Feature changed by: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) Feature #307942, revision 2 Title: change YaST PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT beavier from EXIT to RESTART openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: andrea florio (anubisg1) Description: YaST actually looks to crasch after an installation is end. according to /etc/sysconfig/yast2 # The summary dialog is always displayed when an installation error has occured. so set that value to summary is un-useful, since the only time i need to read a summary is when something fail. i think the best way is just to do as any other package manager i used on debian/ubuntu, mandriva, fedora. just go back to "package search/selection" screen. that means set the value PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT="restart" + Discussion: + #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-10-08 01:17:21) + Any feedback is better then simple exit without any notification what + happened.   + Summary can be helpfull for some cases, but at the moment I test it so + I can't say exactly what is good about it, or even do I want it as + default, but I'm sure I want to see package manager after installation, + as that is both, feedback and what I expect to see. +   + I'm sure that I'm not alone annoyed, when right after system + installation, I look for additional packages, and every time I install + something the dummy exits. Like he knows better what I want. +   -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307942

Feature changed by: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) Feature #307942, revision 4 Title: change YaST PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT behavior from EXIT to RESTART openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: andrea florio (anubisg1) Description: - YaST actually looks to crasch after an installation is end. - according to /etc/sysconfig/yast2 + YaST exit  after a packageinstallation appear as crash. + According to /etc/sysconfig/yast2 # The summary dialog is always displayed when an installation error has occured. - so set that value to summary is un-useful, since the only time i need - to read a summary is when something fail. - i think the best way is just to do as any other package manager i used - on debian/ubuntu, mandriva, fedora. - just go back to "package search/selection" screen. that means set the - value - PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT="restart" + So, set value to summary is not useful, since the only time I need to + read a summary is when something fail. + I think the best solution is to do as any other package manager on + debian/ubuntu, mandriva, fedora, does, + just go back to "package search/selection" screen. +   + That means set as a default PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT="restart" +   Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-10-08 01:17:21) Any feedback is better then simple exit without any notification what happened.   Summary can be helpfull for some cases, but at the moment I test it so I can't say exactly what is good about it, or even do I want it as default, but I'm sure I want to see package manager after installation, as that is both, feedback and what I expect to see.   I'm sure that I'm not alone annoyed, when right after system installation, I look for additional packages, and every time I install something the dummy exits. Like he knows better what I want.   -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307942

Feature changed by: Clayton smaug42 (smaug42) Feature #307942, revision 7 Title: change YaST PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT behavior from EXIT to RESTART openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: andrea florio (anubisg1) Description: YaST exit  after a packageinstallation appear as crash. According to /etc/sysconfig/yast2 # The summary dialog is always displayed when an installation error has occured. So, set value to summary is not useful, since the only time I need to read a summary is when something fail. I think the best solution is to do as any other package manager on debian/ubuntu, mandriva, fedora, does, just go back to "package search/selection" screen.   That means set as a default PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT="restart"   Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-10-08 01:17:21) Any feedback is better then simple exit without any notification what happened.   Summary can be helpfull for some cases, but at the moment I test it so I can't say exactly what is good about it, or even do I want it as default, but I'm sure I want to see package manager after installation, as that is both, feedback and what I expect to see.   I'm sure that I'm not alone annoyed, when right after system installation, I look for additional packages, and every time I install something the dummy exits. Like he knows better what I want.   #2: Dean Hilkewich (deanjo13) (2009-10-08 01:47:03) Absolutely have this the default.  I requested this as soon as I saw the aweful way YaST Package Manager behaved back in 11.1.  I also asked that settings be persistant (such as show debug packages) once set.  The way it is right now it really blows. + #3: Clayton smaug42 (smaug42) (2009-10-08 09:15:28) + Another vote yes.  The questions I get asked most by new users is... + "What just happened to the software installer? Did it work? Why doen't + this work like synaptic?"  Setting the default to a summary would be a + HUGE improvement.  As well... offering an option within the package + manger to toggle the summary off if advanced users don't want it would + be very useful. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307942

Feature changed by: Bidossessi SODONON (bidossessi) Feature #307942, revision 10 Title: change YaST PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT behavior from EXIT to RESTART openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: andrea florio (anubisg1) Description: YaST exit  after a packageinstallation appear as crash. According to /etc/sysconfig/yast2 # The summary dialog is always displayed when an installation error has occured. So, set value to summary is not useful, since the only time I need to read a summary is when something fail. I think the best solution is to do as any other package manager on debian/ubuntu, mandriva, fedora, does, just go back to "package search/selection" screen.   That means set as a default PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT="restart"   Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-10-08 01:17:21) Any feedback is better then simple exit without any notification what happened.   Summary can be helpfull for some cases, but at the moment I test it so I can't say exactly what is good about it, or even do I want it as default, but I'm sure I want to see package manager after installation, as that is both, feedback and what I expect to see.   I'm sure that I'm not alone annoyed, when right after system installation, I look for additional packages, and every time I install something the dummy exits. Like he knows better what I want.   #2: Dean Hilkewich (deanjo13) (2009-10-08 01:47:03) Absolutely have this the default.  I requested this as soon as I saw the aweful way YaST Package Manager behaved back in 11.1.  I also asked that settings be persistant (such as show debug packages) once set.  The way it is right now it really blows. #3: Clayton smaug42 (smaug42) (2009-10-08 09:15:28) Another vote yes.  The questions I get asked most by new users is... "What just happened to the software installer? Did it work? Why doen't this work like synaptic?"  Setting the default to a summary would be a HUGE improvement.  As well... offering an option within the package manger to toggle the summary off if advanced users don't want it would be very useful. #4: Clayton smaug42 (smaug42) (2009-10-08 09:17:25) (reply to #3) Errr.. make that return to the package installer screen not summary : + #5: Bidossessi SODONON (bidossessi) (2009-11-04 11:17:21) + I don't think anything needs to be said about that: + The installer window disappearing, without close request, or feedback, + is not the expected behaviour, in any system , period. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307942

Feature changed by: Satoru Matsumoto (HeliosReds) Feature #307942, revision 13 Title: change YaST PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT behavior from EXIT to RESTART - openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed + openSUSE Distribution: New Priority - Requester: Important + Requester: Desirable Requested by: andrea florio (anubisg1) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: YaST exit  after a packageinstallation appear as crash. According to /etc/sysconfig/yast2 # The summary dialog is always displayed when an installation error has occured. So, set value to summary is not useful, since the only time I need to read a summary is when something fail. I think the best solution is to do as any other package manager on debian/ubuntu, mandriva, fedora, does, just go back to "package search/selection" screen.   That means set as a default PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT="restart"   Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-10-08 01:17:21) Any feedback is better then simple exit without any notification what happened.   Summary can be helpfull for some cases, but at the moment I test it so I can't say exactly what is good about it, or even do I want it as default, but I'm sure I want to see package manager after installation, as that is both, feedback and what I expect to see.   I'm sure that I'm not alone annoyed, when right after system installation, I look for additional packages, and every time I install something the dummy exits. Like he knows better what I want.   #2: Dean Hilkewich (deanjo13) (2009-10-08 01:47:03) Absolutely have this the default.  I requested this as soon as I saw the aweful way YaST Package Manager behaved back in 11.1.  I also asked that settings be persistant (such as show debug packages) once set.  The way it is right now it really blows. #3: Clayton smaug42 (smaug42) (2009-10-08 09:15:28) Another vote yes.  The questions I get asked most by new users is... "What just happened to the software installer? Did it work? Why doen't this work like synaptic?"  Setting the default to a summary would be a HUGE improvement.  As well... offering an option within the package manger to toggle the summary off if advanced users don't want it would be very useful. #4: Clayton smaug42 (smaug42) (2009-10-08 09:17:25) (reply to #3) Errr.. make that return to the package installer screen not summary : #5: Bidossessi SODONON (bidossessi) (2009-11-04 11:17:21) I don't think anything needs to be said about that: The installer window disappearing, without close request, or feedback, is not the expected behaviour, in any system , period. #6: Martin Schlander (cb400f) (2010-06-10 14:56:25) I think the "summary" exit action is more desirable. But anything would be better than the current default of "magical, sudden disappearance". + #7: Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) (2010-12-20 14:44:49) + Since openSUSE 11.3 has been already released, I've changed the target + product from 11.3 to distribution. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307942

Feature changed by: Robert Davies (robopensuse) Feature #307942, revision 15 Title: change YaST PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT behavior from EXIT to RESTART openSUSE Distribution: New Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: andrea florio (anubisg1) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: YaST exit  after a packageinstallation appear as crash. According to /etc/sysconfig/yast2 # The summary dialog is always displayed when an installation error has occured. So, set value to summary is not useful, since the only time I need to read a summary is when something fail. I think the best solution is to do as any other package manager on debian/ubuntu, mandriva, fedora, does, just go back to "package search/selection" screen.   That means set as a default PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT="restart"   Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-10-08 01:17:21) Any feedback is better then simple exit without any notification what happened.   Summary can be helpfull for some cases, but at the moment I test it so I can't say exactly what is good about it, or even do I want it as default, but I'm sure I want to see package manager after installation, as that is both, feedback and what I expect to see.   I'm sure that I'm not alone annoyed, when right after system installation, I look for additional packages, and every time I install something the dummy exits. Like he knows better what I want.   #2: Dean Hilkewich (deanjo13) (2009-10-08 01:47:03) Absolutely have this the default.  I requested this as soon as I saw the aweful way YaST Package Manager behaved back in 11.1.  I also asked that settings be persistant (such as show debug packages) once set.  The way it is right now it really blows. #3: Clayton smaug42 (smaug42) (2009-10-08 09:15:28) Another vote yes.  The questions I get asked most by new users is... "What just happened to the software installer? Did it work? Why doen't this work like synaptic?"  Setting the default to a summary would be a HUGE improvement.  As well... offering an option within the package manger to toggle the summary off if advanced users don't want it would be very useful. #4: Clayton smaug42 (smaug42) (2009-10-08 09:17:25) (reply to #3) Errr.. make that return to the package installer screen not summary : #5: Bidossessi SODONON (bidossessi) (2009-11-04 11:17:21) I don't think anything needs to be said about that: The installer window disappearing, without close request, or feedback, is not the expected behaviour, in any system , period. #6: Martin Schlander (cb400f) (2010-06-10 14:56:25) I think the "summary" exit action is more desirable. But anything would be better than the current default of "magical, sudden disappearance". #7: Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) (2010-12-20 14:44:49) Since openSUSE 11.3 has been already released, I've changed the target product from 11.3 to distribution. #8: andrea florio (anubisg1) (2011-07-10 19:56:17) any news here? + #9: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2011-07-10 22:59:17) + It does "crash out" too suddenly, I have vague memory of it used to + being left on a screen that always showed "SuSEconfig output" which was + non-useful. Either a bug report had it changed (around 11.1 days), or + one of the early Fate's. + What is really wanted, is a Tab logging what was installed & why, the + things that were done, so you could undo them if you made a mistake, + bit like YaST shows you an Installation Summary as a proposal, before + doing it ie selected, required or recommended packages. + With that one can quit, review what happened (but noone cares about + SUSEconfig, unless the output has unexpected errors, so do a diff of + the log!!) or have button to continue package management. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307942

Feature changed by: Felix Miata (mrmazda) Feature #307942, revision 17 Title: change YaST PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT behavior from EXIT to RESTART openSUSE Distribution: New Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: andrea florio (anubisg1) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: YaST exit  after a packageinstallation appear as crash. According to /etc/sysconfig/yast2 # The summary dialog is always displayed when an installation error has occured. So, set value to summary is not useful, since the only time I need to read a summary is when something fail. I think the best solution is to do as any other package manager on debian/ubuntu, mandriva, fedora, does, just go back to "package search/selection" screen.   That means set as a default PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT="restart"   Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-10-08 01:17:21) Any feedback is better then simple exit without any notification what happened.   Summary can be helpfull for some cases, but at the moment I test it so I can't say exactly what is good about it, or even do I want it as default, but I'm sure I want to see package manager after installation, as that is both, feedback and what I expect to see.   I'm sure that I'm not alone annoyed, when right after system installation, I look for additional packages, and every time I install something the dummy exits. Like he knows better what I want.   #10: matthias propst (l1zard) (2011-07-23 18:49:05) (reply to #1) so this would be: PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT="summary" #2: Dean Hilkewich (deanjo13) (2009-10-08 01:47:03) Absolutely have this the default.  I requested this as soon as I saw the aweful way YaST Package Manager behaved back in 11.1.  I also asked that settings be persistant (such as show debug packages) once set.  The way it is right now it really blows. #3: Clayton smaug42 (smaug42) (2009-10-08 09:15:28) Another vote yes.  The questions I get asked most by new users is... "What just happened to the software installer? Did it work? Why doen't this work like synaptic?"  Setting the default to a summary would be a HUGE improvement.  As well... offering an option within the package manger to toggle the summary off if advanced users don't want it would be very useful. #4: Clayton smaug42 (smaug42) (2009-10-08 09:17:25) (reply to #3) Errr.. make that return to the package installer screen not summary : #5: Bidossessi SODONON (bidossessi) (2009-11-04 11:17:21) I don't think anything needs to be said about that: The installer window disappearing, without close request, or feedback, is not the expected behaviour, in any system , period. #6: Martin Schlander (cb400f) (2010-06-10 14:56:25) I think the "summary" exit action is more desirable. But anything would be better than the current default of "magical, sudden disappearance". #7: Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) (2010-12-20 14:44:49) Since openSUSE 11.3 has been already released, I've changed the target product from 11.3 to distribution. #8: andrea florio (anubisg1) (2011-07-10 19:56:17) any news here? #9: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2011-07-10 22:59:17) It does "crash out" too suddenly, I have vague memory of it used to being left on a screen that always showed "SuSEconfig output" which was non-useful. Either a bug report had it changed (around 11.1 days), or one of the early Fate's. What is really wanted, is a Tab logging what was installed & why, the things that were done, so you could undo them if you made a mistake, bit like YaST shows you an Installation Summary as a proposal, before doing it ie selected, required or recommended packages. With that one can quit, review what happened (but noone cares about SUSEconfig, unless the output has unexpected errors, so do a diff of the log!!) or have button to continue package management. + #11: Felix Miata (mrmazda) (2012-07-16 20:27:14) + I always set to summary so that I know that it didn't crash instead of + finishing. To me, restart and close are both bad. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307942

Feature changed by: Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) Feature #307942, revision 19 Title: change YaST PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT behavior from EXIT to RESTART - openSUSE Distribution: New + openSUSE Distribution: Rejected by Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) + reject reason: Changed to "SUMMARY" instead. Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: andrea florio (anubisg1) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: YaST exit  after a packageinstallation appear as crash. According to /etc/sysconfig/yast2 # The summary dialog is always displayed when an installation error has occured. So, set value to summary is not useful, since the only time I need to read a summary is when something fail. I think the best solution is to do as any other package manager on debian/ubuntu, mandriva, fedora, does, just go back to "package search/selection" screen.   That means set as a default PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT="restart"   Relations: - Make Yast2 stay open after installing packages (feature/id: 312750) Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-10-08 01:17:21) Any feedback is better then simple exit without any notification what happened.   Summary can be helpfull for some cases, but at the moment I test it so I can't say exactly what is good about it, or even do I want it as default, but I'm sure I want to see package manager after installation, as that is both, feedback and what I expect to see.   I'm sure that I'm not alone annoyed, when right after system installation, I look for additional packages, and every time I install something the dummy exits. Like he knows better what I want.   #10: matthias propst (l1zard) (2011-07-23 18:49:05) (reply to #1) so this would be: PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT="summary" #2: Dean Hilkewich (deanjo13) (2009-10-08 01:47:03) Absolutely have this the default.  I requested this as soon as I saw the aweful way YaST Package Manager behaved back in 11.1.  I also asked that settings be persistant (such as show debug packages) once set.  The way it is right now it really blows. #3: Clayton smaug42 (smaug42) (2009-10-08 09:15:28) Another vote yes.  The questions I get asked most by new users is... "What just happened to the software installer? Did it work? Why doen't this work like synaptic?"  Setting the default to a summary would be a HUGE improvement.  As well... offering an option within the package manger to toggle the summary off if advanced users don't want it would be very useful. #4: Clayton smaug42 (smaug42) (2009-10-08 09:17:25) (reply to #3) Errr.. make that return to the package installer screen not summary : #5: Bidossessi SODONON (bidossessi) (2009-11-04 11:17:21) I don't think anything needs to be said about that: The installer window disappearing, without close request, or feedback, is not the expected behaviour, in any system , period. #6: Martin Schlander (cb400f) (2010-06-10 14:56:25) I think the "summary" exit action is more desirable. But anything would be better than the current default of "magical, sudden disappearance". #7: Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) (2010-12-20 14:44:49) Since openSUSE 11.3 has been already released, I've changed the target product from 11.3 to distribution. #8: andrea florio (anubisg1) (2011-07-10 19:56:17) any news here? #9: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2011-07-10 22:59:17) It does "crash out" too suddenly, I have vague memory of it used to being left on a screen that always showed "SuSEconfig output" which was non-useful. Either a bug report had it changed (around 11.1 days), or one of the early Fate's. What is really wanted, is a Tab logging what was installed & why, the things that were done, so you could undo them if you made a mistake, bit like YaST shows you an Installation Summary as a proposal, before doing it ie selected, required or recommended packages. With that one can quit, review what happened (but noone cares about SUSEconfig, unless the output has unexpected errors, so do a diff of the log!!) or have button to continue package management. #11: Felix Miata (mrmazda) (2012-07-16 20:27:14) I always set to summary so that I know that it didn't crash instead of finishing. To me, restart and close are both bad. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307942