Re: [opensuse-goblin] Moblin, Goblin & openSUSE
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:28:56 +0100 Michael Meeks wrote:
On Sun, 2009-09-06 at 23:07 +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
For practical use I think of getting Moblin as an option on the 'change session switch' on the gdm login panel, in addition to the current installed desktop options Gnome/KDE/XFCE.
Sure - it should be an option like that already, if you install the Moblin:UI one-click under 11.1 - at least, that is the intention :-)
Well, I gave the OBS Goblin_1-click installation a try on my 11.1 x86_64 mobile workstation, but ran into a bunch of dependice errors. Comments and suggestions to my following user experience below are welcome: As I initially had several community repos and packages installed on 11.1, I did a fresh 11.1 reinstallation and complete online update. But still the Goblin 1-click installation listed a bunch of dependice errors. Althoug I'm not currently on this workstation, among other I noticed: Packages at first not found - libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit) needed by mutter-moblin - this one looked to be installed yet - moblin-web-browser needs libcluttermozembed.so.0 - mutter-moblin-0.32 needs libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 I tried some manual selections and architechture upgrades, but managed only to get a partly installation Packages not installed - libgupnp-1_0-1 - libtelepathy-farsight Things I noticed after this 'partial Goblin installation': - an unexpected modified 'green velvet pattern' desktop background on the gdm login screen - logged into a standard gnome session and discovered some new icons for panel applets - I didn't expect that Goblin should change the standard gnome session - logged out and tried to change session to 'Moblin experience' - a bug I've experienced on openSUSE/SLED 11.x (don't know if it is reported) is that the first selection to another session doesn't work. Sometimes it logon to the previous session, this time it only brought back the gdm login screen. I had to change session two times before it worked. - however, I didn't notice any difference between this 'Moblin Experience' and the 'modified Gnome sesssion' tried first (I didn't explore details) - new theme for Firefox (maybe also in the modified gnome session) Rgds, Terje J.H -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+help@opensuse.org
Hi Terje, 2009/9/8 Terje J. Hanssen <nteknikk@monet.no>:
Well, I gave the OBS Goblin_1-click installation a try on my 11.1 x86_64 mobile workstation, but ran into a bunch of dependice errors.
Comments and suggestions to my following user experience below are welcome:
As I initially had several community repos and packages installed on 11.1, I did a fresh 11.1 reinstallation and complete online update. But still the Goblin 1-click installation listed a bunch of dependice errors.
Althoug I'm not currently on this workstation, among other I noticed:
Packages at first not found - libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit) needed by mutter-moblin - this one looked to be installed yet - moblin-web-browser needs libcluttermozembed.so.0 - mutter-moblin-0.32 needs libmissioncontrol-client.so.0
I tried some manual selections and architechture upgrades, but managed only to get a partly installation Packages not installed - libgupnp-1_0-1 - libtelepathy-farsight
Things I noticed after this 'partial Goblin installation': - an unexpected modified 'green velvet pattern' desktop background on the gdm login screen - logged into a standard gnome session and discovered some new icons for panel applets - I didn't expect that Goblin should change the standard gnome session - logged out and tried to change session to 'Moblin experience' - a bug I've experienced on openSUSE/SLED 11.x (don't know if it is reported) is that the first selection to another session doesn't work. Sometimes it logon to the previous session, this time it only brought back the gdm login screen. I had to change session two times before it worked. - however, I didn't notice any difference between this 'Moblin Experience' and the 'modified Gnome sesssion' tried first (I didn't explore details) - new theme for Firefox (maybe also in the modified gnome session)
Rgds, Terje J.H
Your 1Click pain is completely my fault - sorry about that :( If you try it again it should work now, many thanks to Shu Chen for helping with this. There is an issue it seems with both logging into the Moblin UX and also using apps in that session, in so much as they are tied to having a username called 'linux' with an accessible /home/linux. This may well cause issues to users that have multi user systems - whether you can symlink /home/linux to /home/$USER I'm not sure. Regards, Andy -- Andrew Wafaa, openSUSE Member: FunkyPenguin openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+help@opensuse.org
Hi Andy, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
Hi Terje,
2009/9/8 Terje J. Hanssen<nteknikk@monet.no>:
Well, I gave the OBS Goblin_1-click installation a try on my 11.1 x86_64 mobile workstation, but ran into a bunch of dependice errors.
Comments and suggestions to my following user experience below are welcome:
As I initially had several community repos and packages installed on 11.1, I did a fresh 11.1 reinstallation and complete online update. But still the Goblin 1-click installation listed a bunch of dependice errors.
Althoug I'm not currently on this workstation, among other I noticed:
Packages at first not found - libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit) needed by mutter-moblin - this one looked to be installed yet - moblin-web-browser needs libcluttermozembed.so.0 - mutter-moblin-0.32 needs libmissioncontrol-client.so.0
I tried some manual selections and architechture upgrades, but managed only to get a partly installation Packages not installed - libgupnp-1_0-1 - libtelepathy-farsight
Things I noticed after this 'partial Goblin installation': - an unexpected modified 'green velvet pattern' desktop background on the gdm login screen - logged into a standard gnome session and discovered some new icons for panel applets - I didn't expect that Goblin should change the standard gnome session - logged out and tried to change session to 'Moblin experience' - a bug I've experienced on openSUSE/SLED 11.x (don't know if it is reported) is that the first selection to another session doesn't work. Sometimes it logon to the previous session, this time it only brought back the gdm login screen. I had to change session two times before it worked. - however, I didn't notice any difference between this 'Moblin Experience' and the 'modified Gnome sesssion' tried first (I didn't explore details) - new theme for Firefox (maybe also in the modified gnome session)
Rgds, Terje J.H
Your 1Click pain is completely my fault - sorry about that :( If you try it again it should work now, many thanks to Shu Chen for helping with this.
There is an issue it seems with both logging into the Moblin UX and also using apps in that session, in so much as they are tied to having a username called 'linux' with an accessible /home/linux. This may well cause issues to users that have multi user systems - whether you can symlink /home/linux to /home/$USER I'm not sure.
Regards,
Andy
Sorry, but still the list of dependice conflicts/manual selection popup, when I try the 1-click goblin installation. First I did a clean-down of my 11.1 x86_64 system, using an update installation from the 11.1 DVD. Here is the list of repos and priorities that is set up by the 1-click goblin installation. Is something wrong here, maybe other priorities can avoid the list: 20 openSUSE-11.1-Update 99 Moblin:Base 99 Moblin:Base:Updates 99 Moblin:UI 99 openSUSE 11.1-0 100 repo-non-oss Terje -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 08:23:07PM +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
Hi Andy,
Andrew Wafaa wrote:
Hi Terje,
2009/9/8 Terje J. Hanssen<nteknikk@monet.no>:
Well, I gave the OBS Goblin_1-click installation a try on my 11.1 x86_64 mobile workstation, but ran into a bunch of dependice errors.
Comments and suggestions to my following user experience below are welcome:
As I initially had several community repos and packages installed on 11.1, I did a fresh 11.1 reinstallation and complete online update. But still the Goblin 1-click installation listed a bunch of dependice errors.
Althoug I'm not currently on this workstation, among other I noticed:
Packages at first not found - libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit) needed by mutter-moblin - this one looked to be installed yet - moblin-web-browser needs libcluttermozembed.so.0 - mutter-moblin-0.32 needs libmissioncontrol-client.so.0
I tried some manual selections and architechture upgrades, but managed only to get a partly installation Packages not installed - libgupnp-1_0-1 - libtelepathy-farsight
Things I noticed after this 'partial Goblin installation': - an unexpected modified 'green velvet pattern' desktop background on the gdm login screen - logged into a standard gnome session and discovered some new icons for panel applets - I didn't expect that Goblin should change the standard gnome session - logged out and tried to change session to 'Moblin experience' - a bug I've experienced on openSUSE/SLED 11.x (don't know if it is reported) is that the first selection to another session doesn't work. Sometimes it logon to the previous session, this time it only brought back the gdm login screen. I had to change session two times before it worked. - however, I didn't notice any difference between this 'Moblin Experience' and the 'modified Gnome sesssion' tried first (I didn't explore details) - new theme for Firefox (maybe also in the modified gnome session)
Rgds, Terje J.H
Your 1Click pain is completely my fault - sorry about that :( If you try it again it should work now, many thanks to Shu Chen for helping with this.
There is an issue it seems with both logging into the Moblin UX and also using apps in that session, in so much as they are tied to having a username called 'linux' with an accessible /home/linux. This may well cause issues to users that have multi user systems - whether you can symlink /home/linux to /home/$USER I'm not sure.
Regards,
Andy
Sorry, but still the list of dependice conflicts/manual selection popup, when I try the 1-click goblin installation. First I did a clean-down of my 11.1 x86_64 system, using an update installation from the 11.1 DVD.
Here is the list of repos and priorities that is set up by the 1-click goblin installation. Is something wrong here, maybe other priorities can avoid the list:
20 openSUSE-11.1-Update 99 Moblin:Base 99 Moblin:Base:Updates 99 Moblin:UI
Hm, shouldn't these be Moblin:Factory instead of :Base and :UI? :Base and :UI are much more experimental. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+help@opensuse.org
Greg, Greg KH wrote:
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 08:23:07PM +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
Sorry, but still the list of dependice conflicts/manual selection popup, when I try the 1-click goblin installation. First I did a clean-down of my 11.1 x86_64 system, using an update installation from the 11.1 DVD.
Here is the list of repos and priorities that is set up by the 1-click goblin installation. Is something wrong here, maybe other priorities can avoid the list:
20 openSUSE-11.1-Update 99 Moblin:Base 99 Moblin:Base:Updates 99 Moblin:UI
Hm, shouldn't these be Moblin:Factory instead of :Base and :UI? :Base and :UI are much more experimental.
thanks,
greg k-h
Some 'options': As I'm also testing 11.2M6 i586 and x86_64, I wonder if Goblin is possible to add from Factory on these? Possibly guidelines? I would also be interested to try the 'native' openSUSE Moblin iso as a Xen desktop guest (DomU) using 11.2 as desktop host OS (Dom0)? This to avoid wiping out other disk partitions on a multboot installation. (i.e CentOS, Ubuntu and Mandriva desktops each has been possible to install and test as Xen guests using 11.1 as desktop host OS) And third, is Moblin/Goblin expected be included already on the upcoming 11.2 M7 iso? Terje -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:01:17PM +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
Greg,
Greg KH wrote:
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 08:23:07PM +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
Sorry, but still the list of dependice conflicts/manual selection popup, when I try the 1-click goblin installation. First I did a clean-down of my 11.1 x86_64 system, using an update installation from the 11.1 DVD.
Here is the list of repos and priorities that is set up by the 1-click goblin installation. Is something wrong here, maybe other priorities can avoid the list:
20 openSUSE-11.1-Update 99 Moblin:Base 99 Moblin:Base:Updates 99 Moblin:UI
Hm, shouldn't these be Moblin:Factory instead of :Base and :UI? :Base and :UI are much more experimental.
thanks,
greg k-h
Some 'options':
As I'm also testing 11.2M6 i586 and x86_64, I wonder if Goblin is possible to add from Factory on these? Possibly guidelines?
I do not know, sorry.
I would also be interested to try the 'native' openSUSE Moblin iso as a Xen desktop guest (DomU) using 11.2 as desktop host OS (Dom0)? This to avoid wiping out other disk partitions on a multboot installation. (i.e CentOS, Ubuntu and Mandriva desktops each has been possible to install and test as Xen guests using 11.1 as desktop host OS)
Moblin needs accelerated graphics to work properly, good luck doing that in a Xen instance :(
And third, is Moblin/Goblin expected be included already on the upcoming 11.2 M7 iso?
As M7 is already released, that would be difficult :) At this time, we do not have anything merged with the 11.2 releases, but note the constant change that is happening daily in the Moblin:Factory tree to see that we are doing lots of work here... thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+help@opensuse.org
Greg KH wrote:
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:01:17PM +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
Some 'options':
As I'm also testing 11.2M6 i586 and x86_64, I wonder if Goblin is possible to add from Factory on these? Possibly guidelines?
I do not know, sorry.
I would also be interested to try the 'native' openSUSE Moblin iso as a Xen desktop guest (DomU) using 11.2 as desktop host OS (Dom0)? This to avoid wiping out other disk partitions on a multboot installation. (i.e CentOS, Ubuntu and Mandriva desktops each has been possible to install and test as Xen guests using 11.1 as desktop host OS)
Moblin needs accelerated graphics to work properly, good luck doing that in a Xen instance :(
Oh, it's a gpu demanding gui
And third, is Moblin/Goblin expected be included already on the upcoming 11.2 M7 iso?
As M7 is already released, that would be difficult :)
Sept 10, according to the roadmap :)
At this time, we do not have anything merged with the 11.2 releases, but note the constant change that is happening daily in the Moblin:Factory tree to see that we are doing lots of work here...
thanks,
greg k-h
Terje -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+help@opensuse.org
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