22 Sep
2010
22 Sep
'10
15:51
>>> On 9/22/2010 at 09:07 PM, in message <1285169828.11929.26.camel@linux-yu4c.site>, Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@whitemice.org> wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 09:30 -0600, Sankar P wrote: > > >>> On 9/22/2010 at 07:41 PM, in message <20100922141103.GY13247@vuntz.net>, > > Vincent Untz <vuntz@opensuse.org> wrote: > > > - xchat: we ship empathy with irc support by default. > > > (I'm not 100% sure on this one) > > I personally would recommend to continue installing xchat. I know of a > > lot of people who like xchat for its simplicity and have years of IRC > > logs, even though there are alternatives like pidgin/empathy. > > And if those alternatives actually worked. Pidgin supports HTTP proxy > servers, empathy not at all [or only via GNOME's lextremely lame proxy > server support - why can none of this software auto-detect like > browser's have been able to do since Netscape 4? Sorry, major > irritant.] They also don't support IRC over HTTP, which xchat does and > is widely used. Also, IMO, the interface choice > Instead of every application having to write GUI (and that lacks usability/translation/etc.) it is a far better approach to have one place to configure network GNOME wide. IIRC, we had some such ugly app-specific network configure patch for network configure of Evo and it really wasnt much appreciated. And then we made a "Use GNOME settings" option to this custom GUI (or some such). I dont know if it is still in the same state. The point I am trying to make is, individual apps. trying to guess network is sub-optimal and they should rely on the base system. OTOH, If the GNOME wide proxy configuration does not have auto-detection like browsers, please file a bug (I believe there should one already in bugzilla.gnome.org) IRC over http is something I didnt know so far and I believe is enough to convince our core-team to retain xchat ;-) > user > comment > user > comment > > used in empathy is also really bad for multi-party conversations. > > user: comment > user: comment > > is *far and away* more readable. > I personally have not used anything except xchat. Based on what you say, "ugh, pidgin is ugly". I wonder why they did so, as pidgin for IM has the sane "User: Message" format. Sankar http://psankar.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org