Feature changed by: Detlef Wiese (dewiese) Feature #312322, revision 2 Title: cups-pdf Drucker wieder per default installieren openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Karl Sinn (karlsinn) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Hi, I think that openSUSE should install a pdf-printer as default again. All the best Karl + Discussion: + #1: Detlef Wiese (dewiese) (2011-05-10 18:01:08) + That's a very good idea, eg if you want to 'print' website from the + browser or just don't want use another application to creat a PDF from + your work. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/312322

Feature changed by: Hans de Raad (hcderaad) Feature #312322, revision 5 Title: cups-pdf Drucker wieder per default installieren openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Karl Sinn (karlsinn) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Hi, I think that openSUSE should install a pdf-printer as default again. All the best Karl Discussion: #1: Detlef Wiese (dewiese) (2011-05-10 18:01:08) That's a very good idea, eg if you want to 'print' website from the browser or just don't want use another application to creat a PDF from your work. #2: Johannes Meixner (jsmeix) (2011-05-11 10:16:29) See http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Printing_to_PDF (http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Printing_to_PDF) for information. There is a fundamental difference between making a PDF file from applications or from the desktop versus having a workaround via a print queue which results PDF files in a special directory. Regarding making a PDF file from applications or from the desktop: I don't know if something may have changed in applications (browsers, OpenOffice, LibreOffice, ...) or in the desktops (Gnome, KDE3, KDE4, ...) where such a functionality was available but is now no longer available. If this is the acutal reason for this feature request, please file either bug reports or feature requests for the particular applications or desktops which can no longer make PDFs. For example on my openSUSE 11.4 KDE4 desktop I have in the print menue of "kwrite" the two entries "Print to File (PDF)" and "Print to File (Postscript)" so that at least in this example the desktop still provides this functionality. Regarding the workaround via a print queue: The workaround via a print queue never was set up automatically and never will be set up by default because of the possible (security) issues, read the information, see the URL above. According to "osc search --package cups-pdf | grep -v ^home" the package "cups-pdf" which provides the software for the workaround via a print queue (in particular a CUPS backend which must run as root) was never included in the official openSUSE distribution. + #3: Hans de Raad (hcderaad) (2011-05-11 16:22:30) + I do agree with all the reasons stated in the SDB article on why the + CUPS-route isnt a very wise idea on multiusersystems (therefor any + system), but still, from the article: "Depending on which desktop + system (in particular Gnome versus KDE) is installed and depending on + which version of the desktop system is used and depending on which + additional packages are installed, the desktop system may already + provide a Print to PDF or Save as PDF functionality " Counting: 3x + "depending on" and 1x "may already provide", that really doesnt sound + promising at all. + Although both GNOME and KDE have means to achieve this, it would be a + blessing to be able to use a uniform method (or at least a fallback + scenario). -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/312322

Feature changed by: Johannes Meixner (jsmeix) Feature #312322, revision 8 - Title: cups-pdf Drucker wieder per default installieren + Title: Install virtual "PDF printer" via cups-pdf by default openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Karl Sinn (karlsinn) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Hi, I think that openSUSE should install a pdf-printer as default again. All the best Karl Discussion: #1: Detlef Wiese (dewiese) (2011-05-10 18:01:08) That's a very good idea, eg if you want to 'print' website from the browser or just don't want use another application to creat a PDF from your work. #2: Johannes Meixner (jsmeix) (2011-05-11 10:16:29) See http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Printing_to_PDF (http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Printing_to_PDF) for information. There is a fundamental difference between making a PDF file from applications or from the desktop versus having a workaround via a print queue which results PDF files in a special directory. Regarding making a PDF file from applications or from the desktop: I don't know if something may have changed in applications (browsers, OpenOffice, LibreOffice, ...) or in the desktops (Gnome, KDE3, KDE4, ...) where such a functionality was available but is now no longer available. If this is the acutal reason for this feature request, please file either bug reports or feature requests for the particular applications or desktops which can no longer make PDFs. For example on my openSUSE 11.4 KDE4 desktop I have in the print menue of "kwrite" the two entries "Print to File (PDF)" and "Print to File (Postscript)" so that at least in this example the desktop still provides this functionality. Regarding the workaround via a print queue: The workaround via a print queue never was set up automatically and never will be set up by default because of the possible (security) issues, read the information, see the URL above. According to "osc search --package cups-pdf | grep -v ^home" the package "cups-pdf" which provides the software for the workaround via a print queue (in particular a CUPS backend which must run as root) was never included in the official openSUSE distribution. #3: Hans de Raad (hcderaad) (2011-05-11 16:22:30) I do agree with all the reasons stated in the SDB article on why the CUPS-route isnt a very wise idea on multiusersystems (therefor any system), but still, from the article: "Depending on which desktop system (in particular Gnome versus KDE) is installed and depending on which version of the desktop system is used and depending on which additional packages are installed, the desktop system may already provide a Print to PDF or Save as PDF functionality " Counting: 3x "depending on" and 1x "may already provide", that really doesnt sound promising at all. Although both GNOME and KDE have means to achieve this, it would be a blessing to be able to use a uniform method (or at least a fallback scenario). #4: Tim Edwards (tk83) (2011-05-18 22:55:16) As Johannes Meixner pointed out most apps already have this functionality without requiring going down the hacky route of having a CUPS pdf 'printer' setup. It just looks complicated (and therefore buggy) and exposes the system to all sorts of potential security issues, Opensuse should ship as secure as is reasonable for a desktop system. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/312322

Feature changed by: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) Feature #312322, revision 11 Title: Install virtual "PDF printer" via cups-pdf by default openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Karl Sinn (karlsinn) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Hi, I think that openSUSE should install a pdf-printer as default again. All the best Karl Discussion: #1: Detlef Wiese (dewiese) (2011-05-10 18:01:08) That's a very good idea, eg if you want to 'print' website from the browser or just don't want use another application to creat a PDF from your work. #2: Johannes Meixner (jsmeix) (2011-05-11 10:16:29) See http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Printing_to_PDF (http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Printing_to_PDF) for information. There is a fundamental difference between making a PDF file from applications or from the desktop versus having a workaround via a print queue which results PDF files in a special directory. Regarding making a PDF file from applications or from the desktop: I don't know if something may have changed in applications (browsers, OpenOffice, LibreOffice, ...) or in the desktops (Gnome, KDE3, KDE4, ...) where such a functionality was available but is now no longer available. If this is the acutal reason for this feature request, please file either bug reports or feature requests for the particular applications or desktops which can no longer make PDFs. For example on my openSUSE 11.4 KDE4 desktop I have in the print menue of "kwrite" the two entries "Print to File (PDF)" and "Print to File (Postscript)" so that at least in this example the desktop still provides this functionality. Regarding the workaround via a print queue: The workaround via a print queue never was set up automatically and never will be set up by default because of the possible (security) issues, read the information, see the URL above. According to "osc search --package cups-pdf | grep -v ^home" the package "cups-pdf" which provides the software for the workaround via a print queue (in particular a CUPS backend which must run as root) was never included in the official openSUSE distribution. #3: Hans de Raad (hcderaad) (2011-05-11 16:22:30) I do agree with all the reasons stated in the SDB article on why the CUPS-route isnt a very wise idea on multiusersystems (therefor any system), but still, from the article: "Depending on which desktop system (in particular Gnome versus KDE) is installed and depending on which version of the desktop system is used and depending on which additional packages are installed, the desktop system may already provide a Print to PDF or Save as PDF functionality " Counting: 3x "depending on" and 1x "may already provide", that really doesnt sound promising at all. Although both GNOME and KDE have means to achieve this, it would be a blessing to be able to use a uniform method (or at least a fallback scenario). #5: Jedi Beeftrix (jedibeeftrix) (2011-08-16 14:37:00) (reply to #3) "Although both GNOME and KDE have means to achieve this, it would be a blessing to be able to use a uniform method" agreed. #4: Tim Edwards (tk83) (2011-05-18 22:55:16) As Johannes Meixner pointed out most apps already have this functionality without requiring going down the hacky route of having a CUPS pdf 'printer' setup. It just looks complicated (and therefore buggy) and exposes the system to all sorts of potential security issues, Opensuse should ship as secure as is reasonable for a desktop system. + #6: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2011-08-20 16:11:58) (reply to #4) + It seems possible to tweak cups-pdf to send emails instead, eliminating + having to require root status and write permission to user home + directories. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/312322