[openFATE 305929] Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails
Feature added by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Feature #305929, revision 1, last change by Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) Feature #305929, revision 2 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. + Discussion: + #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) + Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, + like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first + start ends with error. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Feature #305929, revision 4 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. + #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) + Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on + X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the + xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to + fix it. + I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this + option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: Stephan Kulow (coolo) Feature #305929, revision 5 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important + Projectmanager: Desirable - openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed - Priority - Requester: Important Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to fix it. I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. + #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:36:09) + this needs to be done in both gdm and kdm as they start the X server. + So I would prefer a clone, but gdm already has something like that - at + least it catches failing X server starts. I'm not sure if there are kdm + developments for that in 4.3 -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) Feature #305929, revision 7 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Desirable Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to fix it. I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:36:09) this needs to be done in both gdm and kdm as they start the X server. So I would prefer a clone, but gdm already has something like that - at least it catches failing X server starts. I'm not sure if there are kdm developments for that in 4.3 + #4: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-12 23:20:47) + I assume you mean something like this: + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #305929, revision 9 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails - openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Desirable Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to fix it. I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:36:09) this needs to be done in both gdm and kdm as they start the X server. So I would prefer a clone, but gdm already has something like that - at least it catches failing X server starts. I'm not sure if there are kdm developments for that in 4.3 #4: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-12 23:20:47) I assume you mean something like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: Jose Ricardo De Leon Solis (derhundchen) Feature #305929, revision 14 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Desirable + openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + Priority + Requester: Important Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to fix it. I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:36:09) this needs to be done in both gdm and kdm as they start the X server. So I would prefer a clone, but gdm already has something like that - at least it catches failing X server starts. I'm not sure if there are kdm developments for that in 4.3 #4: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-12 23:20:47) I assume you mean something like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: nick skeen (ns89) Feature #305929, revision 16 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Desirable openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to fix it. I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:36:09) this needs to be done in both gdm and kdm as they start the X server. So I would prefer a clone, but gdm already has something like that - at least it catches failing X server starts. I'm not sure if there are kdm developments for that in 4.3 #4: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-12 23:20:47) I assume you mean something like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX + #5: nick skeen (ns89) (2010-07-30 21:28:51) + Unless your using an extremely old monitor, which could be damaged by + invalid settings, I don't see why this wouldn't be a good idea. And + since SAX has been removed, all the more reason to do this. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: jpxviii jpxviii (jpxviii) Feature #305929, revision 19 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails + Hackweek V: Unconfirmed + Priority + Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Desirable openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to fix it. I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:36:09) this needs to be done in both gdm and kdm as they start the X server. So I would prefer a clone, but gdm already has something like that - at least it catches failing X server starts. I'm not sure if there are kdm developments for that in 4.3 #4: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-12 23:20:47) I assume you mean something like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX #5: nick skeen (ns89) (2010-07-30 21:28:51) Unless your using an extremely old monitor, which could be damaged by invalid settings, I don't see why this wouldn't be a good idea. And since SAX has been removed, all the more reason to do this. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: jpxviii jpxviii (jpxviii) Feature #305929, revision 20 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails Hackweek V: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Desirable openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority - Requester: Important + Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to fix it. I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:36:09) this needs to be done in both gdm and kdm as they start the X server. So I would prefer a clone, but gdm already has something like that - at least it catches failing X server starts. I'm not sure if there are kdm developments for that in 4.3 #4: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-12 23:20:47) I assume you mean something like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX #5: nick skeen (ns89) (2010-07-30 21:28:51) Unless your using an extremely old monitor, which could be damaged by invalid settings, I don't see why this wouldn't be a good idea. And since SAX has been removed, all the more reason to do this. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: Sławomir Lach (Lachu) Feature #305929, revision 21 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails Hackweek V: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Desirable openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to fix it. I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:36:09) this needs to be done in both gdm and kdm as they start the X server. So I would prefer a clone, but gdm already has something like that - at least it catches failing X server starts. I'm not sure if there are kdm developments for that in 4.3 #4: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-12 23:20:47) I assume you mean something like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX #5: nick skeen (ns89) (2010-07-30 21:28:51) Unless your using an extremely old monitor, which could be damaged by invalid settings, I don't see why this wouldn't be a good idea. And since SAX has been removed, all the more reason to do this. + #7: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-08-27 12:55:45) + Sax2 can be runned in safe mode. The matter is Sax2 isn't maintained. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: Sławomir Lach (Lachu) Feature #305929, revision 22 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails Hackweek V: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Desirable openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to fix it. I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:36:09) this needs to be done in both gdm and kdm as they start the X server. So I would prefer a clone, but gdm already has something like that - at least it catches failing X server starts. I'm not sure if there are kdm developments for that in 4.3 #4: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-12 23:20:47) I assume you mean something like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX #5: nick skeen (ns89) (2010-07-30 21:28:51) Unless your using an extremely old monitor, which could be damaged by invalid settings, I don't see why this wouldn't be a good idea. And since SAX has been removed, all the more reason to do this. #7: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-08-27 12:55:45) Sax2 can be runned in safe mode. The matter is Sax2 isn't maintained. + #8: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-08-27 12:56:35) + Ubuntu had similar feature, but dropped it many years ago, since X + server redesign. We also dropped Sax2 in this reason. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #305929, revision 23 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails - Hackweek V: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) + reject date: 2010-11-15 10:52:26 + reject reason: Not done in time for openSUSE 11.2 Priority Requester: Important - openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation - Priority - Requester: Important Projectmanager: Desirable openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to fix it. I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:36:09) this needs to be done in both gdm and kdm as they start the X server. So I would prefer a clone, but gdm already has something like that - at least it catches failing X server starts. I'm not sure if there are kdm developments for that in 4.3 #4: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-12 23:20:47) I assume you mean something like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX #5: nick skeen (ns89) (2010-07-30 21:28:51) Unless your using an extremely old monitor, which could be damaged by invalid settings, I don't see why this wouldn't be a good idea. And since SAX has been removed, all the more reason to do this. #7: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-08-27 12:55:45) Sax2 can be runned in safe mode. The matter is Sax2 isn't maintained. #8: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-08-27 12:56:35) Ubuntu had similar feature, but dropped it many years ago, since X server redesign. We also dropped Sax2 in this reason. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) Feature #305929, revision 24 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-11-15 10:52:26 reject reason: Not done in time for openSUSE 11.2 Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Desirable - openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Product Manager: (Novell) Project Manager: (Novell) Engineering Manager: (Novell) Technical Contact: (Novell) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to fix it. I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:36:09) this needs to be done in both gdm and kdm as they start the X server. So I would prefer a clone, but gdm already has something like that - at least it catches failing X server starts. I'm not sure if there are kdm developments for that in 4.3 #4: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-12 23:20:47) I assume you mean something like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX #5: nick skeen (ns89) (2010-07-30 21:28:51) Unless your using an extremely old monitor, which could be damaged by invalid settings, I don't see why this wouldn't be a good idea. And since SAX has been removed, all the more reason to do this. #7: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-08-27 12:55:45) Sax2 can be runned in safe mode. The matter is Sax2 isn't maintained. #8: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-08-27 12:56:35) Ubuntu had similar feature, but dropped it many years ago, since X server redesign. We also dropped Sax2 in this reason. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: Jörg Schmela (Herz-von-Hessen) Feature #305929, revision 25 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-11-15 10:52:26 reject reason: Not done in time for openSUSE 11.2 Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Desirable openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Product Manager: (Novell) Project Manager: (Novell) Engineering Manager: (Novell) Technical Contact: JP Rosevear (jproseve) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to fix it. I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:36:09) this needs to be done in both gdm and kdm as they start the X server. So I would prefer a clone, but gdm already has something like that - at least it catches failing X server starts. I'm not sure if there are kdm developments for that in 4.3 #4: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-12 23:20:47) I assume you mean something like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX #5: nick skeen (ns89) (2010-07-30 21:28:51) Unless your using an extremely old monitor, which could be damaged by invalid settings, I don't see why this wouldn't be a good idea. And since SAX has been removed, all the more reason to do this. #7: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-08-27 12:55:45) Sax2 can be runned in safe mode. The matter is Sax2 isn't maintained. #8: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-08-27 12:56:35) Ubuntu had similar feature, but dropped it many years ago, since X server redesign. We also dropped Sax2 in this reason. + #9: Jörg Schmela (herz-von-hessen) (2011-02-25 18:40:09) + i dont matter what other Distris do, i like openSUSE an the wiches of + the Community should become more "Ears" - we are the Users. The First + Thing i do (bevore 11.3), when my X fails is, to start with sax2 -r -m + 0=vesa or even sax2 -r -m 0=fbdev and so my X starts with minimal, but + grafical Screen. This feature is enough Terminal input for Beginners. + The better Way ist ti build in that this comes automatic when X fails. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
Feature changed by: Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) Feature #305929, revision 26 Title: Startup in X even when the xorg.conf fails openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-11-15 10:52:26 reject reason: Not done in time for openSUSE 11.2 Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Desirable - openSUSE-11.4: New + openSUSE-11.4: Rejected by Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) + reject reason: Not done for 11.4. Priority Requester: Mandatory + openSUSE Distribution: New + Priority + Requester: Desirable Requested by: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) Engineering Manager: Klaas Freitag (kfreitag) Technical Contact: JP Rosevear (jproseve) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: As there are more and more new users within openSuSE with less knowledge. I was thinking it's an option to boot in Vesa when the original xorg.conf fails. Than the user is still able to fix the problem via a GUI i.e. YaST and SAX. Discussion: #1: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2009-03-01 14:58:20) Failsafe boot option should provide that, or you have some other idea, like to attempt to start Xorg again with xorg.install file if first start ends with error. #2: Joop Boonen (worldcitizen) (2009-03-01 17:21:53) (reply to #1) Fail boot does that indeed. I was thinking of an automatic fall back on X when xorg.conf fails, with a kdm i.e. *dm screen that shows the the xorg configuration failed, maybe including help how to to go about to fix it. I think the Fail Boot option is ideal but you need to know about this option to use it. I was thinking it might be extra helpful. #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:36:09) this needs to be done in both gdm and kdm as they start the X server. So I would prefer a clone, but gdm already has something like that - at least it catches failing X server starts. I'm not sure if there are kdm developments for that in 4.3 #4: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-12 23:20:47) I assume you mean something like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX #5: nick skeen (ns89) (2010-07-30 21:28:51) Unless your using an extremely old monitor, which could be damaged by invalid settings, I don't see why this wouldn't be a good idea. And since SAX has been removed, all the more reason to do this. #7: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-08-27 12:55:45) Sax2 can be runned in safe mode. The matter is Sax2 isn't maintained. #8: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-08-27 12:56:35) Ubuntu had similar feature, but dropped it many years ago, since X server redesign. We also dropped Sax2 in this reason. #9: Jörg Schmela (herz-von-hessen) (2011-02-25 18:40:09) i dont matter what other Distris do, i like openSUSE an the wiches of the Community should become more "Ears" - we are the Users. The First Thing i do (bevore 11.3), when my X fails is, to start with sax2 -r -m 0=vesa or even sax2 -r -m 0=fbdev and so my X starts with minimal, but grafical Screen. This feature is enough Terminal input for Beginners. The better Way ist ti build in that this comes automatic when X fails. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305929
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