[opensuse-gnome] Why do you use openSUSE for GNOME?
Hi All, I am running GNOME on Fedora right now as I have recently become a big fan of the GNOME desktop. I am curious at giving GNOME a go with openSUSE. What would you say are the best reasons to use GNOME with openSUSE? Also it looks like from what I read the openSUSE GNOME team plans to have a repo for 12.2 users to upgrade to 3.6, does the team try to do that for all GNOME releases that fall outside of the openSUSE release schedule? -- Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, I'll tell you my oppinion as user. Personally I think Gnome Desktop Environment is more or less the same to all distros. I used Fedora for about a year. What I find interesting in openSUSE is the fact that I do everything with YaST. Take care, Stathis Στις 08/09/2012 09:53 μμ, ο/η Michael Dinon έγραψε:
Hi All,
I am running GNOME on Fedora right now as I have recently become a big fan of the GNOME desktop. I am curious at giving GNOME a go with openSUSE. What would you say are the best reasons to use GNOME with openSUSE? Also it looks like from what I read the openSUSE GNOME team plans to have a repo for 12.2 users to upgrade to 3.6, does the team try to do that for all GNOME releases that fall outside of the openSUSE release schedule?
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Hi Michael, On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Michael Dinon <mdinon@gmail.com> wrote:
I am running GNOME on Fedora right now as I have recently become a big fan of the GNOME desktop.
In 1996 I typed 'linux' into an Alta Vista search and chose Debian as my distro because it was the first hit. In a similar manner in 2011, a GNOME Documentation hackfest came to town, and in order to participate I needed GNOME 3 to function on my (then Ubuntu) laptop. The ppa install wasn't cooperating that week so I took along a downloaded copy of the GNOME 3 Live DVD, booted it, installed git using zypper and participated successfully. Shortly after that I installed openSUSE on a new ThinkPad. I later found out that the live DVD had been coined by Frederic Crozat, and I was able to get some hands-on help from him with a kernel/video driver issue at Desktop Summit in Berlin (where I also met some of the other openSUSE guys). Since then I've run openSUSE GNOME:Factory as my stable-ish GNOME development desktop, and dual-booted Mageia which sometimes has newer packages. (Fedora runs on my -- seldom-used -- desktop machine.) If I post a question here, Dominique has often already experienced, and solved, the issue. These days I'm (frantically) writing some 3.6 help pages, and eagerly await the landing of the contents of GNOME:Next in GNOME:Factory. Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Le samedi 08 septembre 2012, à 11:53 -0700, Michael Dinon a écrit :
Hi All,
I am running GNOME on Fedora right now as I have recently become a big fan of the GNOME desktop. I am curious at giving GNOME a go with openSUSE. What would you say are the best reasons to use GNOME with openSUSE? Also it looks like from what I read the openSUSE GNOME team plans to have a repo for 12.2 users to upgrade to 3.6, does the team try to do that for all GNOME releases that fall outside of the openSUSE release schedule?
Haven't replied to this earlier, sorry. I would say the advantages of openSUSE compared to Fedora is that we have a system that is usually more stable (in the development version, at least -- I hear rawhide is pretty wild) and that we nearly always backport new versions of GNOME to the latest stable version of openSUSE, which is pretty cool. If you only compare the GNOME integration: both Fedora and openSUSE are using a nearly-vanilla GNOME, so there's no big difference there. That being said, Fedora is a nice distro too :-) (I love that they're pushing the latest technologies, for instance -- that is part of what explains some of the rawhide issues) Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Vincent Untz <vuntz@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hi,
Le samedi 08 septembre 2012, à 11:53 -0700, Michael Dinon a écrit :
Hi All,
I am running GNOME on Fedora right now as I have recently become a big fan of the GNOME desktop. I am curious at giving GNOME a go with openSUSE. What would you say are the best reasons to use GNOME with openSUSE? Also it looks like from what I read the openSUSE GNOME team plans to have a repo for 12.2 users to upgrade to 3.6, does the team try to do that for all GNOME releases that fall outside of the openSUSE release schedule?
Haven't replied to this earlier, sorry.
I would say the advantages of openSUSE compared to Fedora is that we have a system that is usually more stable (in the development version, at least -- I hear rawhide is pretty wild) and that we nearly always backport new versions of GNOME to the latest stable version of openSUSE, which is pretty cool.
If you only compare the GNOME integration: both Fedora and openSUSE are using a nearly-vanilla GNOME, so there's no big difference there.
That being said, Fedora is a nice distro too :-) (I love that they're pushing the latest technologies, for instance -- that is part of what explains some of the rawhide issues)
Cheers,
Vincent
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Thank you for the reply. Back-porting major Gnome releases to the stable release when those release cycles don't match up is very exciting. Right now after bumping around different DE's I am finding Gnome to be the most exciting for me so getting the newest Gnome quickly is a key selling point. I don't use Rawhide, but I take it from your comment that Factory is more stable. Has newer Gnome releases in openSUSE typically been back-ported to stable quicker than being made available in Tumbleweed? As for vanilla Gnome I know in the past openSUSE would ship with the Slab menu and custom themes like sonar. Do you see the Gnome packagers for openSUSE sticking with vanilla/upstream or are there any plans to put a openSUSE-specific theme or customization on the desktop? -- Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
If you care for work in progress: Cinnamon for GNOME 3.4 -> X11:Cinnamon:GNOME34 MATE (based on GNOME2) -> X11:MATE And I'm also working on Unity, but I'm waiting for xorg-x11-proto to be updated to Protocol 6 to continue. Both of the above (cinnamon and mate) are pretty much BETA, but they work OK. Hopefully they will be ready for the next release :) NM Melhores cumprimentos, Nelson M. Marques ________________________________________ De: Michael Dinon [mdinon@gmail.com] Enviado: quarta-feira, 19 de Setembro de 2012 2:43 Para: opensuse-gnome@opensuse.org Assunto: Re: [opensuse-gnome] Why do you use openSUSE for GNOME? On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Vincent Untz <vuntz@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hi,
Le samedi 08 septembre 2012, à 11:53 -0700, Michael Dinon a écrit :
Hi All,
I am running GNOME on Fedora right now as I have recently become a big fan of the GNOME desktop. I am curious at giving GNOME a go with openSUSE. What would you say are the best reasons to use GNOME with openSUSE? Also it looks like from what I read the openSUSE GNOME team plans to have a repo for 12.2 users to upgrade to 3.6, does the team try to do that for all GNOME releases that fall outside of the openSUSE release schedule?
Haven't replied to this earlier, sorry.
I would say the advantages of openSUSE compared to Fedora is that we have a system that is usually more stable (in the development version, at least -- I hear rawhide is pretty wild) and that we nearly always backport new versions of GNOME to the latest stable version of openSUSE, which is pretty cool.
If you only compare the GNOME integration: both Fedora and openSUSE are using a nearly-vanilla GNOME, so there's no big difference there.
That being said, Fedora is a nice distro too :-) (I love that they're pushing the latest technologies, for instance -- that is part of what explains some of the rawhide issues)
Cheers,
Vincent
-- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
Thank you for the reply. Back-porting major Gnome releases to the stable release when those release cycles don't match up is very exciting. Right now after bumping around different DE's I am finding Gnome to be the most exciting for me so getting the newest Gnome quickly is a key selling point. I don't use Rawhide, but I take it from your comment that Factory is more stable. Has newer Gnome releases in openSUSE typically been back-ported to stable quicker than being made available in Tumbleweed? As for vanilla Gnome I know in the past openSUSE would ship with the Slab menu and custom themes like sonar. Do you see the Gnome packagers for openSUSE sticking with vanilla/upstream or are there any plans to put a openSUSE-specific theme or customization on the desktop? -- Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
Le mardi 18 septembre 2012, à 18:43 -0700, Michael Dinon a écrit :
I don't use Rawhide, but I take it from your comment that Factory is more stable. Has newer Gnome releases in openSUSE typically been back-ported to stable quicker than being made available in Tumbleweed?
Yes, as it's actually easier for us to test with the stable release than with Tumbleweed. I actually don't know if new GNOME versions always end up in Tumbleweed.
As for vanilla Gnome I know in the past openSUSE would ship with the Slab menu and custom themes like sonar. Do you see the Gnome packagers for openSUSE sticking with vanilla/upstream or are there any plans to put a openSUSE-specific theme or customization on the desktop?
The GNOME team itself has no such plans. The artwork team in openSUSE might have plans like this. If this happens, we'll make it easy to go back to an upstream look and feel (it's only about changing a few settings, after all). Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2012-09-08 at 11:53 -0700, Michael Dinon wrote:
I am running GNOME on Fedora right now as I have recently become a big fan of the GNOME desktop. I am curious at giving GNOME a go with openSUSE. What would you say are the best reasons to use GNOME with openSUSE?
I don't understand the question; you'd use GNOME on openSUSE for the same reason you'd use it on any other Operating System - that GNOME3 is fast, stable, featureful, and productive.
Also it looks like from what I read the openSUSE GNOME team plans to have a repo for 12.2 users to upgrade to 3.6, does the team try to do that for all GNOME releases that fall outside of the openSUSE release schedule?
I don't know about "all". But 3.6 is a very significant release and the releases didn't line up very well so it certainly makes sense in this case. I'm an openSUSE 12.1 user currently and very much looking forward to 12.2 + GNOME 3.6.
participants (6)
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Adam Tauno Williams -
Michael Dinon -
Michael Hill -
Nelson Manuel Marques -
Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) -
Vincent Untz