packages
As Thomas wrote, you can find them on ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/ham/9.3-i386 or on any SUSE LINUX mirror that carries the projects folder. You can simply add the directory as a YaST installation source ("yast inst_source") to be able to install them via YaST. Please note that I maintain these package in my spare time and that I currently cannot test them as I don't find the time... Thus, the packages are not official SUSE LINUX packages. The reason for not delivering hamradio packages on the media kit is that most of the programs are quite old. It becomes more and more difficult to even be able to build them. Additionally, many of them won't build on any other system architecture than PC (i386), causing additional load on me and our autobuild team. And finally, the potential costs to react fast and correctly in case of security issues with these packages are too high to justify further support for the packages. Maintaining the packages privately has at least one advantage for me: I have to fix and build the packages only once within the last weeks of the beta phase of the product, opposed to (in some cases) weekly after someone has checked in a new gcc, glibc, QT or KDE update. 73, -- Joerg Reuter DL1BKE http://yaina.de/jreuter And I make my way to where the warm scent of soil fills the evening air. Everything is waiting quietly out there.... (Anne Clark)
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 01:07:03PM -0400, Jim Hartzell wrote:
I was just looking at the package list for SUSE 9.3 PRO on Novell's web site. I cannot find the "Ham radio" packages
As Thomas wrote, you can find them on
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/ham/9.3-i386
or on any SUSE LINUX mirror that carries the projects folder. You can simply add the directory as a YaST installation source ("yast inst_source") to be able to install them via YaST.
Please note that I maintain these package in my spare time and that I currently cannot test them as I don't find the time... Thus, the packages are not official SUSE LINUX packages.
The reason for not delivering hamradio packages on the media kit is that most of the programs are quite old. It becomes more and more difficult to even be able to build them. Additionally, many of them won't build on any other system architecture than PC (i386), causing additional load on me and our autobuild team. And finally, the potential costs to react fast and correctly in case of security issues with these packages are too high to justify further support for the packages.
Maintaining the packages privately has at least one advantage for me: I have to fix and build the packages only once within the last weeks of the beta phase of the product, opposed to (in some cases) weekly after someone has checked in a new gcc, glibc, QT or KDE update.
73, Joerg, Thanks for the info. Many thanks for building the packages, I understand
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 08:42, Joerg Reuter wrote: they are not official. I don't use them all but they are nice to have and as you say they are old (still work, AX.25 protocol hasn't changed in awhile). Some programs have newer versions out there but SUSE RPMs for them are hard to find, XASTIR is one. I am still fairly new at Linux and someday hope to learn how to build RPMs from the tarballs. Jim WA3UQD
I tried the url below [ ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/ham/9.3-i386] and couldn't get in so lopped off the last bit and go in .. then clicked on the folder and found nothing inside ??? 73, Dick ZS6RO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hartzell" <wa3uqd@nauticom.net> To: "Joerg Reuter" <jreuter@suse.de> Cc: <suse-ham-e@suse.com> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [suse-ham-e] ham radio files missing
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 01:07:03PM -0400, Jim Hartzell wrote:
I was just looking at the package list for SUSE 9.3 PRO on Novell's web site. I cannot find the "Ham radio" packages
As Thomas wrote, you can find them on
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/ham/9.3-i386
or on any SUSE LINUX mirror that carries the projects folder. You can simply add the directory as a YaST installation source ("yast inst_source") to be able to install them via YaST.
Please note that I maintain these package in my spare time and that I currently cannot test them as I don't find the time... Thus, the packages are not official SUSE LINUX packages.
The reason for not delivering hamradio packages on the media kit is that most of the programs are quite old. It becomes more and more difficult to even be able to build them. Additionally, many of them won't build on any other system architecture than PC (i386), causing additional load on me and our autobuild team. And finally, the potential costs to react fast and correctly in case of security issues with these packages are too high to justify further support for the packages.
Maintaining the packages privately has at least one advantage for me: I have to fix and build the packages only once within the last weeks of the beta phase of the product, opposed to (in some cases) weekly after someone has checked in a new gcc, glibc, QT or KDE update.
73, Joerg, Thanks for the info. Many thanks for building the packages, I understand
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 08:42, Joerg Reuter wrote: they are not official. I don't use them all but they are nice to have and as you say they are old (still work, AX.25 protocol hasn't changed in awhile). Some programs have newer versions out there but SUSE RPMs for them are hard to find, XASTIR is one. I am still fairly new at Linux and someday hope to learn how to build RPMs from the tarballs.
Jim WA3UQD
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On Monday 18 April 2005 16:30, Dick wrote:
I tried the url below [ ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/ham/9.3-i386] and couldn't get in so lopped off the last bit and go in .. then clicked on the folder and found nothing inside ???
Look at this: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/ham/9.3-i386/suse/i586 35 files making 5.4MB total! -- Thomas Gehler Linuxpartner GmbH Weinheimer Str. 1a D-69198 Schriesheim fon: +49 6203 600 7510 fax: +49 6203 600 7514 http://www.linuxpartner.de mailto:gehler@linuxpartner.de
On Monday 18 April 2005 16:30, Dick wrote:
I tried the url below [ ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/ham/9.3-i386] and couldn't get in so lopped off the last bit and go in .. then clicked on
Aha !! .. I clicked and saw ,or is it I saw and conquered ... <whatever> ... Thanks Thomas, that URL works for me too ... 73, Dick ZS6RO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Gehler" <gehler@linuxpartner.de> To: <suse-ham-e@suse.com> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [suse-ham-e] ham radio files missing the
folder and found nothing inside ???
Look at this:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/ham/9.3-i386/suse/i586
35 files making 5.4MB total!
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On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 10:03:34AM -0400, Jim Hartzell wrote:
Some programs have newer versions out there but SUSE RPMs for them are hard to find, XASTIR is one.
Hmm, IIRC Xastir has a licence issue... Ah, yes, found it. rotated.c states: /* xvertext 5.0, Copyright (c) 1993 Alan Richardson (mppa3@uk.ac.sussex.syma) * * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its * documentation for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted, provided * that the above copyright notice appear in all copies and that both the * copyright notice and this permission notice appear in supporting * documentation. All work developed as a consequence of the use of * this program should duly acknowledge such use. No representations are * made about the suitability of this software for any purpose. It is * provided "as is" without express or implied warranty. */ IMHO (however, IANAL) this is is incompatible to the GPL ("without fee" collides with section 6 of the GPL: "You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein.") Thus I feel reluctant to package Xastir, despite Xastir being an excellent program... 73, -- Joerg Reuter DL1BKE http://yaina.de/jreuter And I make my way to where the warm scent of soil fills the evening air. Everything is waiting quietly out there.... (Anne Clark)
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