Feature changed by: Robert Davies (robopensuse) Feature #306917, revision 7 Title: Improvements to restricted-multimedia codecs installer openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) Description: At the moment the execution of opensuse-codecs-installer leads to a rather unnerving chain of events for beginners starting with the webpage. http://software.opensuse.org/codecs?client_version=10.3.1&lang=en_GB. UTF-8&os_release=openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64)&kernel=2.6.27.23-0.1- default&gstreamer=gstreamer-utils-0.10.21-3.13& The request is to either have a different implementation of codec- installer itself (for example, clicking the search for codecs button on the codec installer automatically starts a one-click-installer for installing required multimedia packages), or improve the codec- installer website to make things easy (reduce number of clicks required to just 1 or 2) and trivial (ie. no decision-making about fluendo/community, etc).   Use Case: New user (openSUSE virgin ;) , i.e., any MAN or WOMAN who hasn't used openSUSE yet, possibly only has used windows till now) tries to play an mp3 file. Then the following sequence starts: 1) Codecs-installer pops up. 2) User clicks on install codecs (preferably call it restricted- multimedia support). 3) Browser opens, shows up website with version of opensuse and desktop environment detected. 4) User clicks to start one-click installer. 5) Installatin completes, user retries playing mp3 file, it works, user happy. Discussion: #1: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) (2009-07-19 23:50:31) The present sequence of processes while installing restricted-formats has drawbacks:   1) The first page gives option between Fluendo and Community codecs, leading to confusion/decision making. Fluendo support will be dead by the time 11.2 releases, so this needs a change anyway. 2) Clicking on the Community codecs further leads to the following page: http://opensuse-community.org/Multimedia which is, in itself, even more confusing. 3) It may not be very clear to the user that he/she needs to click on the restricted formats link in the first paragraph of the page. 4) Clicking on the above link takes one to the following webpage http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats 5) whereupon, one needs to click the link corresponding  to version of openSUSE he/she is using. 6) Here one is again presented choice between KDE and Gnome codecs, and one has to click the corresponding .ymp link to start the one-click installer process which will definitely require more than one-click. How many clicks to get to the installer process starting from clicking on the codec-installer application? 5 (not even counting the one-click installer clicks that will now take over). For a newbie this is not easy at all.<!--EndFragment-->   + #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-12-18 17:08:05) + This is one area where Kubuntu wins on easy of use, staring Konqueror + for first time resulted in a dialog, offering to install them.  That + may not be possible for openSUSE, but perhaps some "Post-Install What + Next?" page could guide new users, to getting codecs, and allowing + update to get web fonts and flash might help the impression the distro + makes. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306917

Feature changed by: jpxviii jpxviii (jpxviii) Feature #306917, revision 10 Title: Improvements to restricted-multimedia codecs installer openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important + openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + Priority + Requester: Important Requested by: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) Description: At the moment the execution of opensuse-codecs-installer leads to a rather unnerving chain of events for beginners starting with the webpage. http://software.opensuse.org/codecs?client_version=10.3.1&lang=en_GB. UTF-8&os_release=openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64)&kernel=2.6.27.23-0.1- default&gstreamer=gstreamer-utils-0.10.21-3.13& The request is to either have a different implementation of codec- installer itself (for example, clicking the search for codecs button on the codec installer automatically starts a one-click-installer for installing required multimedia packages), or improve the codec- installer website to make things easy (reduce number of clicks required to just 1 or 2) and trivial (ie. no decision-making about fluendo/community, etc).   Use Case: New user (openSUSE virgin ;) , i.e., any MAN or WOMAN who hasn't used openSUSE yet, possibly only has used windows till now) tries to play an mp3 file. Then the following sequence starts: 1) Codecs-installer pops up. 2) User clicks on install codecs (preferably call it restricted- multimedia support). 3) Browser opens, shows up website with version of opensuse and desktop environment detected. 4) User clicks to start one-click installer. 5) Installatin completes, user retries playing mp3 file, it works, user happy. Discussion: #1: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) (2009-07-19 23:50:31) The present sequence of processes while installing restricted-formats has drawbacks:   1) The first page gives option between Fluendo and Community codecs, leading to confusion/decision making. Fluendo support will be dead by the time 11.2 releases, so this needs a change anyway. 2) Clicking on the Community codecs further leads to the following page: http://opensuse-community.org/Multimedia which is, in itself, even more confusing. 3) It may not be very clear to the user that he/she needs to click on the restricted formats link in the first paragraph of the page. 4) Clicking on the above link takes one to the following webpage http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats 5) whereupon, one needs to click the link corresponding  to version of openSUSE he/she is using. 6) Here one is again presented choice between KDE and Gnome codecs, and one has to click the corresponding .ymp link to start the one-click installer process which will definitely require more than one-click. How many clicks to get to the installer process starting from clicking on the codec-installer application? 5 (not even counting the one-click installer clicks that will now take over). For a newbie this is not easy at all.<!--EndFragment-->   #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-12-18 17:08:05) This is one area where Kubuntu wins on easy of use, staring Konqueror for first time resulted in a dialog, offering to install them.  That may not be possible for openSUSE, but perhaps some "Post-Install What Next?" page could guide new users, to getting codecs, and allowing update to get web fonts and flash might help the impression the distro makes. #3: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-01-03 04:27:02) Yea, making it straight forward any easy to install codecs is an overall useability win. Seems trivial to provide a link to the codecs page on a trigger, eithe just a first boot message or w/e. Possibly even for video drivers? Pretty easy to detect card manufacture and point to a one click or instruciton page. Installation is already easy, but to new users it isn't obvious how or where they are to go to find the installers. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306917

Feature changed by: jpxviii jpxviii (jpxviii) Feature #306917, revision 12 Title: Improvements to restricted-multimedia codecs installer Hackweek V: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority - Requester: Important + Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) Description: At the moment the execution of opensuse-codecs-installer leads to a rather unnerving chain of events for beginners starting with the webpage. http://software.opensuse.org/codecs?client_version=10.3.1&lang=en_GB. UTF-8&os_release=openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64)&kernel=2.6.27.23-0.1- default&gstreamer=gstreamer-utils-0.10.21-3.13& The request is to either have a different implementation of codec- installer itself (for example, clicking the search for codecs button on the codec installer automatically starts a one-click-installer for installing required multimedia packages), or improve the codec- installer website to make things easy (reduce number of clicks required to just 1 or 2) and trivial (ie. no decision-making about fluendo/community, etc).   Use Case: New user (openSUSE virgin ;) , i.e., any MAN or WOMAN who hasn't used openSUSE yet, possibly only has used windows till now) tries to play an mp3 file. Then the following sequence starts: 1) Codecs-installer pops up. 2) User clicks on install codecs (preferably call it restricted- multimedia support). 3) Browser opens, shows up website with version of opensuse and desktop environment detected. 4) User clicks to start one-click installer. 5) Installatin completes, user retries playing mp3 file, it works, user happy. Discussion: #1: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) (2009-07-19 23:50:31) The present sequence of processes while installing restricted-formats has drawbacks:   1) The first page gives option between Fluendo and Community codecs, leading to confusion/decision making. Fluendo support will be dead by the time 11.2 releases, so this needs a change anyway. 2) Clicking on the Community codecs further leads to the following page: http://opensuse-community.org/Multimedia which is, in itself, even more confusing. 3) It may not be very clear to the user that he/she needs to click on the restricted formats link in the first paragraph of the page. 4) Clicking on the above link takes one to the following webpage http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats 5) whereupon, one needs to click the link corresponding  to version of openSUSE he/she is using. 6) Here one is again presented choice between KDE and Gnome codecs, and one has to click the corresponding .ymp link to start the one-click installer process which will definitely require more than one-click. How many clicks to get to the installer process starting from clicking on the codec-installer application? 5 (not even counting the one-click installer clicks that will now take over). For a newbie this is not easy at all.<!--EndFragment-->   #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-12-18 17:08:05) This is one area where Kubuntu wins on easy of use, staring Konqueror for first time resulted in a dialog, offering to install them.  That may not be possible for openSUSE, but perhaps some "Post-Install What Next?" page could guide new users, to getting codecs, and allowing update to get web fonts and flash might help the impression the distro makes. #3: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-01-03 04:27:02) Yea, making it straight forward any easy to install codecs is an overall useability win. Seems trivial to provide a link to the codecs page on a trigger, eithe just a first boot message or w/e. Possibly even for video drivers? Pretty easy to detect card manufacture and point to a one click or instruciton page. Installation is already easy, but to new users it isn't obvious how or where they are to go to find the installers. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306917

Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #306917, revision 14 Title: Improvements to restricted-multimedia codecs installer openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-11-15 10:28:58 reject reason: Not done in time for openSUSE 11.2. Priority Requester: Important - openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: At the moment the execution of opensuse-codecs-installer leads to a rather unnerving chain of events for beginners starting with the webpage. http://software.opensuse.org/codecs?client_version=10.3.1&lang=en_GB. UTF-8&os_release=openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64)&kernel=2.6.27.23-0.1- default&gstreamer=gstreamer-utils-0.10.21-3.13& The request is to either have a different implementation of codec- installer itself (for example, clicking the search for codecs button on the codec installer automatically starts a one-click-installer for installing required multimedia packages), or improve the codec- installer website to make things easy (reduce number of clicks required to just 1 or 2) and trivial (ie. no decision-making about fluendo/community, etc). Use Case: New user (openSUSE virgin ;) , i.e., any MAN or WOMAN who hasn't used openSUSE yet, possibly only has used windows till now) tries to play an mp3 file. Then the following sequence starts: 1) Codecs-installer pops up. 2) User clicks on install codecs (preferably call it restricted- multimedia support). 3) Browser opens, shows up website with version of opensuse and desktop environment detected. 4) User clicks to start one-click installer. 5) Installatin completes, user retries playing mp3 file, it works, user happy. Discussion: #1: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) (2009-07-19 23:50:31) The present sequence of processes while installing restricted-formats has drawbacks: 1) The first page gives option between Fluendo and Community codecs, leading to confusion/decision making. Fluendo support will be dead by the time 11.2 releases, so this needs a change anyway. 2) Clicking on the Community codecs further leads to the following page: http://opensuse-community.org/Multimedia which is, in itself, even more confusing. 3) It may not be very clear to the user that he/she needs to click on the restricted formats link in the first paragraph of the page. 4) Clicking on the above link takes one to the following webpage http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats 5) whereupon, one needs to click the link corresponding  to version of openSUSE he/she is using. 6) Here one is again presented choice between KDE and Gnome codecs, and one has to click the corresponding .ymp link to start the one-click installer process which will definitely require more than one-click. How many clicks to get to the installer process starting from clicking on the codec-installer application? 5 (not even counting the one-click installer clicks that will now take over). For a newbie this is not easy at all.<!--EndFragment--> #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-12-18 17:08:05) This is one area where Kubuntu wins on easy of use, staring Konqueror for first time resulted in a dialog, offering to install them.  That may not be possible for openSUSE, but perhaps some "Post-Install What Next?" page could guide new users, to getting codecs, and allowing update to get web fonts and flash might help the impression the distro makes. #3: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-01-03 04:27:02) Yea, making it straight forward any easy to install codecs is an overall useability win. Seems trivial to provide a link to the codecs page on a trigger, eithe just a first boot message or w/e. Possibly even for video drivers? Pretty easy to detect card manufacture and point to a one click or instruciton page. Installation is already easy, but to new users it isn't obvious how or where they are to go to find the installers. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306917

Feature changed by: Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) Feature #306917, revision 19 Title: Improvements to restricted-multimedia codecs installer - openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) - reject date: 2010-11-15 10:28:58 - reject reason: Not done in time for openSUSE 11.2. + openSUSE Distribution: Rejected by Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) + reject reason: No longer used, the link does not actually install + stuff. Priority - Requester: Important + Requester: Desirable - openSUSE-11.4: New - Priority - Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: At the moment the execution of opensuse-codecs-installer leads to a rather unnerving chain of events for beginners starting with the webpage. http://software.opensuse.org/codecs?client_version=10.3.1&lang=en_GB. UTF-8&os_release=openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64)&kernel=2.6.27.23-0.1- default&gstreamer=gstreamer-utils-0.10.21-3.13& The request is to either have a different implementation of codec- installer itself (for example, clicking the search for codecs button on the codec installer automatically starts a one-click-installer for installing required multimedia packages), or improve the codec- installer website to make things easy (reduce number of clicks required to just 1 or 2) and trivial (ie. no decision-making about fluendo/community, etc). Use Case: New user (openSUSE virgin ;) , i.e., any MAN or WOMAN who hasn't used openSUSE yet, possibly only has used windows till now) tries to play an mp3 file. Then the following sequence starts: 1) Codecs-installer pops up. 2) User clicks on install codecs (preferably call it restricted- multimedia support). 3) Browser opens, shows up website with version of opensuse and desktop environment detected. 4) User clicks to start one-click installer. 5) Installatin completes, user retries playing mp3 file, it works, user happy. Discussion: #1: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) (2009-07-19 23:50:31) The present sequence of processes while installing restricted-formats has drawbacks: 1) The first page gives option between Fluendo and Community codecs, leading to confusion/decision making. Fluendo support will be dead by the time 11.2 releases, so this needs a change anyway. 2) Clicking on the Community codecs further leads to the following page: http://opensuse-community.org/Multimedia which is, in itself, even more confusing. 3) It may not be very clear to the user that he/she needs to click on the restricted formats link in the first paragraph of the page. 4) Clicking on the above link takes one to the following webpage http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats 5) whereupon, one needs to click the link corresponding  to version of openSUSE he/she is using. 6) Here one is again presented choice between KDE and Gnome codecs, and one has to click the corresponding .ymp link to start the one-click installer process which will definitely require more than one-click. How many clicks to get to the installer process starting from clicking on the codec-installer application? 5 (not even counting the one-click installer clicks that will now take over). For a newbie this is not easy at all.<!--EndFragment--> #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-12-18 17:08:05) This is one area where Kubuntu wins on easy of use, staring Konqueror for first time resulted in a dialog, offering to install them.  That may not be possible for openSUSE, but perhaps some "Post-Install What Next?" page could guide new users, to getting codecs, and allowing update to get web fonts and flash might help the impression the distro makes. #3: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-01-03 04:27:02) Yea, making it straight forward any easy to install codecs is an overall useability win. Seems trivial to provide a link to the codecs page on a trigger, eithe just a first boot message or w/e. Possibly even for video drivers? Pretty easy to detect card manufacture and point to a one click or instruciton page. Installation is already easy, but to new users it isn't obvious how or where they are to go to find the installers. #4: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) (2011-07-29 18:49:46) Is there anything going on toward making one-click installs easier. This request seems to have hit a wall, though I understand from the several installs I have done for friends, colleagues, etc. that a simplified one-click-installer would be very welcome. Most of the people find the idea for one-click installation (namely click on a button from a web-page) great but get bummed out when splattered with a bunch of notices about importing keys, repositories etc that the installer currently chooses to do. Unfortunately I am no good at coding, otherwise I would have given it a shot myself. Anyway, good luck to anybody who attempts this. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306917