On 5 May 2011 15:18, Andrew Wafaa wrote:

On 5 May 2011 18:19, Pavol Rusnak wrote:

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Hi all!

You might've read my blogpost[1] about adding YaST menuitem to GNOME 3 Status menu. During today's meeting we agreed that we want to integrate YaST and we'd like to discuss what is the best option.

The options are:

a) add YaST menuitem to Status menu   [+] The easiest way, because it is already implemented[1]   [-] Beginner user can be confused about items "System Settings" and       "YaST Control Center". We can change them to "Desktop Settings"       and "Administrator Settings" or something similar, but that       would diverge from upstream which is not very nice.

b) add YaST icon to System Settings (new icon under System Category)   [+] Easy to implement as well   [-] Requires one extra click when compared to option a)

c) add YaST modules icons to System Settings   [-] Probably ugly and pollutes System Settings with 100s new icons   [-] Might require root password after clicking on each item

d) create extra tab YaST in GNOME Shell       Original suggestion by Nelson[2]   [+] Nice openSUSE differentiation point   [-] Might require root password after clicking on each item   [-] More programming work when compared to options a), b), c)

e) create extra YaST category in Applications tab in GNOME Shell   [-] Might be confusing   [-] Might require root password after clicking on each item

Did I forgot any option? Do you have thoughts, ideas, preferences?

PS: This is not about porting yast-gtk from GTK2 to GTK3, this should    happen anyway so YaST itself would look similar to g-c-c.

[1] http://stick.gk2.sk/blog/2011/05/adding-yast-menuitem-to-gnome-3-status-menu... [2] http://lizards.opensuse.org/2011/04/30/mockup-gnome3-and-yast/

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My personal preference is for either option A or B, with a leaning towards option A.

It would have been better if upstream had used "Desktop Settings", but I think that is something we can live with. We need to educate people to the difference of the two items :-)

Regards,

Andy

P.S. Sorry for missing the meeting.

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Option B gets my vote. It's cleaner and the Yast2 link sits in an appropriate place. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

On 5 May 2011 17:00, Nelson Marques wrote:

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a) add YaST menuitem to Status menu   [+] The easiest way, because it is already implemented[1]   [-] Beginner user can be confused about items "System Settings" and       "YaST Control Center". We can change them to "Desktop Settings"       and "Administrator Settings" or something similar, but that       would diverge from upstream which is not very nice.

This is one of my favourite. I don't really subscribe the 'beginner' thingie, it has always been like that previously on the SLAB menu. Most people will know that YaST is a feature of openSUSE that enables interaction with system management. I would consider keeping this differentiation factor alive.

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b) add YaST icon to System Settings (new icon under System Category)   [+] Easy to implement as well   [-] Requires one extra click when compared to option a)

The only flaw I see here is that opening a panel from another panel is probably not a good choice, and to be honest, if the previous (a) would bring confusion to newcomers, then this one is probably more confusion for everyone.

But this would be make things "cleaner". The YaST icon would be hidden away under System Settings (which I think is an appropriate place to put it).

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c) add YaST modules icons to System Settings   [-] Probably ugly and pollutes System Settings with 100s new icons   [-] Might require root password after clicking on each item

Totally agree.

Same here :)

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d) create extra tab YaST in GNOME Shell       Original suggestion by Nelson[2]   [+] Nice openSUSE differentiation point   [-] Might require root password after clicking on each item   [-] More programming work when compared to options a), b), c)

This is probably the easier one to get upstreamer, as any distribution will most likely benefit for it, while for us is YaST for Fedora or Ubuntu would be something else. It's less clicks to reach, it's more visually atractive, if bumps up differentiation and I would expect that YaST is probably known by everyone around. You are opening directly the configuration module directly... it will most likely also ask for password if you open it through a panel.

This would be awesome in tablets :)

The problem with this is that this opens up the field to having other programs have their own tabs with Gnome-Shell.

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e) create extra YaST category in Applications tab in GNOME Shell   [-] Might be confusing   [-] Might require root password after clicking on each item

Looks also interesting. I still disagree that YaST will be confusing as it's most likely the most well known feature of openSUSE, it's pretty much like a calling card :)

I would strongly consider on short term: A and E; On a medium/long term: I would definatly go for a A + D combo.

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