On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 12:56 -0600, Aaron Bockover wrote:

After some discussion on the #opensuse-gnome channel, I would like to followup and clarify some things regarding this decision.

1) Nautilus is still the default for burning data CDs and copying ISO images. Banshee is still the default for burning audio CDs. Brasero is available as an application that can be used to accomplish these tasks as well, if a user so desires. We will not change the defaults for 10.3, but may evaluate different defaults for the next release.

2) I have tested Brasero on five different sets of hardware, alongside GnomeBaker. On each set of hardware I tested audio CD burning, data CD burning, ISO burning, and CD duplication. Brasero was successful in all 20 operations. GnomeBaker on the other hand failed each time with the same result (regarding the cdrecord compatibility layer for wodim).

3) For any issues that may arise with Brasero, we will be able to actually work with the active maintainer of the application, benefit the upstream project, and can expect faster turnaround time for the issues due to the activity level of the project. With GnomeBaker all issues will have to be resolved and maintained at the distribution level with no upstream support, because there is no longer an upstream for GnomeBaker - it is a dead project.

4) If you have used Brasero on 10.2 and ran into negative results, please try the Brasero that will ship in 10.3 Beta 3 before casting doubt. A lot has gone into Brasero and the underlying wodim stack since 10.2.

Please do not hesitate to respond with further concerns or issues! We all want the best for GNOME in 10.3.

Cheers, Aaron

On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 10:19 -0600, Aaron Bockover wrote:

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Hello Everyone,

We have replaced GnomeBaker with Brasero [1] for 10.3 Beta 3. Here are a few of the most significant reasons for the sudden switch:

1) Brasero is maintained and actively developed; while it is still young, this is very important.

2) GnomeBaker is deprecated, unmaintained, and hasn't seen a commit in seven months [2] and a release in nearly a year [3].

3) Brasero, while slightly rough around the edges and could benefit from a little polish (but the same can be argued for GnomeBaker) works with the new wodim and related tools, which means it's actually possible to burn discs in Brasero.

4) Brasero has decent desktop integration, including support for Beagle, Totem playlists, libnotify, and solid GStreamer support.

We are urging anyone interested to give Brasero a thorough testing and report bugs on it ASAP for Beta 3 and beyond.

Thanks, Aaron

[1] http://gnome.org/projects/brasero [2] http://gnomebaker.cvs.sourceforge.net/gnomebaker/gnomebaker/ChangeLog?revision=1.112&view=markup [3] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=127397

Aaron and related decision makers, This sounds like a well thought out change in position, I had asked the question earlier "which one would the team be enhancing\supporting" and the answer was "" , I'm glad that the team will be enhancing and supporting Brasero. It shows a commitment to providing the best tools available on the Gnome desktop even if that means asserting some of the teams limited resources to the project. Please make sure that you continue to test for failures as mentioned earlier, 20 hardware types is a small number ;) . Good Luck and Thank you. -- James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District Newmarket,NH http://en.opensuse.org/Education "let's make a difference" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org