On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 18:21 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

Hi,

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I'm leaning towards using gnome-applications.menu and switching

soon.

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It's just a single line in /usr/bin/gnome:

export XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome-

I notice that with this setting of the menu, all sub-categorisation of the applications in menu-bar and traditional main-menu are gone. Is this intentional? Of course the default gnome-main-menu [application-browser] does not show sub-categories. -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

-----Original Message----- From: Atri Bhattacharya [mailto:badshah400@aim.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:59 AM To: opensuse-gnome@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-gnome] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-packaging] Shared applications.menu... or not

On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 18:21 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Hi,

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I'm leaning towards using gnome-applications.menu and switching

soon.

...

It's just a single line in /usr/bin/gnome:

export XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome-

I notice that with this setting of the menu, all sub-categorisation of the applications in menu-bar and traditional main-menu are gone. Is this intentional? Of course the default gnome-main-menu [application-browser] does not show sub-categories. -- Atri

Guys, i´d like to propose adding "YaST" and "Control Center" items to the "System" in menu-bar and traditional main-menu. What do you think? -- S pozdravom / Best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Dňa 15.6.2010 13:59, Vincent Untz wrote / napísal(a):

Le mardi 15 juin 2010, à 13:40 +0200, Rastislav Krupanský a écrit :

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Guys, i´d like to propose adding "YaST" and "Control Center" items to the "System" in menu-bar and traditional main-menu. What do you think?

Yast is already there (in the System submenu).

As for the control center, it's not there by design since it would show the same content as the menu (it was discussed upstream a few years ago). That being said, you can enable it by just editing the menu (I see it's not at the right place at the moment, let me fix this :-))

Vincent

Just a quick test with factory build, 0673. I added new item "Control Center" in the "Preferences" via edit "Main menu" and unchecked Hardware, Look and feel, Personal and System [1]. Control Center is not started correctly. It just starts a window with "Other" item with icon Control Center.[2]. If i check Hardware, Look and feel, Personal and System, then is Control Center started correctly. Do you mean YaST was always there, or have you added there? Because it´s missing in the "System", as you can see it on the screenshot [2]. Or do you mean "Application" -> "System". I´m not sure we are talking about the same thing. [1] http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5396/screenshotmainmenu.png [2] http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5962/screenshotpl.png -- S pozdravom / Best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

-----Original Message----- From: Vincent Untz [mailto:vuntz@opensuse.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:30 AM To: opensuse-gnome@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-gnome] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-packaging] Shared applications.menu... or not

Le mardi 15 juin 2010, à 22:13 +0200, Rastislav Krupanský a écrit :

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I added new item "Control Center" in the "Preferences" via edit "Main menu" and unchecked Hardware, Look and feel, Personal and System [1]. Control Center is not started correctly. It just starts a window with "Other" item with icon Control Center.[2]. If i check Hardware, Look and feel, Personal and System, then is Control Center started correctly.

Yeah, that's because the shell and the menus are showing the same thing. Hadn't thought of that. Hrm.

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Do you mean YaST was always there, or have you added there? Because it´s missing in the "System", as you can see it on the screenshot [2]. Or do you mean "Application" -> "System". I´m not sure we are talking about the same thing.

I'm talking about System->System, and it's been there for a few cycles already :-)

Vincent

Ok, i see you mean traditional gnome menu. Yes, YaST has been in System -> System for a few cycles already. But i mean menu-bar, which uses Application, Places and System. That´s on the screenshot [2]. I think YaST could be in System also by default, forasmuch as it´s system control center. -- S pozdravom / Best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

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From: Vincent Untz [mailto:vuntz@opensuse.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:42 AM To: opensuse-gnome@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-gnome] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-packaging] Shared applications.menu... or not

Le mercredi 16 juin 2010, à 07:32 +0200, Rastislav Krupanský a écrit :

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Ok, i see you mean traditional gnome menu. Yes, YaST has been in System -> System for a few cycles already. But i mean menu-bar, which uses Application, Places and System. That´s on the screenshot [2]. I think YaST could be in System also by default, forasmuch as it´s system control center.

I'm talking about the menu bar too: it's there in a submenu of System, not directly in System.

Vincent

Couldn´t it be directly in System? I think it´s a better place, becasue it´s is not just an usual application, but you can set all system. What do you think? -- S pozdravom / Best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Le jeudi 10 juin 2010, à 21:43 +0530, Atri Bhattacharya a écrit :

So everything looks okay right now, except that there are four items in a group called "Others" that might require fixing:-

1. Liferea [should be in the "Internet" category] 2. Install/Remove software [this can be hopefully just black-listed from the menu as it also appears in the menu itself as well as in the control-centre] 3. Linux 32-bit terminal 4. Manage Printing

Can you drag and drop those items in a terminal and tell me what files are they coming from? (and also which packages) Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Le lundi 14 juin 2010, à 16:45 +0530, Atri Bhattacharya a écrit :

On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 12:11 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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1. Liferea [should be in the "Internet" category] 2. Install/Remove software [this can be hopefully just black-listed from the menu as it also appears in the menu itself as well as in the control-centre] 3. Linux 32-bit terminal 4. Manage Printing

Can you drag and drop those items in a terminal and tell me what files are they coming from? (and also which packages)

Here is the location where they are coming from and the corresponding package-name:- 1. /usr/share/applications/liferea.desktop | liferea

This one I knew; fixed it already :-)

2. /usr/share/applications/package-manager.desktop | gnome-packagekit

It actually comes from libzypp (see rpm -q -f /usr/share/applications/package-manager.desktop). Okay, need to fix it.

3. /usr/share/applications/linux32.desktop | linux32

Can you look at the categories and potentially submit a fix? I've never used nor heard of this package...

4. /usr/share/applications/cups.desktop | cups

Weird, it doesn't appear in Other here. Anyway, I don't think we want to see this item in GNOME. I'll fix this. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 12:37 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

1) first, add an entry in linux32.changes to explain your change. You can do it with "osc vc". Just say something like "Add categories to linux32.desktop to have it appear at the right place in applications menus"

2) then, you can submit this package to Base:System. Make sure that everything is committed, and then, if you're in the right directory: osc sr -m "Add categories to linux32.desktop" Or if you're in another directory: osc sr -m "Add categories to linux32.desktop" home:badshah400:branches:Base:System linux32 Base:System

And that's all :-) Someone will review your changes and push them to Factory if they're okay.

OK. Thanks for such detailed help. created request id 41487 Hope that does it. -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 01:34 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

So at this point, it's too late for 11.3, IMHO: there's just one RC2, which should be the GM version if there's no major bug. Too bad.

Considering that it does improve the openSUSE menu categories in GNOME quite a lot, it would be very nice if you could reconsider this. The present menu has lots of duplicated entries that should only be visible in the control-centre, and this option helps remove such duplication. In case it is simply not possible to include this for 11.3, it would be nice to figure out a way of just having such items as "Appearance" and "Display" black-listed from appearing in the application-browser since they already appear in the control-centre. In my testing I have not encountered any unpleasant side-effects of this new menu organisation. Reference: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595912 [bug filed in April] Thanks. -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org