Feature changed by: Jean-Daniel Dodin (jdd) Feature #311244, revision 2 Title: install time enhancement for partitionner openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Jean-Daniel Dodin (jdd) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: NB: too late for 11.4, to be seen for next (12?) one. when somebody have to install openSUSE, the moment he have to partition his drive is the key moment. Any error could make him lose his favorite (previous) system. The install system makes it's best to guess the better way to do this, but unless the disk is brand new, the result is random. For anybody not familiar with the partitionner, the two options (create partition/modify partitions) are unsignificant: that is they meaning have nothing obvious, the two of them keep the initial proposal. We should have a third option: guided partitionning, with something like this: * if windows install was found: ask: do you want to remove your windows install or keep it? If the answer is to remove, no problem. If the answer is to keep, an other question have to be asked: "you have to reduce the size of a windows partition". This one looks like a data partition (show some files on the partition) do you want openSUSE to use it (if yes, go to th reduce partition module). etc. we could discuss to have a fully, optional dialog + Discussion: + #1: Jean-Daniel Dodin (jdd) (2011-02-06 17:03:12) + one of the main problem is that few people are really partition guru, + and it's pretty difficult to know wich partition have what content, + even if we are a partition guru :-). This dialog can probably be + avoided if he disk is RAID or LVM, in that case the user can be guessed + as expert. + Right now, the only way to work is to first boot windows to see how + windows is installed (usually at least two partitions, including the + recovery one - often not well defined), but it's very difficult to + guess what partion number are the windows partitions. So after that, + one have to load a live dvd and lurk the filesystems to guess who is + what. Notice that having an abstract list of the files in the partition + is a great help. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311244

Feature changed by: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) Feature #311244, revision 5 Title: install time enhancement for partitionner openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Jean-Daniel Dodin (jdd) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: NB: too late for 11.4, to be seen for next (12?) one. when somebody have to install openSUSE, the moment he have to partition his drive is the key moment. Any error could make him lose his favorite (previous) system. The install system makes it's best to guess the better way to do this, but unless the disk is brand new, the result is random. For anybody not familiar with the partitionner, the two options (create partition/modify partitions) are unsignificant: that is they meaning have nothing obvious, the two of them keep the initial proposal. We should have a third option: guided partitionning, with something like this: * if windows install was found: ask: do you want to remove your windows install or keep it? If the answer is to remove, no problem. If the answer is to keep, an other question have to be asked: "you have to reduce the size of a windows partition". This one looks like a data partition (show some files on the partition) do you want openSUSE to use it (if yes, go to th reduce partition module). etc. we could discuss to have a fully, optional dialog + Relations: + - how to enter expert/advanced partitioning during install + unnecessarily obscure (feature/id: 308150) Discussion: #1: Jean-Daniel Dodin (jdd) (2011-02-06 17:03:12) one of the main problem is that few people are really partition guru, and it's pretty difficult to know wich partition have what content, even if we are a partition guru :-). This dialog can probably be avoided if he disk is RAID or LVM, in that case the user can be guessed as expert. Right now, the only way to work is to first boot windows to see how windows is installed (usually at least two partitions, including the recovery one - often not well defined), but it's very difficult to guess what partion number are the windows partitions. So after that, one have to load a live dvd and lurk the filesystems to guess who is what. Notice that having an abstract list of the files in the partition is a great help. #2: Felix Miata (mrmazda) (2011-02-06 17:32:55) cf. https://features.opensuse.org/308150 -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311244

Feature changed by: Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) Feature #311244, revision 9 Title: install time enhancement for partitionner - openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed + openSUSE Distribution: New Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Jean-Daniel Dodin (jdd) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: NB: too late for 11.4, to be seen for next (12?) one. when somebody have to install openSUSE, the moment he have to partition his drive is the key moment. Any error could make him lose his favorite (previous) system. The install system makes it's best to guess the better way to do this, but unless the disk is brand new, the result is random. For anybody not familiar with the partitionner, the two options (create partition/modify partitions) are unsignificant: that is they meaning have nothing obvious, the two of them keep the initial proposal. We should have a third option: guided partitionning, with something like this: * if windows install was found: ask: do you want to remove your windows install or keep it? If the answer is to remove, no problem. If the answer is to keep, an other question have to be asked: "you have to reduce the size of a windows partition". This one looks like a data partition (show some files on the partition) do you want openSUSE to use it (if yes, go to th reduce partition module). etc. we could discuss to have a fully, optional dialog Relations: - how to enter expert/advanced partitioning during install unnecessarily obscure (feature/id: 308150) Discussion: #1: Jean-Daniel Dodin (jdd) (2011-02-06 17:03:12) one of the main problem is that few people are really partition guru, and it's pretty difficult to know wich partition have what content, even if we are a partition guru :-). This dialog can probably be avoided if he disk is RAID or LVM, in that case the user can be guessed as expert. Right now, the only way to work is to first boot windows to see how windows is installed (usually at least two partitions, including the recovery one - often not well defined), but it's very difficult to guess what partion number are the windows partitions. So after that, one have to load a live dvd and lurk the filesystems to guess who is what. Notice that having an abstract list of the files in the partition is a great help. #2: Felix Miata (mrmazda) (2011-02-06 17:32:55) cf. https://features.opensuse.org/308150 #3: Greg Freemyer (gregfreemyer) (2011-02-08 01:36:12) I take this feature request to be for a "Partitioning Wizard" during install time. I agree. I'm very familiar with partitioning, but I often have to build my partition tables from scratch when installing openSUSE. It's not too bad for experts, but for normal users its quite overwhelming I'm sure. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311244