Why has WiFi network management regressed so badly in GNOME? Specifically, it doesn't carry it anymore. Instead you're directed to YaST. That's two passwords to connect, root and the network. Management in YaST is very poor anyway, in that it doesn't remember connections. It's getting very annoying to me and to my hosts as I have to manually connect every time I return to the place I'm boarding this month. I don't want to use KDE just for this, but every other device has a simple process for connecting and only one time. Jon Cosby
On 2022-11-22 10:02, Jon Cosby wrote:
Why has WiFi network management regressed so badly in GNOME? Specifically, it doesn't carry it anymore. Instead you're directed to YaST. That's two passwords to connect, root and the network. Management in YaST is very poor anyway, in that it doesn't remember connections. It's getting very annoying to me and to my hosts as I have to manually connect every time I return to the place I'm boarding this month. I don't want to use KDE just for this, but every other device has a simple process for connecting and only one time.
I am using XFCE, which has similarities to Gnome, and I can setup the network just fine, with NetworkManager. But you have to tell YaST that you are going to use Network Manager. In a laptop, should have happened on install day. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2022-11-22 11:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2022-11-22 10:02, Jon Cosby wrote:
Why has WiFi network management regressed so badly in GNOME? Specifically, it doesn't carry it anymore. Instead you're directed to YaST. That's two passwords to connect, root and the network. Management in YaST is very poor anyway, in that it doesn't remember connections. It's getting very annoying to me and to my hosts as I have to manually connect every time I return to the place I'm boarding this month. I don't want to use KDE just for this, but every other device has a simple process for connecting and only one time.
I am using XFCE, which has similarities to Gnome, and I can setup the network just fine, with NetworkManager.
But you have to tell YaST that you are going to use Network Manager. In a laptop, should have happened on install day.
I vaguely remember something about that on the installation. How do you switch to NetworkManager afterward? Jon
On 2022-11-23 05:56, Jon Cosby wrote:
On 2022-11-22 11:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2022-11-22 10:02, Jon Cosby wrote:
Why has WiFi network management regressed so badly in GNOME? Specifically, it doesn't carry it anymore. Instead you're directed to YaST. That's two passwords to connect, root and the network. Management in YaST is very poor anyway, in that it doesn't remember connections. It's getting very annoying to me and to my hosts as I have to manually connect every time I return to the place I'm boarding this month. I don't want to use KDE just for this, but every other device has a simple process for connecting and only one time.
I am using XFCE, which has similarities to Gnome, and I can setup the network just fine, with NetworkManager.
But you have to tell YaST that you are going to use Network Manager. In a laptop, should have happened on install day.
I vaguely remember something about that on the installation. How do you switch to NetworkManager afterward?
In YaST. System / Network Settings -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Tue, 2022-11-22 at 01:02 -0800, Jon Cosby wrote:
Why has WiFi network management regressed so badly in GNOME? Specifically, it doesn't carry it anymore. Instead you're directed to YaST.
Uh, it hasn't. May be you have "wicked" as your network management instead of Network Manager (on Tumbleweed): YaST Network -> Global Options -> Network Setup method -> select Network Manager from the drop-down. I am just going on a hunch here. Your post is rather thread-bare on specifics, making no mention of whether this is on Leap or Tumbleweed and what version of either, your GNOME version, or any other details. Anywho, hope that helps.
On 2022-11-22 22:35, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
On Tue, 2022-11-22 at 01:02 -0800, Jon Cosby wrote:
Why has WiFi network management regressed so badly in GNOME? Specifically, it doesn't carry it anymore. Instead you're directed to YaST.
Uh, it hasn't. May be you have "wicked" as your network management instead of Network Manager (on Tumbleweed):
YaST Network -> Global Options -> Network Setup method -> select Network Manager from the drop-down.
I am just going on a hunch here. Your post is rather thread-bare on specifics, making no mention of whether this is on Leap or Tumbleweed and what version of either, your GNOME version, or any other details.
Anywho, hope that helps.
That helps, but I'm not getting the nm-applet icon in my systray. 'ps -A' doesn't find 'nm-applet' in running processes. Starting it from the terminal has no effect. I'm running Leap 15.4. Installed it on my laptop just before leaving town for a month. Thanks, Jon Cosby
* Jon Cosby <lists@seablues.net> [11-24-22 07:37]:
On 2022-11-22 22:35, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
On Tue, 2022-11-22 at 01:02 -0800, Jon Cosby wrote:
Why has WiFi network management regressed so badly in GNOME? Specifically, it doesn't carry it anymore. Instead you're directed to YaST.
Uh, it hasn't. May be you have "wicked" as your network management instead of Network Manager (on Tumbleweed):
YaST Network -> Global Options -> Network Setup method -> select Network Manager from the drop-down.
I am just going on a hunch here. Your post is rather thread-bare on specifics, making no mention of whether this is on Leap or Tumbleweed and what version of either, your GNOME version, or any other details.
Anywho, hope that helps.
That helps, but I'm not getting the nm-applet icon in my systray. 'ps -A' doesn't find 'nm-applet' in running processes. Starting it from the terminal has no effect. I'm running Leap 15.4. Installed it on my laptop just before leaving town for a month. Thanks,
do you have it installed? does it fail in terminal? are you using NetworkManager or Wicked? did you try in terminal, nmcli -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On 2022-11-24 06:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Jon Cosby <lists@seablues.net> [11-24-22 07:37]:
On 2022-11-22 22:35, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
On Tue, 2022-11-22 at 01:02 -0800, Jon Cosby wrote:
Why has WiFi network management regressed so badly in GNOME? Specifically, it doesn't carry it anymore. Instead you're directed to YaST.
Uh, it hasn't. May be you have "wicked" as your network management instead of Network Manager (on Tumbleweed):
YaST Network -> Global Options -> Network Setup method -> select Network Manager from the drop-down.
I am just going on a hunch here. Your post is rather thread-bare on specifics, making no mention of whether this is on Leap or Tumbleweed and what version of either, your GNOME version, or any other details.
Anywho, hope that helps.
That helps, but I'm not getting the nm-applet icon in my systray. 'ps -A' doesn't find 'nm-applet' in running processes. Starting it from the terminal has no effect. I'm running Leap 15.4. Installed it on my laptop just before leaving town for a month. Thanks,
do you have it installed? does it fail in terminal? are you using NetworkManager or Wicked? did you try in terminal, nmcli
Yes, I installed it after switching over to NM. Running it from the terminal nothing happens, no icon or interface. It just hangs until I hit CTRL+Z. I'll try the cli. Would like to have the applet working, though. Thanks. Jon Cosby
* Jon Cosby <lists@seablues.net> [11-24-22 19:09]:
On 2022-11-24 06:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Jon Cosby <lists@seablues.net> [11-24-22 07:37]:
On 2022-11-22 22:35, Atri Bhattacharya wrote:
On Tue, 2022-11-22 at 01:02 -0800, Jon Cosby wrote:
Why has WiFi network management regressed so badly in GNOME? Specifically, it doesn't carry it anymore. Instead you're directed to YaST.
Uh, it hasn't. May be you have "wicked" as your network management instead of Network Manager (on Tumbleweed):
YaST Network -> Global Options -> Network Setup method -> select Network Manager from the drop-down.
I am just going on a hunch here. Your post is rather thread-bare on specifics, making no mention of whether this is on Leap or Tumbleweed and what version of either, your GNOME version, or any other details.
Anywho, hope that helps.
That helps, but I'm not getting the nm-applet icon in my systray. 'ps -A' doesn't find 'nm-applet' in running processes. Starting it from the terminal has no effect. I'm running Leap 15.4. Installed it on my laptop just before leaving town for a month. Thanks,
do you have it installed? does it fail in terminal? are you using NetworkManager or Wicked? did you try in terminal, nmcli
Yes, I installed it after switching over to NM. Running it from the terminal nothing happens, no icon or interface. It just hangs until I hit CTRL+Z. I'll try the cli. Would like to have the applet working, though. Thanks.
I use both but on KDE and have no problem getting the applet on the taskbar, but KDE does it. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
Nowadays, GNOME hides the system tray icons by default [1], and you need a gnome-shell-extension to have it [2]. [1] https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/ [2] https://extensions.gnome.org/
How to unsubscribe from this mailing list !? I am sick of it.
Le 25 nov. 2022 à 04:40, Luciano Santos <luc14n0@opensuse.org> a écrit :
Nowadays, GNOME hides the system tray icons by default [1], and you need a gnome-shell-extension to have it [2].
[1] https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/ [2] https://extensions.gnome.org/
Send email to gnome-leave@lists.opensuse.org. Be sure to use the same email address you originally subscribed with. Michael. On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 1:24 AM Jean-Christophe Baptiste <jc@phocean.net> wrote:
How to unsubscribe from this mailing list !? I am sick of it.
Le 25 nov. 2022 à 04:40, Luciano Santos <luc14n0@opensuse.org> a écrit :
Nowadays, GNOME hides the system tray icons by default [1], and you need a gnome-shell-extension to have it [2].
[1] https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/ [2] https://extensions.gnome.org/
-- Ma patrie, c'est la langue anglaise.
On Thu, 2022-11-24 at 04:34 -0800, Jon Cosby wrote:
That helps, but I'm not getting the nm-applet icon in my systray. 'ps -A' doesn't find 'nm-applet' in running processes.
There hasn't been a 'systray' or nm-applet on GNOME for something like a decade now. If you are using Network Manager, your WiFi connection status should show up in the right corner on the top bar, and gnome-control-center -> WiFi Settings should show available connections and configurations. -- Atri
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