Feature changed by: Barry Nichols (Barry_Nichols) Feature #300688, revision 54 Title: Show virtual keyboard on TabletPC during installation openSUSE-10.2: Rejected by Jiri Srain (jsrain) reject date: 2006-09-25 14:06:21 reject reason: Not enough resources. Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Desirable openSUSE-10.3: Rejected by Edith Parzefall (emapedl) reject date: 2007-07-24 14:21:32 reject reason: Sorry, not doable for 10.3. Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Desirable openSUSE-11.0: Rejected by Michael Löffler (michl19) reject date: 2008-01-11 16:39:04 reject reason: out of scope for openSUSE Priority Requester: Mandatory openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Michael Löffler (michl19) reject date: 2009-04-16 12:27:27 reject reason: tablet PC not in scope for 11.2 Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Stefan Behlert (sbehlert) Description: Tablet PCs are normally produced in two kinds of flavours: Convertibles, which have a keyboard, and Slates, which have none (only pens or touchscreens). If a user installs a Slate, he has to press e.g. buttons without having a keyboard to do it. Additionally he has no mouse device (except his pen) to press buttons. To do so, two ways are possible: Either using some kind of graffiti scribbling, which makes entering e. g. the password an adventure, or by providing a virtual keyboard where the user can select the characters. The second possibility is far superior and also used by Windows. It should be simply to blend xvkbd into the screen. Only possible problems: If a 800x600 resolution is used, the display is really small for both Yast and the keyboard. Discussion: #3: Edith Parzefall (emapedl) (2006-09-20 17:04:28) Jiri, do you see any chance to have it done in your team? Otherwise, I'd reject it. #6: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2008-01-11 13:50:29) I would think that such devices are out of context for openSUSE 11.0, but asking Michl. How would this look like? Would the xvkbd always be visible and yast screen reduced accordingly? #7: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2008-01-11 16:38:08) As long as this is not required by SLED this is out of scope for openSUSE. #9: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2008-01-11 17:11:57) (reply to #8) Even vision and innovation need to be prioritized. Correct me if I'm wrong - but tablet PC still has a very minor market share. #10: Guy Lunardi (glunardi) (2008-01-18 17:34:09) Gartner projects 5% to 20% market penetration for Tablet PCs in the Healthcare. It is positioned as: "Tablet PCs meet all the criteria for a notebook PC and are equipped with a pen and an on-screen digitizer". "The tablet PC is solid and mature for vertical applications where it solves a specific problem. Of course there are 2 kinds of tablets, with physical keyboard and without (slab). I had to install openSUSE 10.3 on a slab myself and must admit that on-screen would have been nice. Is there an engineering effort estimate that could be looked at before we reject it for SLED11? #11: Stefan Behlert (sbehlert) (2008-05-21 21:39:58) (reply to #10) Duncan, any effort estimation? #13: Guy Lunardi (glunardi) (2008-06-23 11:44:51) (reply to #11) As we discussed, support for tablet is primarly critical at runtime. if we can add support for the install, that would be great even for accessibility reasons. I think we should focus our resources on making sure that tablets work well once the system is installed. #14: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2008-11-18 13:38:12) (reply to #13) Sure, but this was rejected because there are no resources to do it. So what did we had to drop in order to make it? Without reprioritization there is nothing we can do. I will provide an effort estimation for a next cycle. Estimating the effort here means basically prototyping it, and that just can't be done. #16: Matthias Nagorni (mnagorni) (2009-08-24 13:16:36) As long as it can be installed via USB keyboard this is no more than "nice to have". + #17: Barry Nichols (barry_nichols) (2010-07-15 02:50:14) (reply to + #16) + Providing the user has a spare USB keyboard, or is willing to buy one simply to + enable them to perform the installation process. + I believe a user would be more likely to use another OS than to buy a + keyboard. + It might be worth considering for the next release, especially as + tablet PCs are becoming more popular. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/300688