[New: openFATE 310080] KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4
Feature added by: jimbo bigcreed (Dimble_ThriceFoon) Feature #310080, revision 1 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) Feature #310080, revision 3 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards + Discussion: + #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) + There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for + 11.3. Just not in the update channel -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) Feature #310080, revision 4 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel + #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) + Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems + like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is + stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope + for. + Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in + the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE + repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and + playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper + dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. + I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs + and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use + dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp + thing are much more stable. + So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule + (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... + maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: jimbo bigcreed (Dimble_ThriceFoon) Feature #310080, revision 6 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel + #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to + #1) + this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: jimbo bigcreed (Dimble_ThriceFoon) Feature #310080, revision 7 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. + #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to + #2) + suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of + weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would + like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) Feature #310080, revision 8 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. + #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) + It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look + here: + http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... + (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) + -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: jimbo bigcreed (Dimble_ThriceFoon) Feature #310080, revision 9 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) + #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to + #5) + awesome news, cheers. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: seleko seleko (seleko) Feature #310080, revision 10 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. + #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) + I dont think so. + 11.3 will ship with 4.4. + As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. + Its usual shift. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: jimbo bigcreed (Dimble_ThriceFoon) Feature #310080, revision 11 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. + #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to + #7) + i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his + link refers to 11.3+1. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: jimbo bigcreed (Dimble_ThriceFoon) Feature #310080, revision 14 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. + #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) + any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? + + it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 + 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an + "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? + + openfate seems much less responsive these days. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) Feature #310080, revision 15 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? openfate seems much less responsive these days. + #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) + Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" + KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: jimbo bigcreed (Dimble_ThriceFoon) Feature #310080, revision 16 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? openfate seems much less responsive these days. #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. + #11: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-02 12:53:59) (reply to + #10) + are you suggesting it would be inappropriate for opensuse 11.4 to use KDE + 4.6? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) Feature #310080, revision 18 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? openfate seems much less responsive these days. #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. #11: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-02 12:53:59) (reply to #10) are you suggesting it would be inappropriate for opensuse 11.4 to use KDE 4.6? + #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-09-10 21:41:03) (reply to #10) + You're wrong, openSUSE 11.2 shiped with KDE 4.3.1 (instead of KDE 4.3.2 + which was released a couple of weeks before the openSUSE release). -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: jimbo bigcreed (Dimble_ThriceFoon) Feature #310080, revision 19 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? openfate seems much less responsive these days. + #13: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-19 12:03:24) (reply to + #9) + "hellooooooooooooooo.......................................?" #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. #11: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-02 12:53:59) (reply to #10) are you suggesting it would be inappropriate for opensuse 11.4 to use KDE 4.6? #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-09-10 21:41:03) (reply to #10) You're wrong, openSUSE 11.2 shiped with KDE 4.3.1 (instead of KDE 4.3.2 which was released a couple of weeks before the openSUSE release). -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: Сергей Миронов (serg0) Feature #310080, revision 20 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? openfate seems much less responsive these days. #13: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-19 12:03:24) (reply to #9) "hellooooooooooooooo.......................................?" #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. #11: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-02 12:53:59) (reply to #10) are you suggesting it would be inappropriate for opensuse 11.4 to use KDE 4.6? #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-09-10 21:41:03) (reply to #10) You're wrong, openSUSE 11.2 shiped with KDE 4.3.1 (instead of KDE 4.3.2 which was released a couple of weeks before the openSUSE release). + #14: Сергей Миронов (serg0) (2010-09-19 18:47:08) + I think it does not matter which version of KDE will be installed on + openSUSE 11.4. Most important is stability reason. I vote against this + feature. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: Denny Beyer (lumnis) Feature #310080, revision 21 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? openfate seems much less responsive these days. #13: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-19 12:03:24) (reply to #9) "hellooooooooooooooo.......................................?" #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. #11: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-02 12:53:59) (reply to #10) are you suggesting it would be inappropriate for opensuse 11.4 to use KDE 4.6? #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-09-10 21:41:03) (reply to #10) You're wrong, openSUSE 11.2 shiped with KDE 4.3.1 (instead of KDE 4.3.2 which was released a couple of weeks before the openSUSE release). #14: Сергей Миронов (serg0) (2010-09-19 18:47:08) I think it does not matter which version of KDE will be installed on openSUSE 11.4. Most important is stability reason. I vote against this feature. + #15: Denny Beyer (lumnis) (2010-09-29 10:23:22) + talking about stability: + Every new version adds stability kde4 desparately needs for several + versions now, and opensuse as one of the (if not THE) major kde + distribution has damaged it's reputation because of that. + Another one regarding stability: + Did anybody not voting for this issue use Kontact recently? + Mail/Address/Calendar is a core functionality that needs to be working + and the only way i see to get this is by moving on to 4.6, hoping that + the kdepim team will stick to their dev plans and get that properly up + and running by the 4.6 release. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: jimbo bigcreed (Dimble_ThriceFoon) Feature #310080, revision 23 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? openfate seems much less responsive these days. #13: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-19 12:03:24) (reply to #9) "hellooooooooooooooo.......................................?" #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. #11: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-02 12:53:59) (reply to #10) are you suggesting it would be inappropriate for opensuse 11.4 to use KDE 4.6? #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-09-10 21:41:03) (reply to #10) You're wrong, openSUSE 11.2 shiped with KDE 4.3.1 (instead of KDE 4.3.2 which was released a couple of weeks before the openSUSE release). #14: Сергей Миронов (serg0) (2010-09-19 18:47:08) I think it does not matter which version of KDE will be installed on openSUSE 11.4. Most important is stability reason. I vote against this feature. #15: Denny Beyer (lumnis) (2010-09-29 10:23:22) talking about stability: Every new version adds stability kde4 desparately needs for several versions now, and opensuse as one of the (if not THE) major kde distribution has damaged it's reputation because of that. Another one regarding stability: Did anybody not voting for this issue use Kontact recently? Mail/Address/Calendar is a core functionality that needs to be working and the only way i see to get this is by moving on to 4.6, hoping that the kdepim team will stick to their dev plans and get that properly up and running by the 4.6 release. + #16: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-29 12:17:19) (reply to + #15) + agreed. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: jimbo bigcreed (Dimble_ThriceFoon) Feature #310080, revision 27 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? openfate seems much less responsive these days. #13: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-19 12:03:24) (reply to #9) "hellooooooooooooooo.......................................?" #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. #11: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-02 12:53:59) (reply to #10) are you suggesting it would be inappropriate for opensuse 11.4 to use KDE 4.6? #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-09-10 21:41:03) (reply to #10) You're wrong, openSUSE 11.2 shiped with KDE 4.3.1 (instead of KDE 4.3.2 which was released a couple of weeks before the openSUSE release). #14: Сергей Миронов (serg0) (2010-09-19 18:47:08) I think it does not matter which version of KDE will be installed on openSUSE 11.4. Most important is stability reason. I vote against this feature. #15: Denny Beyer (lumnis) (2010-09-29 10:23:22) talking about stability: Every new version adds stability kde4 desparately needs for several versions now, and opensuse as one of the (if not THE) major kde distribution has damaged it's reputation because of that. Another one regarding stability: Did anybody not voting for this issue use Kontact recently? Mail/Address/Calendar is a core functionality that needs to be working and the only way i see to get this is by moving on to 4.6, hoping that the kdepim team will stick to their dev plans and get that properly up and running by the 4.6 release. #16: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-29 12:17:19) (reply to #15) agreed. + #17: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-10-21 10:58:50) + http://www.mail-archive.com/release-team@kde.org/msg03829.html + + * Thu, Jan 20 2011, openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 6 release + * Thu, Feb 10 2011, openSUSE 11.4 RC 1 release -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #310080, revision 28 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 - openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. - Kind regards - - Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) - #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? - it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? - openfate seems much less responsive these days. #13: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-19 12:03:24) (reply to #9) "hellooooooooooooooo.......................................?" #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. #11: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-02 12:53:59) (reply to #10) are you suggesting it would be inappropriate for opensuse 11.4 to use KDE 4.6? #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-09-10 21:41:03) (reply to #10) You're wrong, openSUSE 11.2 shiped with KDE 4.3.1 (instead of KDE 4.3.2 which was released a couple of weeks before the openSUSE release). #14: Сергей Миронов (serg0) (2010-09-19 18:47:08) I think it does not matter which version of KDE will be installed on openSUSE 11.4. Most important is stability reason. I vote against this feature. #15: Denny Beyer (lumnis) (2010-09-29 10:23:22) talking about stability: Every new version adds stability kde4 desparately needs for several versions now, and opensuse as one of the (if not THE) major kde distribution has damaged it's reputation because of that. Another one regarding stability: Did anybody not voting for this issue use Kontact recently? Mail/Address/Calendar is a core functionality that needs to be working and the only way i see to get this is by moving on to 4.6, hoping that the kdepim team will stick to their dev plans and get that properly up and running by the 4.6 release. #16: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-29 12:17:19) (reply to #15) agreed. #17: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-10-21 10:58:50) http://www.mail-archive.com/release-team@kde.org/msg03829.html - * Thu, Jan 20 2011, openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 6 release * Thu, Feb 10 2011, openSUSE 11.4 RC 1 release -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #310080, revision 31 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 - openSUSE-11.4: New + openSUSE-11.4: Done Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? openfate seems much less responsive these days. #13: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-19 12:03:24) (reply to #9) "hellooooooooooooooo.......................................?" #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. #11: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-02 12:53:59) (reply to #10) are you suggesting it would be inappropriate for opensuse 11.4 to use KDE 4.6? #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-09-10 21:41:03) (reply to #10) You're wrong, openSUSE 11.2 shiped with KDE 4.3.1 (instead of KDE 4.3.2 which was released a couple of weeks before the openSUSE release). #14: Сергей Миронов (serg0) (2010-09-19 18:47:08) I think it does not matter which version of KDE will be installed on openSUSE 11.4. Most important is stability reason. I vote against this feature. #15: Denny Beyer (lumnis) (2010-09-29 10:23:22) talking about stability: Every new version adds stability kde4 desparately needs for several versions now, and opensuse as one of the (if not THE) major kde distribution has damaged it's reputation because of that. Another one regarding stability: Did anybody not voting for this issue use Kontact recently? Mail/Address/Calendar is a core functionality that needs to be working and the only way i see to get this is by moving on to 4.6, hoping that the kdepim team will stick to their dev plans and get that properly up and running by the 4.6 release. #16: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-29 12:17:19) (reply to #15) agreed. #17: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-10-21 10:58:50) http://www.mail-archive.com/release-team@kde.org/msg03829.html * Thu, Jan 20 2011, openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 6 release * Thu, Feb 10 2011, openSUSE 11.4 RC 1 release -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: Alex Bars (alexdbars) Feature #310080, revision 32 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Done Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? openfate seems much less responsive these days. #13: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-19 12:03:24) (reply to #9) "hellooooooooooooooo.......................................?" #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. #11: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-02 12:53:59) (reply to #10) are you suggesting it would be inappropriate for opensuse 11.4 to use KDE 4.6? #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-09-10 21:41:03) (reply to #10) You're wrong, openSUSE 11.2 shiped with KDE 4.3.1 (instead of KDE 4.3.2 which was released a couple of weeks before the openSUSE release). #14: Сергей Миронов (serg0) (2010-09-19 18:47:08) I think it does not matter which version of KDE will be installed on openSUSE 11.4. Most important is stability reason. I vote against this feature. #15: Denny Beyer (lumnis) (2010-09-29 10:23:22) talking about stability: Every new version adds stability kde4 desparately needs for several versions now, and opensuse as one of the (if not THE) major kde distribution has damaged it's reputation because of that. Another one regarding stability: Did anybody not voting for this issue use Kontact recently? Mail/Address/Calendar is a core functionality that needs to be working and the only way i see to get this is by moving on to 4.6, hoping that the kdepim team will stick to their dev plans and get that properly up and running by the 4.6 release. #16: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-29 12:17:19) (reply to #15) agreed. + #18: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-11-30 22:24:15) (reply to #15) + Running natively 11.4, nepomuk always throw an error, but I hope the + new version come with 4.6! #17: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-10-21 10:58:50) http://www.mail-archive.com/release-team@kde.org/msg03829.html * Thu, Jan 20 2011, openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 6 release * Thu, Feb 10 2011, openSUSE 11.4 RC 1 release -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: Sławomir Lach (Lachu) Feature #310080, revision 35 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Done Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) + Requested by: Sławomir Lach (lachu) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? openfate seems much less responsive these days. #13: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-19 12:03:24) (reply to #9) "hellooooooooooooooo.......................................?" #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. #11: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-02 12:53:59) (reply to #10) are you suggesting it would be inappropriate for opensuse 11.4 to use KDE 4.6? #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-09-10 21:41:03) (reply to #10) You're wrong, openSUSE 11.2 shiped with KDE 4.3.1 (instead of KDE 4.3.2 which was released a couple of weeks before the openSUSE release). #14: Сергей Миронов (serg0) (2010-09-19 18:47:08) I think it does not matter which version of KDE will be installed on openSUSE 11.4. Most important is stability reason. I vote against this feature. #15: Denny Beyer (lumnis) (2010-09-29 10:23:22) talking about stability: Every new version adds stability kde4 desparately needs for several versions now, and opensuse as one of the (if not THE) major kde distribution has damaged it's reputation because of that. Another one regarding stability: Did anybody not voting for this issue use Kontact recently? Mail/Address/Calendar is a core functionality that needs to be working and the only way i see to get this is by moving on to 4.6, hoping that the kdepim team will stick to their dev plans and get that properly up and running by the 4.6 release. #16: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-29 12:17:19) (reply to #15) agreed. #18: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-11-30 22:24:15) (reply to #15) Running natively 11.4, nepomuk always throw an error, but I hope the new version come with 4.6! #17: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-10-21 10:58:50) http://www.mail-archive.com/release-team@kde.org/msg03829.html * Thu, Jan 20 2011, openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 6 release * Thu, Feb 10 2011, openSUSE 11.4 RC 1 release -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: Sławomir Lach (Lachu) Feature #310080, revision 36 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Done Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Requested by: Sławomir Lach (lachu) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? openfate seems much less responsive these days. #13: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-19 12:03:24) (reply to #9) "hellooooooooooooooo.......................................?" #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. #11: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-02 12:53:59) (reply to #10) are you suggesting it would be inappropriate for opensuse 11.4 to use KDE 4.6? #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-09-10 21:41:03) (reply to #10) You're wrong, openSUSE 11.2 shiped with KDE 4.3.1 (instead of KDE 4.3.2 which was released a couple of weeks before the openSUSE release). #14: Сергей Миронов (serg0) (2010-09-19 18:47:08) I think it does not matter which version of KDE will be installed on openSUSE 11.4. Most important is stability reason. I vote against this feature. #15: Denny Beyer (lumnis) (2010-09-29 10:23:22) talking about stability: Every new version adds stability kde4 desparately needs for several versions now, and opensuse as one of the (if not THE) major kde distribution has damaged it's reputation because of that. Another one regarding stability: Did anybody not voting for this issue use Kontact recently? Mail/Address/Calendar is a core functionality that needs to be working and the only way i see to get this is by moving on to 4.6, hoping that the kdepim team will stick to their dev plans and get that properly up and running by the 4.6 release. #16: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-29 12:17:19) (reply to #15) agreed. #18: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-11-30 22:24:15) (reply to #15) Running natively 11.4, nepomuk always throw an error, but I hope the new version come with 4.6! #17: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-10-21 10:58:50) http://www.mail-archive.com/release-team@kde.org/msg03829.html * Thu, Jan 20 2011, openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 6 release * Thu, Feb 10 2011, openSUSE 11.4 RC 1 release + #19: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-12-12 15:11:46) + I'm using KDESC 4.6 beta 1 and KDESC 4.6 beta 2 on my OpenSUSE 11.3 and + older KDESC 4.6 than beta 1 on VirtualBox with OpenSUSE 11.4 . Every + think works fine and some oddest bug present in KDESC 4.5 are removed. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
Feature changed by: Sławomir Lach (Lachu) Feature #310080, revision 37 Title: KDE 4.6 for opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Done Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Requested by: Sławomir Lach (lachu) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: I realise we are using a time based release, and no longer chase feature releases, but 11.3 will ship with KDE 4.4 when 4.5 will ship three weeks later. I realise you don't just drop in an entirely new DE version a week before opensuse hits RC, but it would be a crying shame for two releases in a row, eight months apart, both to use an 'old' major release of KDE. For this reason I would be very keen to look at the KDE 4.6 release schedule (should be end of january), and see if we cannot plan to include it in opensuse 11.4 (which in theory is due end of february at the earliest). Were it possible to get 4.6.1 for point release stability that would be even better. Kind regards Discussion: #1: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2010-07-06 19:33:41) There will without a doubt be repos for 4.5 and 4.6 when its ready for 11.3. Just not in the update channel #3: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:48:20) (reply to #1) this is a request for 11.4, not 11.3. :) #2: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2010-07-07 00:16:30) Which is all well and good, but that only works for savvy users...seems like it would be better as a whole to ship with it, but if suse is stuck in time cycles I guess that the repositories is all we can hope for. Another thought then...where it gives the instructions for upgrading in the wiki and the one-click install...perhaps add all three Factory KDE repositories...I believe they are the community, factory desktop, and playground (or at least the first two) and explain that using zypper dup (or related feature through gui) would be a good idea. I have found that upgrading purely by the one-click produces odd bugs and they change over time as other packages are updated, but if I use dup to switch over ALL kde packages not just the ones listed in ymp thing are much more stable. So if suse is going to stick to ignoring the KDE release schedule (which is fine) then perhaps we can make the manual upgrade better... maybe even suggest it through the upgrade channel or something. #4: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-08 18:50:22) (reply to #2) suse is stuck in time cycles, but it has proven to be flexible on a scale of weeks, and given that there there is already a month of 'play' I would like it to be considered a core target for 11.4. #5: Dawid Wróbel (cromka) (2010-07-12 22:26:21) It has been already confirmed that 11.3 will ship with 4.6. Have a look here: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us... (http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/attention-opensuse-kde-factory-us...) #6: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-13 18:47:00) (reply to #5) awesome news, cheers. #7: seleko seleko (seleko) (2010-07-14 12:33:49) (reply to #5) I dont think so. 11.3 will ship with 4.4. As it will ship, 4.4 comes to stable, 4.5 -> Factory. Its usual shift. #8: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-07-17 14:33:17) (reply to #7) i believe he meant 11.4, given that this topic is about 11.4, and his link refers to 11.3+1. #9: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-08-31 14:48:45) any news on this? confirmed, rejected, deferred, etc............? it has been there for two months now give or take, and in the top 20 11.4 requests for nearly as long, surely it merits either an "evaluation" or a "rejected" by this point? openfate seems much less responsive these days. #13: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-19 12:03:24) (reply to #9) "hellooooooooooooooo.......................................?" #10: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-09-02 09:09:40) Too bleeding edge. I really like how openSUSE has been using "outdated" KDE with 4.x.y, where y > 3, meaning stability has been great. #11: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-02 12:53:59) (reply to #10) are you suggesting it would be inappropriate for opensuse 11.4 to use KDE 4.6? #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-09-10 21:41:03) (reply to #10) You're wrong, openSUSE 11.2 shiped with KDE 4.3.1 (instead of KDE 4.3.2 which was released a couple of weeks before the openSUSE release). #14: Сергей Миронов (serg0) (2010-09-19 18:47:08) I think it does not matter which version of KDE will be installed on openSUSE 11.4. Most important is stability reason. I vote against this feature. #15: Denny Beyer (lumnis) (2010-09-29 10:23:22) talking about stability: Every new version adds stability kde4 desparately needs for several versions now, and opensuse as one of the (if not THE) major kde distribution has damaged it's reputation because of that. Another one regarding stability: Did anybody not voting for this issue use Kontact recently? Mail/Address/Calendar is a core functionality that needs to be working and the only way i see to get this is by moving on to 4.6, hoping that the kdepim team will stick to their dev plans and get that properly up and running by the 4.6 release. #16: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-09-29 12:17:19) (reply to #15) agreed. #18: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-11-30 22:24:15) (reply to #15) Running natively 11.4, nepomuk always throw an error, but I hope the new version come with 4.6! #17: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2010-10-21 10:58:50) http://www.mail-archive.com/release-team@kde.org/msg03829.html * Thu, Jan 20 2011, openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 6 release * Thu, Feb 10 2011, openSUSE 11.4 RC 1 release #19: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-12-12 15:11:46) I'm using KDESC 4.6 beta 1 and KDESC 4.6 beta 2 on my OpenSUSE 11.3 and older KDESC 4.6 than beta 1 on VirtualBox with OpenSUSE 11.4 . Every think works fine and some oddest bug present in KDESC 4.5 are removed. + #20: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-12-12 15:13:09) (reply to #19) + It's not real matter for me - I will update my system to 11.4 version, + but ... What if some think happens wrong? I will made new installation, + so I must prepare to install KDESC 4.6 and download 1GiB of data. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310080
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