Feature changed by: Timothy Butterworth (TimButterworth) Feature #312755, revision 2 Title: Overhaul and simplification of configuration for multilanguage support Buildservice: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Timothy Butterworth (timbutterworth) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: As more and more user's require multilingual support it would be great if the installer and YaST2 were overhauled to provide this setup with ease based on the latest available fonts and input managers. Currently their are some settings like adding a second language available in YaST2. The Language bar is also useful. It would be really great if their was a simple way to configure this from install or YaST2 with support for KDE4 keyboard layouts. Their are a number of problems users run into currently. First their does not seem to be a good how to guide. Secondly SKIM/SCIM packages in openSUSE 11.4 do not seem to support GTK3/QT4. SKIM is still built for KDE3/QT3 and needs to have QT4 front end tools: language bar/ tray icon / plasma widget and support for GTK3/QT4 input. Third many users run into issues configuring the env variables in bash. Fourth ibus - ibus defaults to GTK. It would be great if two packages existed one compiled for QT4 and one for GTK3. Fifth uim also has issues and I have not been able to get it to work with QT4 either. Their are of course many other input methods as well. It would be great as KDE4 is the default install choice to have tools setup to work with KDE4 system config, keyboard layouts for ease of configuration. Also env LANG and LANGUAGE do not change the local settings in all KDE4 apps and this must be completed through the KDE4 configure desktop > local configuration tool. Currently YaST2 local configures the entire system instead of an individual user. This should be expanded with a means change individual user accounts as many systems may be used by individuals who's native language may be different. This would be a great feature for openSUSE Edu as well. bottom line: input method selection should be simplified through software wizard or how to guide. SKIM/SCIM need GTK3/QT4 support. The later is available on Ubuntu and has been for quite a while. Thank You + Discussion: + #1: Timothy Butterworth (timbutterworth) (2011-08-20 06:50:00) + Some discussions from the openSUSE forum: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/4643... + http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-logi... + http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/4626... + http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-logi... -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/312755

Feature changed by: Hendrik Vogelsang (hennevogel) Feature #312755, revision 4 Title: Overhaul and simplification of configuration for multilanguage support - Buildservice: Unconfirmed + openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority - Requester: Important + Requester: Desirable Requested by: Timothy Butterworth (timbutterworth) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: As more and more user's require multilingual support it would be great if the installer and YaST2 were overhauled to provide this setup with ease based on the latest available fonts and input managers. Currently their are some settings like adding a second language available in YaST2. The Language bar is also useful. It would be really great if their was a simple way to configure this from install or YaST2 with support for KDE4 keyboard layouts. Their are a number of problems users run into currently. First their does not seem to be a good how to guide. Secondly SKIM/SCIM packages in openSUSE 11.4 do not seem to support GTK3/QT4. SKIM is still built for KDE3/QT3 and needs to have QT4 front end tools: language bar/ tray icon / plasma widget and support for GTK3/QT4 input. Third many users run into issues configuring the env variables in bash. Fourth ibus - ibus defaults to GTK. It would be great if two packages existed one compiled for QT4 and one for GTK3. Fifth uim also has issues and I have not been able to get it to work with QT4 either. Their are of course many other input methods as well. It would be great as KDE4 is the default install choice to have tools setup to work with KDE4 system config, keyboard layouts for ease of configuration. Also env LANG and LANGUAGE do not change the local settings in all KDE4 apps and this must be completed through the KDE4 configure desktop > local configuration tool. Currently YaST2 local configures the entire system instead of an individual user. This should be expanded with a means change individual user accounts as many systems may be used by individuals who's native language may be different. This would be a great feature for openSUSE Edu as well. bottom line: input method selection should be simplified through software wizard or how to guide. SKIM/SCIM need GTK3/QT4 support. The later is available on Ubuntu and has been for quite a while. Thank You Discussion: #1: Timothy Butterworth (timbutterworth) (2011-08-20 06:50:00) Some discussions from the openSUSE forum: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/4643... http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-logi... http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/4626... http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-logi... #2: Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) (2011-08-27 05:47:16) I can agree with most of what you have pointed out. However, there are only few who will/can solve the problems and implement these features ATM. As you can suppose, people who speak English usually don't care about multilingualization much. That's why these issues left undone. If you are interested in multilingual support, I'd appreciate it if you will subscribe to opensuse-m17n mailinglist and be involved in M17N project, where people who want to improve m17n support gather. ;-) -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/312755