Feature changed by: Andres Linares (satoshi-takao) Feature #307522, revision 2 - Title: Improove font rendering on openSUSE + Title: Improve font rendering on openSUSE openFATE: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Andres Linares (satoshi-takao) Description: It would be great if font rendering in openSUSE looks like Mac OS X's - or Windows' with Cleartype. Ubuntu has improoved it a little. I think + or Windows' with Cleartype. Ubuntu has improved it a little. I think this could be important for openSUSE interface. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307522

Feature changed by: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) Feature #307522, revision 4 Title: Improve font rendering on openSUSE openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Andres Linares (satoshi-takao) Description: It would be great if font rendering in openSUSE looks like Mac OS X's or Windows' with Cleartype. Ubuntu has improved it a little. I think this could be important for openSUSE interface. Discussion: #1: Thomas Schmidt (digitaltomm) (2009-08-31 12:54:52) Could you please give more information on how to achieve this? Afaic cleartype is disabled in opensuse because of microsoft patents. There is a howto for enabling it: http://opensuse-community.org/SubpixelHinting + #2: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2009-09-03 16:09:17) + And also, subpixel rendering leaves an ugly color trail on CRTs, that + is even noticable on LCDs. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307522

Feature changed by: Isaak Malik (EarthMind) Feature #307522, revision 7 Title: Improve font rendering on openSUSE openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Andres Linares (satoshi-takao) Description: It would be great if font rendering in openSUSE looks like Mac OS X's or Windows' with Cleartype. Ubuntu has improved it a little. I think this could be important for openSUSE interface. Discussion: #1: Thomas Schmidt (digitaltomm) (2009-08-31 12:54:52) Could you please give more information on how to achieve this? Afaic cleartype is disabled in opensuse because of microsoft patents. There is a howto for enabling it: http://opensuse-community.org/SubpixelHinting #2: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2009-09-03 16:09:17) And also, subpixel rendering leaves an ugly color trail on CRTs, that is even noticable on LCDs. #3: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-12-01 00:15:47) Having installed Windows 7, and having gone through a wizard for their font rendering, I am not so convinced by their technology; I found their examples rather fuzzy and unclear on a good Pro CRT.  Most font issues I see in Linux are cured by CNTRL-+; though I have seen screenshots of some disgusting fonts in YaST post-installation. + #4: Isaak Malik (earthmind) (2010-07-16 14:36:12) + To be honest, working in OpenSUSE irritates my eyes very fast because + of the bad font anti-aliasing.  This however does not occur in Windows + or not even Ubuntu. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307522

Feature changed by: jpxviii jpxviii (jpxviii) Feature #307522, revision 9 Title: Improve font rendering on openSUSE openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important + openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + Priority + Requester: Important Requested by: Andres Linares (satoshi-takao) Description: It would be great if font rendering in openSUSE looks like Mac OS X's or Windows' with Cleartype. Ubuntu has improved it a little. I think this could be important for openSUSE interface. Discussion: #1: Thomas Schmidt (digitaltomm) (2009-08-31 12:54:52) Could you please give more information on how to achieve this? Afaic cleartype is disabled in opensuse because of microsoft patents. There is a howto for enabling it: http://opensuse-community.org/SubpixelHinting #2: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2009-09-03 16:09:17) And also, subpixel rendering leaves an ugly color trail on CRTs, that is even noticable on LCDs. #3: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-12-01 00:15:47) Having installed Windows 7, and having gone through a wizard for their font rendering, I am not so convinced by their technology; I found their examples rather fuzzy and unclear on a good Pro CRT.  Most font issues I see in Linux are cured by CNTRL-+; though I have seen screenshots of some disgusting fonts in YaST post-installation. #4: Isaak Malik (earthmind) (2010-07-16 14:36:12) To be honest, working in OpenSUSE irritates my eyes very fast because of the bad font anti-aliasing.  This however does not occur in Windows or not even Ubuntu. #5: Isaak Malik (earthmind) (2010-07-28 16:27:55) Please read this article on Linux Journal: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/prettier-fonts-way This entirely solves the patenting issues. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307522

Feature changed by: Jan Matejek (matejcik) Feature #307522, revision 11 Title: Improve font rendering on openSUSE Hackweek V: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Andres Linares (satoshi-takao) Description: It would be great if font rendering in openSUSE looks like Mac OS X's or Windows' with Cleartype. Ubuntu has improved it a little. I think this could be important for openSUSE interface. Discussion: #1: Thomas Schmidt (digitaltomm) (2009-08-31 12:54:52) Could you please give more information on how to achieve this? Afaic cleartype is disabled in opensuse because of microsoft patents. There is a howto for enabling it: http://opensuse-community.org/SubpixelHinting #2: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2009-09-03 16:09:17) And also, subpixel rendering leaves an ugly color trail on CRTs, that is even noticable on LCDs. #3: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-12-01 00:15:47) Having installed Windows 7, and having gone through a wizard for their font rendering, I am not so convinced by their technology; I found their examples rather fuzzy and unclear on a good Pro CRT.  Most font issues I see in Linux are cured by CNTRL-+; though I have seen screenshots of some disgusting fonts in YaST post-installation. #4: Isaak Malik (earthmind) (2010-07-16 14:36:12) To be honest, working in OpenSUSE irritates my eyes very fast because of the bad font anti-aliasing.  This however does not occur in Windows or not even Ubuntu. #5: Isaak Malik (earthmind) (2010-07-28 16:27:55) Please read this article on Linux Journal: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/prettier-fonts-way This entirely solves the patenting issues. + #6: Jan Matejek (matejcik) (2010-08-23 19:30:50) + -1 - ClearType is ugly itself. + the usual perceived problem is that fonts on webpages are ugly, but + this is solved by installing MS core fonts - in other words, it is not + a question of font rendering, but a question of using ugly (substitute) + fonts in the first place. + as for desktop fonts, to my poor eyes it seems that they are good + enough by default - care for some comparison screenshots? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307522

Feature changed by: Jared Meidal (kahu) Feature #307522, revision 14 Title: Improve font rendering on openSUSE openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-11-08 16:38:47 reject reason: Not done for 11.3. Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-11-08 16:39:22 reject reason: Not clear what exactly needs to be done. Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Andres Linares (satoshi-takao) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: It would be great if font rendering in openSUSE looks like Mac OS X's or Windows' with Cleartype. Ubuntu has improved it a little. I think this could be important for openSUSE interface. Discussion: #1: Thomas Schmidt (digitaltomm) (2009-08-31 12:54:52) Could you please give more information on how to achieve this? Afaic cleartype is disabled in opensuse because of microsoft patents. There is a howto for enabling it: http://opensuse-community.org/SubpixelHinting #2: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2009-09-03 16:09:17) And also, subpixel rendering leaves an ugly color trail on CRTs, that is even noticable on LCDs. #3: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-12-01 00:15:47) Having installed Windows 7, and having gone through a wizard for their font rendering, I am not so convinced by their technology; I found their examples rather fuzzy and unclear on a good Pro CRT.  Most font issues I see in Linux are cured by CNTRL-+; though I have seen screenshots of some disgusting fonts in YaST post-installation. #4: Isaak Malik (earthmind) (2010-07-16 14:36:12) To be honest, working in OpenSUSE irritates my eyes very fast because of the bad font anti-aliasing.  This however does not occur in Windows or not even Ubuntu. #5: Isaak Malik (earthmind) (2010-07-28 16:27:55) Please read this article on Linux Journal: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/prettier-fonts-way This entirely solves the patenting issues. #6: Jan Matejek (matejcik) (2010-08-23 19:30:50) -1 - ClearType is ugly itself. the usual perceived problem is that fonts on webpages are ugly, but this is solved by installing MS core fonts - in other words, it is not a question of font rendering, but a question of using ugly (substitute) fonts in the first place. as for desktop fonts, to my poor eyes it seems that they are good enough by default - care for some comparison screenshots? + #7: Jared Meidal (kahu) (2011-12-29 23:17:06) + Using OpenSUSE 12.1 + KDE 4.7.4 with freetype2-devel 2.4.7 my fonts are + crystal clear. (A DVI cable helps!) I have anti-aliasing enabled, and + sub-pixel rendering to RBG, and hinting style to Medium. + I think this is as good as it gets, and the issue has been solved with + freetype 2.4 released last year. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307522

Feature changed by: Jan Matejek (matejcik) Feature #307522, revision 16 Title: Improve font rendering on openSUSE openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-11-08 16:38:47 reject reason: Not done for 11.3. Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-11-08 16:39:22 reject reason: Not clear what exactly needs to be done. Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Andres Linares (satoshi-takao) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: It would be great if font rendering in openSUSE looks like Mac OS X's or Windows' with Cleartype. Ubuntu has improved it a little. I think this could be important for openSUSE interface. Discussion: #1: Thomas Schmidt (digitaltomm) (2009-08-31 12:54:52) Could you please give more information on how to achieve this? Afaic cleartype is disabled in opensuse because of microsoft patents. There is a howto for enabling it: http://opensuse-community.org/SubpixelHinting #2: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2009-09-03 16:09:17) And also, subpixel rendering leaves an ugly color trail on CRTs, that is even noticable on LCDs. #3: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-12-01 00:15:47) Having installed Windows 7, and having gone through a wizard for their font rendering, I am not so convinced by their technology; I found their examples rather fuzzy and unclear on a good Pro CRT.  Most font issues I see in Linux are cured by CNTRL-+; though I have seen screenshots of some disgusting fonts in YaST post-installation. #4: Isaak Malik (earthmind) (2010-07-16 14:36:12) To be honest, working in OpenSUSE irritates my eyes very fast because of the bad font anti-aliasing.  This however does not occur in Windows or not even Ubuntu. #5: Isaak Malik (earthmind) (2010-07-28 16:27:55) Please read this article on Linux Journal: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/prettier-fonts-way This entirely solves the patenting issues. #6: Jan Matejek (matejcik) (2010-08-23 19:30:50) -1 - ClearType is ugly itself. the usual perceived problem is that fonts on webpages are ugly, but this is solved by installing MS core fonts - in other words, it is not a question of font rendering, but a question of using ugly (substitute) fonts in the first place. as for desktop fonts, to my poor eyes it seems that they are good enough by default - care for some comparison screenshots? #8: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2011-12-30 07:50:38) (reply to #6) Wikipedia has a reasonable explanation and pictures of the difference between Antialias and AA+ClearType. Yes, AA without ClearType makes fonts perhaps look more gray. And this potential extra gray affect seems to have been ignored on features.opensuse.org where the CSS author decided to use #444444 instead of #000000... duh. + #9: Jan Matejek (matejcik) (2012-01-04 17:16:59) (reply to #8) + i understand the difference between AA, subpixel rendering and various + methods of font hinting. what i meant by comparison screenshots is + "opensuse default" versus "how it's supposed to look" (in OP's + opinion). again, to me, default openSUSE's font configuration looks + reasonably well #7: Jared Meidal (kahu) (2011-12-29 23:17:06) Using OpenSUSE 12.1 + KDE 4.7.4 with freetype2-devel 2.4.7 my fonts are crystal clear. (A DVI cable helps!) I have anti-aliasing enabled, and sub-pixel rendering to RBG, and hinting style to Medium. I think this is as good as it gets, and the issue has been solved with freetype 2.4 released last year. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307522