Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #310944, revision 2 Title: openSUSE 11.4 Manuals - openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.4: Evaluation by engineering manager Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: We need for openSUSE 11.4 a review and update of the startup guidee and of other manuals. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310944

Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #310944, revision 4 Title: openSUSE 11.4 Manuals openSUSE-11.4: Evaluation by engineering manager Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: We need for openSUSE 11.4 a review and update of the startup guidee and of other manuals. Let us add in the comments what we need to change in the documentation Discussion: #1: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:19:08) The startup manual mentions KNetworkManager, we use now a new Plasma Network applet. + #2: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:22:12) + We use LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice.org + #3: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:25:28) + Remove any beagle documentation, we have now tracker for GNOME and + strigi for KDE. + #4: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:26:44) (reply to #3) + This includes kerry as well. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310944

Feature changed by: Alex Bars (alexdbars) Feature #310944, revision 8 Title: openSUSE 11.4 Manuals openSUSE-11.4: Evaluation by engineering manager Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: We need for openSUSE 11.4 a review and update of the startup guidee and of other manuals. Let us add in the comments what we need to change in the documentation Discussion: #1: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:19:08) The startup manual mentions KNetworkManager, we use now a new Plasma Network applet. #2: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:22:12) We use LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice.org #3: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:25:28) Remove any beagle documentation, we have now tracker for GNOME and strigi for KDE. #4: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:26:44) (reply to #3) This includes kerry as well. #5: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-06 17:55:06) I agree! A month a new user,ask what is need to "control" openSUSE/Linux, and the best manuals are sold by big corporatives, we need a "open" Manual, to our "open" openSUSE Linux! + #6: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-08 01:19:59) + openSUSE is amazing, I will translate to portuguese, really thanks!! -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310944

Feature changed by: Scott Couston (zczc2311) Feature #310944, revision 11 Title: openSUSE 11.4 Manuals openSUSE-11.4: Evaluation by engineering manager Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: We need for openSUSE 11.4 a review and update of the startup guidee and of other manuals. Let us add in the comments what we need to change in the documentation Discussion: #1: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:19:08) The startup manual mentions KNetworkManager, we use now a new Plasma Network applet. #2: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:22:12) We use LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice.org #3: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:25:28) Remove any beagle documentation, we have now tracker for GNOME and strigi for KDE. #4: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:26:44) (reply to #3) This includes kerry as well. #5: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-06 17:55:06) I agree! A month a new user,ask what is need to "control" openSUSE/Linux, and the best manuals are sold by big corporatives, we need a "open" Manual, to our "open" openSUSE Linux! #7: Thomas Schraitle (thomas-schraitle) (2010-12-10 10:34:52) (reply to #5) The manuals are already open ! :-) We moved our openSUSE manuals to the BerliOS SVN some time ago. Find the source code of our manuals here: https://developer.berlios.de/projects/opensuse-doc/ (https://developer.berlios.de/projects/opensuse-doc/) Hope you like it! #6: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-08 01:19:59) openSUSE is amazing, I will translate to portuguese, really thanks!! + #8: Scott Couston (zczc2311) (2010-12-17 22:58:47) + Great idea to go right through the user manual and offer a quick start + guide. One of my issues about the user manual is that the download link + sits at the bottom of the download page and is off screen. My + suggestion is that we put a Down-load Link Picture next to the version + selection for download, so people can see it - Many for the first time! + I would also suggest we put a hit counter behind the User Manual. + There is plenty of room on our standard software download page - please + stop hiding it screen at the bottom of the download page + http://software.opensuse.org/113/en -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310944

Feature changed by: Thomas Schraitle (thomas-schraitle) Feature #310944, revision 13 Title: openSUSE 11.4 Manuals openSUSE-11.4: Evaluation by engineering manager Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: We need for openSUSE 11.4 a review and update of the startup guidee and of other manuals. Let us add in the comments what we need to change in the documentation Discussion: #1: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:19:08) The startup manual mentions KNetworkManager, we use now a new Plasma Network applet. #2: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:22:12) We use LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice.org #3: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:25:28) Remove any beagle documentation, we have now tracker for GNOME and strigi for KDE. #4: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:26:44) (reply to #3) This includes kerry as well. #5: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-06 17:55:06) I agree! A month a new user,ask what is need to "control" openSUSE/Linux, and the best manuals are sold by big corporatives, we need a "open" Manual, to our "open" openSUSE Linux! #7: Thomas Schraitle (thomas-schraitle) (2010-12-10 10:34:52) (reply to #5) The manuals are already open ! :-) We moved our openSUSE manuals to the BerliOS SVN some time ago. Find the source code of our manuals here: https://developer.berlios.de/projects/opensuse-doc/ (https://developer.berlios.de/projects/opensuse-doc/) Hope you like it! #6: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-08 01:19:59) openSUSE is amazing, I will translate to portuguese, really thanks!! #9: Thomas Schraitle (thomas-schraitle) (2010-12-20 09:09:13) (reply to #6) This would be nice! :-) We have already Russian, Hungarian, and Japanese. You can get in contact with us at the opensuse-doc@opensuse.org mailinglist for more details. :) #8: Scott Couston (zczc2311) (2010-12-17 22:58:47) Great idea to go right through the user manual and offer a quick start guide. One of my issues about the user manual is that the download link sits at the bottom of the download page and is off screen. My suggestion is that we put a Down-load Link Picture next to the version selection for download, so people can see it - Many for the first time! I would also suggest we put a hit counter behind the User Manual. There is plenty of room on our standard software download page - please stop hiding it screen at the bottom of the download page http://software.opensuse.org/113/en + #10: Thomas Schraitle (thomas-schraitle) (2010-12-20 09:15:53) (reply + to #8) + > One of my issues about the user manual is that the download link sits + > at the bottom of the download page and is off screen. Well, but this + is not an issue with the manuals itself. It's just the presentation of + how they appear. I think, this is out of scope for _this_ FATE request. + Therefor, I've created a separate bug report, see + https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=660475 + Feel free to improve it. :-) -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310944

Feature changed by: Luiz Fernando Ranghetti (elchevive) Feature #310944, revision 15 Title: openSUSE 11.4 Manuals openSUSE-11.4: Evaluation by engineering manager Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: We need for openSUSE 11.4 a review and update of the startup guidee and of other manuals. Let us add in the comments what we need to change in the documentation Discussion: #1: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:19:08) The startup manual mentions KNetworkManager, we use now a new Plasma Network applet. #11: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) (2010-12-31 21:09:16) (reply to #1) I think there is a bit of a confusion about how this applet and the corresponding software (package) is or should be called. Compare e. g.: 1) http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=networkmanager-kde4&baseproject=openSU... 3AFactory (http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=networkmanager-kde4&baseproject=openSU... 3AFactory) " NetworkManager-kde4 " in KDE:Distro:Factory/openSUSE_Factory " KNetworkManager is a KDE 4 applet for controlling network connections on systems that use the NetworkManager service." 2) http://userbase.kde.org/NetworkManagement (http://userbase.kde.org/NetworkManagement) " User Clients KNetworkManager applet for KDE 4, Network Management Plasmoid under KDE 4, KNetworkManager under KDE 3, nm-applet under GNOME, and cnetworkmanager is your last life. These are responsible for [...]" 3) http://www.novell.com/documentation/opensuse113/book_opensuse_startup/?page=... (http://www.novell.com/documentation/opensuse113/book_opensuse_startup/?page=...) "5.4 Using KNetworkManager The KDE front-end for NetworkManager is the KNetworkManager applet. If the network has been set up for NetworkManager control, the applet usually starts automatically with the desktop environment and is shown as an icon in the system tray.[...]" #2: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:22:12) We use LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice.org #3: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:25:28) Remove any beagle documentation, we have now tracker for GNOME and strigi for KDE. #4: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:26:44) (reply to #3) This includes kerry as well. #5: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-06 17:55:06) I agree! A month a new user,ask what is need to "control" openSUSE/Linux, and the best manuals are sold by big corporatives, we need a "open" Manual, to our "open" openSUSE Linux! #7: Thomas Schraitle (thomas-schraitle) (2010-12-10 10:34:52) (reply to #5) The manuals are already open ! :-) We moved our openSUSE manuals to the BerliOS SVN some time ago. Find the source code of our manuals here: https://developer.berlios.de/projects/opensuse-doc/ (https://developer.berlios.de/projects/opensuse-doc/) Hope you like it! #6: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-08 01:19:59) openSUSE is amazing, I will translate to portuguese, really thanks!! #9: Thomas Schraitle (thomas-schraitle) (2010-12-20 09:09:13) (reply to #6) This would be nice! :-) We have already Russian, Hungarian, and Japanese. You can get in contact with us at the opensuse-doc@opensuse.org mailinglist for more details. :) #8: Scott Couston (zczc2311) (2010-12-17 22:58:47) Great idea to go right through the user manual and offer a quick start guide. One of my issues about the user manual is that the download link sits at the bottom of the download page and is off screen. My suggestion is that we put a Down-load Link Picture next to the version selection for download, so people can see it - Many for the first time! I would also suggest we put a hit counter behind the User Manual. There is plenty of room on our standard software download page - please stop hiding it screen at the bottom of the download page http://software.opensuse.org/113/en #10: Thomas Schraitle (thomas-schraitle) (2010-12-20 09:15:53) (reply to #8)

One of my issues about the user manual is that the download link sits at the bottom of the download page and is off screen. Well, but this is not an issue with the manuals itself. It's just the presentation of how they appear. I think, this is out of scope for _this_ FATE request. Therefor, I've created a separate bug report, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=660475 Feel free to improve it. :-)

+ #12: Luiz Fernando Ranghetti (elchevive) (2011-01-18 17:00:28) + AppArmor was updated to 2.5.1 (instead of 2.3.1 in 11.3) -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310944

Feature changed by: Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) Feature #310944, revision 17 Title: openSUSE 11.4 Manuals - openSUSE-11.4: Evaluation by engineering manager + openSUSE-11.4: Rejected by Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) + reject reason: openSUSE 11.4 is now EOL. Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: We need for openSUSE 11.4 a review and update of the startup guidee and of other manuals. Let us add in the comments what we need to change in the documentation Discussion: #1: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:19:08) The startup manual mentions KNetworkManager, we use now a new Plasma Network applet. #11: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) (2010-12-31 21:09:16) (reply to #1) I think there is a bit of a confusion about how this applet and the corresponding software (package) is or should be called. Compare e. g.: 1) http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=networkmanager-kde4&baseproject=openSU... 3AFactory (http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=networkmanager-kde4&baseproject=openSU... 3AFactory) " NetworkManager-kde4 " in KDE:Distro:Factory/openSUSE_Factory " KNetworkManager is a KDE 4 applet for controlling network connections on systems that use the NetworkManager service." 2) http://userbase.kde.org/NetworkManagement (http://userbase.kde.org/NetworkManagement) " User Clients KNetworkManager applet for KDE 4, Network Management Plasmoid under KDE 4, KNetworkManager under KDE 3, nm-applet under GNOME, and cnetworkmanager is your last life. These are responsible for [...]" 3) http://www.novell.com/documentation/opensuse113/book_opensuse_startup/?page=... (http://www.novell.com/documentation/opensuse113/book_opensuse_startup/?page=...) "5.4 Using KNetworkManager The KDE front-end for NetworkManager is the KNetworkManager applet. If the network has been set up for NetworkManager control, the applet usually starts automatically with the desktop environment and is shown as an icon in the system tray.[...]" #2: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:22:12) We use LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice.org #3: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:25:28) Remove any beagle documentation, we have now tracker for GNOME and strigi for KDE. #4: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-12-06 13:26:44) (reply to #3) This includes kerry as well. #5: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-06 17:55:06) I agree! A month a new user,ask what is need to "control" openSUSE/Linux, and the best manuals are sold by big corporatives, we need a "open" Manual, to our "open" openSUSE Linux! #7: Thomas Schraitle (thomas-schraitle) (2010-12-10 10:34:52) (reply to #5) The manuals are already open ! :-) We moved our openSUSE manuals to the BerliOS SVN some time ago. Find the source code of our manuals here: https://developer.berlios.de/projects/opensuse-doc/ (https://developer.berlios.de/projects/opensuse-doc/) Hope you like it! #6: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-08 01:19:59) openSUSE is amazing, I will translate to portuguese, really thanks!! #9: Thomas Schraitle (thomas-schraitle) (2010-12-20 09:09:13) (reply to #6) This would be nice! :-) We have already Russian, Hungarian, and Japanese. You can get in contact with us at the opensuse-doc@opensuse.org mailinglist for more details. :) #8: Scott Couston (zczc2311) (2010-12-17 22:58:47) Great idea to go right through the user manual and offer a quick start guide. One of my issues about the user manual is that the download link sits at the bottom of the download page and is off screen. My suggestion is that we put a Down-load Link Picture next to the version selection for download, so people can see it - Many for the first time! I would also suggest we put a hit counter behind the User Manual. There is plenty of room on our standard software download page - please stop hiding it screen at the bottom of the download page http://software.opensuse.org/113/en #10: Thomas Schraitle (thomas-schraitle) (2010-12-20 09:15:53) (reply to #8)

One of my issues about the user manual is that the download link sits at the bottom of the download page and is off screen. Well, but this is not an issue with the manuals itself. It's just the presentation of how they appear. I think, this is out of scope for _this_ FATE request. Therefor, I've created a separate bug report, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=660475 Feel free to improve it. :-)

#12: Luiz Fernando Ranghetti (elchevive) (2011-01-18 17:00:28) AppArmor was updated to 2.5.1 (instead of 2.3.1 in 11.3) #13: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) (2011-03-09 15:22:44) I think the URLs are wrong now: The document under Start-Up (Publication Date 09 Mar 2011) http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE_113/opensuse-startup is probably just the actual (Startup for 11.4). Under "Start-Up" with http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE_114/opensuse-startup seems to be now what in 11.3 was devided in in GNOME User Guide http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE_113/opensuse-gnomeuser/ and KDE User Guide http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE_113/opensuse-kdeuser/ . I would think hat naming it "User Guide" or "KDE/GNOME User Guide" would make sense. puzzeled pistazienfresser (Martin) see (de:): http://forums.opensuse.org/deutsch-german/community-talk/ankuendigungen-und-... -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310944