[New: openFATE 313411] New mechanism to install locale-specific packages
Feature added by: Fuminobu Takeyama (ftake) Feature #313411, revision 1 Title: New mechanism to install locale-specific packages openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Fuminobu Takeyama (ftake) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Some packages shipped with openSUSE are locale-specific packages. These packages are essential for non-English users. Current mechanism to install such packages is YaST's language setting module. However, it has problems like: * All of locale-specific packages are installed. We cannot select part of them. * If we use "zypper inr", other recommended packages are also installed. * It start to install packages suddenly after clicking OK without any messages. We cannot cancel. My feature request is improvement of installation mechanism for these packages. First of all, local-specific packages are classified into two types: * (a) translation * (b) input methods, fonts Since these types have different property each other, I think we should prepare new mechanisms for each type. For (a): A new button "Install translation packages" on the language setting modue A translation package contains transrated messages and it is created for each application or library. Since it is hard to install translations one by one for install packages, we need a special treat. The language setting module should not install automatically after changing locale. It should start to install after this button. If possible, we should support to install such packages for multiple (selected) locales and uninstall (unselected) ones. A new command corresponding to the button above for zypper like: $ zypper install-new-reccomends -t translations or $ zypper install-translations ja Add tags to translation packages like: provides: translation(zh) provides: translation(ja) provides: translation(kr) We should not describe like: provides: translation(zh;ja;kr) because we cannot search from "zypper search". For (b): New patterns that contains locale-specific packages The other type of language-specific packages can be installed relatively easily. Users can understand what packages are provided for the locale which they use. To install all of recommended packages as before, they just install a pattern like locale-ja. Another approach is welcome to fix these problem. How do you think? Related bugs: * https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722739 * https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721810 -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/313411
Feature changed by: Satoru Matsumoto (HeliosReds) Feature #313411, revision 2 Title: New mechanism to install locale-specific packages - openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed + openSUSE Distribution: Duplicate of #313412 + Master status: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Fuminobu Takeyama (ftake) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Some packages shipped with openSUSE are locale-specific packages. These packages are essential for non-English users. Current mechanism to install such packages is YaST's language setting module. However, it has problems like: * All of locale-specific packages are installed. We cannot select part of them. * If we use "zypper inr", other recommended packages are also installed. * It start to install packages suddenly after clicking OK without any messages. We cannot cancel. My feature request is improvement of installation mechanism for these packages. First of all, local-specific packages are classified into two types: * (a) translation * (b) input methods, fonts Since these types have different property each other, I think we should prepare new mechanisms for each type. For (a): A new button "Install translation packages" on the language setting modue A translation package contains transrated messages and it is created for each application or library. Since it is hard to install translations one by one for install packages, we need a special treat. The language setting module should not install automatically after changing locale. It should start to install after this button. If possible, we should support to install such packages for multiple (selected) locales and uninstall (unselected) ones. A new command corresponding to the button above for zypper like: $ zypper install-new-reccomends -t translations or $ zypper install- translations ja Add tags to translation packages like: provides: translation(zh) provides: translation(ja) provides: translation(kr) We should not describe like: provides: translation(zh;ja;kr) because we cannot search from "zypper search". For (b): New patterns that contains locale-specific packages The other type of language-specific packages can be installed relatively easily. Users can understand what packages are provided for the locale which they use. To install all of recommended packages as before, they just install a pattern like locale-ja. Another approach is welcome to fix these problem. How do you think? Related bugs: * https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722739 * https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721810 + Relations: + - (feature/duplicate: 313412) -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/313411
Feature changed by: Fuminobu Takeyama (ftake) Feature #313411, revision 3 Title: New mechanism to install locale-specific packages openSUSE Distribution: Duplicate of #313412 Master status: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Fuminobu Takeyama (ftake) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: + I'm sorry. I posted the same feature request twice. Please remove this + request. + The other request is here: https://features.opensuse.org/313412 Some packages shipped with openSUSE are locale-specific packages. These packages are essential for non-English users. Current mechanism to install such packages is YaST's language setting module. However, it has problems like: * All of locale-specific packages are installed. We cannot select part of them. * If we use "zypper inr", other recommended packages are also installed. * It start to install packages suddenly after clicking OK without any messages. We cannot cancel. My feature request is improvement of installation mechanism for these packages. First of all, local-specific packages are classified into two types: * (a) translation * (b) input methods, fonts Since these types have different property each other, I think we should prepare new mechanisms for each type. For (a): A new button "Install translation packages" on the language setting modue A translation package contains transrated messages and it is created for each application or library. Since it is hard to install translations one by one for install packages, we need a special treat. The language setting module should not install automatically after changing locale. It should start to install after this button. If possible, we should support to install such packages for multiple (selected) locales and uninstall (unselected) ones. A new command corresponding to the button above for zypper like: $ zypper install-new-reccomends -t translations or $ zypper install- translations ja Add tags to translation packages like: provides: translation(zh) provides: translation(ja) provides: translation(kr) We should not describe like: provides: translation(zh;ja;kr) because we cannot search from "zypper search". For (b): New patterns that contains locale-specific packages The other type of language-specific packages can be installed relatively easily. Users can understand what packages are provided for the locale which they use. To install all of recommended packages as before, they just install a pattern like locale-ja. Another approach is welcome to fix these problem. How do you think? Related bugs: * https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722739 * https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721810 Relations: - (feature/duplicate: 313412) -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/313411
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