FWIW, I've submitted a gnome-menus update this week-end (will reach factory soon, hopefully) that will help improve the experience for people not using gnome-main-menu: + instead of only having a yast item in the system menu of the menu bar, you'll have direct access to the capplets (with the same content as the one displayed in the gnome-control-center shell) + you can set the XDG_MENU_PREFIX environment variable to "gnome-" (without quotes) to use the upstream menu structure. IMHO, the upstream structure is better than the one we currently have, but that's obviously subjective -- and we'll have to fix the categories for quite a few desktop files so that they appear in the right place. It seems to me that it's not reasonable to set XDG_MENU_PREFIX by default at the moment, but it might be something we want to do for 11.1. Note that setting XDG_MENU_PREFIX will also affect the application browser. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org