[opensuse-gnome] Tomboy by default?
Hello, In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default. I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do. Do a lot of people use it frequently enough to justify that it is added by default? Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:42 +1100, Magnus Boman wrote:
Hello,
In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default.
I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do.
Do a lot of people use it frequently enough to justify that it is added by default?
Cheers, Magnus
I use it frequently. Bryen
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On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 06:45 -0600, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:42 +1100, Magnus Boman wrote:
Hello,
In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default.
I use it frequently. Me too. TB is one of the things I show converts to Linux (or to Gnome) as soon as the new install boots. "See? Isn't this neat? Now you can get rid of all those silly post-it notes obscuring the edges of your monitor!"
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On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 06:45 -0600, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:42 +1100, Magnus Boman wrote:
Hello,
In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default.
I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do.
Do a lot of people use it frequently enough to justify that it is added by default?
Cheers, Magnus
I use it frequently.
As do I, but if we had data on how much it slows down startup of GNOME or boot time with automatic login enabled, then I'd be reasonable in removing it, provided that we couldn't fix Tomboy. -Gary -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Ok, looks like enough people use it so lets keep it... Cheers, Magnus On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 06:45 -0600, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:42 +1100, Magnus Boman wrote:
Hello,
In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default.
I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do.
Do a lot of people use it frequently enough to justify that it is added by default?
Cheers, Magnus
I use it frequently.
Bryen
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On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:42 +1100, Magnus Boman wrote:
Hello,
In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default.
I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do.
Do a lot of people use it frequently enough to justify that it is added by default?
Cheers, Magnus
I use it a lot. -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
I use it an awful lot. Indespensable tool. Am Sonntag, den 28.02.2010, 22:42 +1100 schrieb Magnus Boman:
Hello,
In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default.
I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do.
Do a lot of people use it frequently enough to justify that it is added by default?
Cheers, Magnus
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On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:42 +1100, Magnus Boman wrote:
Hello,
In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default.
I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do.
Do a lot of people use it frequently enough to justify that it is added by default?
Hi Magnus Well tomboy is for sure one of the most used apps in the desktop. In speed questions maybe gnote would be faster but what's the point of using it instead of tomboy ? imho none. Cheers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 16:13 +0000, Luis Medinas wrote:
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:42 +1100, Magnus Boman wrote:
Hello, In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default. I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do.> Do a lot of people use it frequently enough to justify that it is added by default?
It is trivial for someone to remove. And as someone who develops apps on Mono - I have a very hard time believing doing so make a noticeable difference unless the machine is either ancient or seriously deficient in some way. But I also know there is little no point in arguing with people who have convinced themselves it is Java/Mono that is making their Model T run like a .... Model T (and that from someone who also owns a Model T). Aside: Won't GNOME 3.0 change the toolbar metaphor? Perhaps it could be compiled AOT, although I still doubt anyone would notice the difference.
Well tomboy is for sure one of the most used apps in the desktop.
Ditto. Tomboy is fabulously useful.
In speed questions maybe gnote would be faster but what's the point of using it instead of tomboy ? imho none.
Agree. That would be replacing a well-maintained and feature-rich application with a poorly maintained application with many fewer features. -- openSUSE w/GNOME <http://www.opensuse.org/en/> Linux for human beings who need to get work done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Le lundi 01 mars 2010, à 06:05 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit :
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 16:13 +0000, Luis Medinas wrote:
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:42 +1100, Magnus Boman wrote:
Hello, In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default. I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do.> Do a lot of people use it frequently enough to justify that it is added by default?
It is trivial for someone to remove. And as someone who develops apps on Mono - I have a very hard time believing doing so make a noticeable difference unless the machine is either ancient or seriously deficient in some way. But I also know there is little no point in arguing with people who have convinced themselves it is Java/Mono that is making their Model T run like a .... Model T (and that from someone who also owns a Model T).
The problem here is really the login performance: having tons of things starting at the same time does slow the login down. There are various solutions: improve startup performance of apps that start during login, delay their startup, or not launch them at all during login. I honestly don't know if tomboy does make a difference during the login, and it'd be nice to have people bootchart openSUSE to see what's slow and what should be changed.
Aside: Won't GNOME 3.0 change the toolbar metaphor?
Yes, it will. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Organise survey... I couldn't write as you're going to argue about many points. -- Best regards, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://blog.jakubrusinek.pl/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 16:36 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
Organise survey...
I couldn't write as you're going to argue about many points.
I think you completely misunderstood my intentions. I was merely wondering if people are actually using it. Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 06:05 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 16:13 +0000, Luis Medinas wrote:
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:42 +1100, Magnus Boman wrote:
Hello, In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default. I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do.> Do a lot of people use it frequently enough to justify that it is added by default?
It is trivial for someone to remove. And as someone who develops apps on Mono - I have a very hard time believing doing so make a noticeable difference unless the machine is either ancient or seriously deficient in some way. But I also know there is little no point in arguing with people who have convinced themselves it is Java/Mono that is making their Model T run like a .... Model T (and that from someone who also owns a Model T).
You seem to believe that my question was an anti-mono crusade, which is not true at all. I have nothing against mono nor tomboy. I just wanted to know if it's worth starting tomboy by default.
Aside: Won't GNOME 3.0 change the toolbar metaphor?
Perhaps it could be compiled AOT, although I still doubt anyone would notice the difference.
Removing one app from automatically starting sure wont make a huge difference. We obviously need to do more, but the more apps we start by default, the longer it will take. My question was raised in my head after I did one of many re-installs and I found myself always removing this particular app as I don't use it.
Well tomboy is for sure one of the most used apps in the desktop.
Ditto. Tomboy is fabulously useful.
In speed questions maybe gnote would be faster but what's the point of using it instead of tomboy ? imho none.
Agree. That would be replacing a well-maintained and feature-rich application with a poorly maintained application with many fewer features.
Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:42 +1100, Magnus Boman wrote:
In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default.
I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do.
Do a lot of people use it frequently enough to justify that it is added by default?
I use it every day, for a wide variety of tasks. But I don't really care either, since I rarely see the default panel, and where I do see it (on test VMs), I have no use for Tomboy. -- Hans Petter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Hans Petter Jansson <hpj@novell.com> wrote:
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:42 +1100, Magnus Boman wrote:
In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default.
I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do.
Do a lot of people use it frequently enough to justify that it is added by default?
I use it every day, for a wide variety of tasks. But I don't really care either, since I rarely see the default panel, and where I do see it (on test VMs), I have no use for Tomboy.
When I use SUSE Studio to make GNOME appliances, I like to include some helpful "getting started" information in a Tomboy note that opens when the user logs in. So, funnily enough, even though I don't use the default panel on my desktop, I do actually use Tomboy as-is in appliances VMs all the time. :-) Sandy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On 2/28/2010 at 12:42, Magnus Boman <captain.magnus@gmail.com> wrote: Hello,
In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default.
I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do.
I did the same for a long time, but once I actually learnt to love it. After a while of usage it's such a nice tool. Much better than creating short TXT files with all the things to remember. Do we have any figures on how much it slows startup down? Are we talking useconds or minutes? Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Am 28.02.2010 12:42, schrieb Magnus Boman:
In the days of fast boot and all that, I was wondering if many people see the value of having tomboy added to the panel by default.
I, for one, always remove it from every new install I do.
Same here, I never use it and really don't see why I should and how it would make my life easier. Now that we're gradually replacing our old openSUSE 9.3 / KDE3 XDMCP-servers with brand-new openSUSE 11.2 / Gnome2 successors it would've meant manually removing the applet for every single user. Since, however, there's a long list of things that need to be done when creating a new users the Tomboy applet was but a minor annoyance. And now that we've started using Sabayon for applying a base profile to all new users it doesn't really matter at all anymore. Martin -- Rieke Computersysteme GmbH Hellerholz 5 D-82061 Neuried Email: martin@rhm.de HRB Muenchen 73617 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
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Adam Tauno Williams -
Atri Bhattacharya -
Bryen M. Yunashko -
Christian Jäger -
Dominique Leuenberger -
Gary Ekker -
Hans Petter Jansson -
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek -
Luis Medinas -
Magnus Boman -
Martin Jungowski -
N B Day -
Sandy Armstrong -
Vincent Untz