[New: openFATE 310300] Create sensible start pages for browsers
Feature added by: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) Feature #310300, revision 1 Title: Create sensible start pages for browsers openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) Description: The current start page for browsers is http://www.opensuse.org/. In my opinion the current content is not useful as a startpage which is kept by people. I would find a very small page with a possibility to search the net useful like the following examples: * http://www.google.de/firefox * http://start.ubuntu.com/10.04/Google/ * http://start.fedoraproject.org/ I don't want to promote Google but it's still the most popular search engine and what people mainly use. As part of this possible change I'd like to have an offline start page which can be loaded (at least) in Firefox when the machine is offline. Can people come up with something like that? Just an index.html with some more files probably installed in a location where other browsers can pick it up as well. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310300
Feature changed by: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet) Feature #310300, revision 3 Title: Create sensible start pages for browsers openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) Description: The current start page for browsers is http://www.opensuse.org/. In my opinion the current content is not useful as a startpage which is kept by people. I would find a very small page with a possibility to search the net useful like the following examples: * http://www.google.de/firefox * http://start.ubuntu.com/10.04/Google/ * http://start.fedoraproject.org/ I don't want to promote Google but it's still the most popular search engine and what people mainly use. As part of this possible change I'd like to have an offline start page which can be loaded (at least) in Firefox when the machine is offline. Can people come up with something like that? Just an index.html with some more files probably installed in a location where other browsers can pick it up as well. + Discussion: + #1: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet) (2010-08-07 21:46:19) + The openSUSE page is part of our branding. Most browsers already search + with google by default anyway and users can change the startpage. I + don't think putting google as default is a good idea. What I do like + however is the idea to have an off-line page - but it should be + openSUSE branded. Anyone with some html skills could make it (even by + just dumping one of the current openSUSE webpages), who's up for that? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310300
Feature changed by: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) Feature #310300, revision 4 Title: Create sensible start pages for browsers openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) Description: The current start page for browsers is http://www.opensuse.org/. In my opinion the current content is not useful as a startpage which is kept by people. I would find a very small page with a possibility to search the net useful like the following examples: * http://www.google.de/firefox * http://start.ubuntu.com/10.04/Google/ * http://start.fedoraproject.org/ I don't want to promote Google but it's still the most popular search engine and what people mainly use. As part of this possible change I'd like to have an offline start page which can be loaded (at least) in Firefox when the machine is offline. Can people come up with something like that? Just an index.html with some more files probably installed in a location where other browsers can pick it up as well. Discussion: #1: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet) (2010-08-07 21:46:19) The openSUSE page is part of our branding. Most browsers already search with google by default anyway and users can change the startpage. I don't think putting google as default is a good idea. What I do like however is the idea to have an off-line page - but it should be openSUSE branded. Anyone with some html skills could make it (even by just dumping one of the current openSUSE webpages), who's up for that? + #2: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) (2010-08-07 21:51:30) (reply to + #1) + Note that I don't want to have a non-openSUSE branded page. But what I + propose is to have a minimalistic site probably with a internet search + option. I think even Google allows to have custom pages or embed the + google search into own sites. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310300
Feature changed by: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) Feature #310300, revision 5 Title: Create sensible start pages for browsers openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) Description: The current start page for browsers is http://www.opensuse.org/. In my opinion the current content is not useful as a startpage which is kept by people. I would find a very small page with a possibility to search the net useful like the following examples: * http://www.google.de/firefox * http://start.ubuntu.com/10.04/Google/ * http://start.fedoraproject.org/ I don't want to promote Google but it's still the most popular search engine and what people mainly use. As part of this possible change I'd like to have an offline start page which can be loaded (at least) in Firefox when the machine is offline. Can people come up with something like that? Just an index.html with some more files probably installed in a location where other browsers can pick it up as well. Discussion: #1: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet) (2010-08-07 21:46:19) The openSUSE page is part of our branding. Most browsers already search with google by default anyway and users can change the startpage. I don't think putting google as default is a good idea. What I do like however is the idea to have an off-line page - but it should be openSUSE branded. Anyone with some html skills could make it (even by just dumping one of the current openSUSE webpages), who's up for that? #2: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) (2010-08-07 21:51:30) (reply to #1) Note that I don't want to have a non-openSUSE branded page. But what I propose is to have a minimalistic site probably with a internet search option. I think even Google allows to have custom pages or embed the google search into own sites. + #3: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) (2010-08-08 15:25:40) + Are you considering it not uesful simply because it lacks a search + engine? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310300
Feature changed by: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) Feature #310300, revision 6 Title: Create sensible start pages for browsers openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) Description: The current start page for browsers is http://www.opensuse.org/. In my opinion the current content is not useful as a startpage which is kept by people. I would find a very small page with a possibility to search the net useful like the following examples: * http://www.google.de/firefox * http://start.ubuntu.com/10.04/Google/ * http://start.fedoraproject.org/ I don't want to promote Google but it's still the most popular search engine and what people mainly use. As part of this possible change I'd like to have an offline start page which can be loaded (at least) in Firefox when the machine is offline. Can people come up with something like that? Just an index.html with some more files probably installed in a location where other browsers can pick it up as well. Discussion: #1: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet) (2010-08-07 21:46:19) The openSUSE page is part of our branding. Most browsers already search with google by default anyway and users can change the startpage. I don't think putting google as default is a good idea. What I do like however is the idea to have an off-line page - but it should be openSUSE branded. Anyone with some html skills could make it (even by just dumping one of the current openSUSE webpages), who's up for that? #2: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) (2010-08-07 21:51:30) (reply to #1) Note that I don't want to have a non-openSUSE branded page. But what I propose is to have a minimalistic site probably with a internet search option. I think even Google allows to have custom pages or embed the google search into own sites. #3: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) (2010-08-08 15:25:40) Are you considering it not uesful simply because it lacks a search engine? + #4: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) (2010-08-08 15:32:46) (reply to + #3) + I try to estimate how useful the start page is for the majority of users + and the current startpage is likely to get replaced by the user almost + instantly. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310300
Feature changed by: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) Feature #310300, revision 7 Title: Create sensible start pages for browsers openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) Description: The current start page for browsers is http://www.opensuse.org/. In my opinion the current content is not useful as a startpage which is kept by people. I would find a very small page with a possibility to search the net useful like the following examples: * http://www.google.de/firefox * http://start.ubuntu.com/10.04/Google/ * http://start.fedoraproject.org/ I don't want to promote Google but it's still the most popular search engine and what people mainly use. As part of this possible change I'd like to have an offline start page which can be loaded (at least) in Firefox when the machine is offline. Can people come up with something like that? Just an index.html with some more files probably installed in a location where other browsers can pick it up as well. Discussion: #1: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet) (2010-08-07 21:46:19) The openSUSE page is part of our branding. Most browsers already search with google by default anyway and users can change the startpage. I don't think putting google as default is a good idea. What I do like however is the idea to have an off-line page - but it should be openSUSE branded. Anyone with some html skills could make it (even by just dumping one of the current openSUSE webpages), who's up for that? #2: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) (2010-08-07 21:51:30) (reply to #1) Note that I don't want to have a non-openSUSE branded page. But what I propose is to have a minimalistic site probably with a internet search option. I think even Google allows to have custom pages or embed the google search into own sites. + #5: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) (2010-08-08 16:24:04) (reply to #1) + What's a possible outline one would want for an off-line page? + + I'm figuring no search engine obviously, no get-it button, or anything + requiring online access. #3: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) (2010-08-08 15:25:40) Are you considering it not uesful simply because it lacks a search engine? #4: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) (2010-08-08 15:32:46) (reply to #3) I try to estimate how useful the start page is for the majority of users and the current startpage is likely to get replaced by the user almost instantly. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310300
Feature changed by: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) Feature #310300, revision 8 Title: Create sensible start pages for browsers openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) Description: The current start page for browsers is http://www.opensuse.org/. In my opinion the current content is not useful as a startpage which is kept by people. I would find a very small page with a possibility to search the net useful like the following examples: * http://www.google.de/firefox * http://start.ubuntu.com/10.04/Google/ * http://start.fedoraproject.org/ I don't want to promote Google but it's still the most popular search engine and what people mainly use. As part of this possible change I'd like to have an offline start page which can be loaded (at least) in Firefox when the machine is offline. Can people come up with something like that? Just an index.html with some more files probably installed in a location where other browsers can pick it up as well. Discussion: #1: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet) (2010-08-07 21:46:19) The openSUSE page is part of our branding. Most browsers already search with google by default anyway and users can change the startpage. I don't think putting google as default is a good idea. What I do like however is the idea to have an off-line page - but it should be openSUSE branded. Anyone with some html skills could make it (even by just dumping one of the current openSUSE webpages), who's up for that? #2: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) (2010-08-07 21:51:30) (reply to #1) Note that I don't want to have a non-openSUSE branded page. But what I propose is to have a minimalistic site probably with a internet search option. I think even Google allows to have custom pages or embed the google search into own sites. #5: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) (2010-08-08 16:24:04) (reply to #1) What's a possible outline one would want for an off-line page? I'm figuring no search engine obviously, no get-it button, or anything requiring online access. #3: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) (2010-08-08 15:25:40) Are you considering it not uesful simply because it lacks a search engine? #4: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) (2010-08-08 15:32:46) (reply to #3) I try to estimate how useful the start page is for the majority of users and the current startpage is likely to get replaced by the user almost instantly. + #6: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) (2010-08-08 21:01:18) (reply to #4) + Okay. I get that. But even a useful stat page gets replaced by me. Most + people have a home page they like to use. I use a personalized igoogle + page. Some may use Yahoo page for email, etc. Let's keep in mind that + Linux users in general are not average computer users and will + customize what they want. Though, it is kinda funny ot have a start + page with a "Get-it" button when it's already installed...so I buy what + you're selling. Perhaps a page more tailored to getting help or + directly to the wiki would be better. I may have mis understood you're + point because you had posted links w/ a Google search. But I understand + your philosophy. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310300
Feature changed by: Will Bickerstaff (wdbstaff) Feature #310300, revision 10 Title: Create sensible start pages for browsers openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) Description: The current start page for browsers is http://www.opensuse.org/. In my opinion the current content is not useful as a startpage which is kept by people. I would find a very small page with a possibility to search the net useful like the following examples: * http://www.google.de/firefox * http://start.ubuntu.com/10.04/Google/ * http://start.fedoraproject.org/ I don't want to promote Google but it's still the most popular search engine and what people mainly use. As part of this possible change I'd like to have an offline start page which can be loaded (at least) in Firefox when the machine is offline. Can people come up with something like that? Just an index.html with some more files probably installed in a location where other browsers can pick it up as well. Discussion: #1: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet) (2010-08-07 21:46:19) The openSUSE page is part of our branding. Most browsers already search with google by default anyway and users can change the startpage. I don't think putting google as default is a good idea. What I do like however is the idea to have an off-line page - but it should be openSUSE branded. Anyone with some html skills could make it (even by just dumping one of the current openSUSE webpages), who's up for that? #2: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) (2010-08-07 21:51:30) (reply to #1) Note that I don't want to have a non-openSUSE branded page. But what I propose is to have a minimalistic site probably with a internet search option. I think even Google allows to have custom pages or embed the google search into own sites. #5: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) (2010-08-08 16:24:04) (reply to #1) What's a possible outline one would want for an off-line page? I'm figuring no search engine obviously, no get-it button, or anything requiring online access. #3: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) (2010-08-08 15:25:40) Are you considering it not uesful simply because it lacks a search engine? #4: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) (2010-08-08 15:32:46) (reply to #3) I try to estimate how useful the start page is for the majority of users and the current startpage is likely to get replaced by the user almost instantly. #6: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) (2010-08-08 21:01:18) (reply to #4) Okay. I get that. But even a useful stat page gets replaced by me. Most people have a home page they like to use. I use a personalized igoogle page. Some may use Yahoo page for email, etc. Let's keep in mind that Linux users in general are not average computer users and will customize what they want. Though, it is kinda funny ot have a start page with a "Get-it" button when it's already installed...so I buy what you're selling. Perhaps a page more tailored to getting help or directly to the wiki would be better. I may have mis understood you're point because you had posted links w/ a Google search. But I understand your philosophy. + #7: Will Bickerstaff (wdbstaff) (2010-08-09 08:00:17) + I totally get the point of this. On first opening of the systems + browser a useless page gives completely the wrong impression (that the + OS isn't completely thought through) Whether the user goes onto to + change the page or not is irrelevant. For openSUSE to portray a + polished, complete distro details like this need attention. + Opening a page which provides a link to download what I've just + installed is about as useless as it gets. + I think a page with links to news, the wiki help pages (that points to + an existing page, not the one currently provided in FF which points to + a non existing page, but thats a different issue), forums, shops and + guiding principles. + Make them nice and clear and add a search box that's tweaked to search + the web or any of the above areas of the openSUSE site. + I'll be doing some web site work this week so can knock up something + for everyone to look at -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310300
Feature changed by: Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) Feature #310300, revision 12 Title: Create sensible start pages for browsers - openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + openSUSE Distribution: Done Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The current start page for browsers is http://www.opensuse.org/. In my opinion the current content is not useful as a startpage which is kept by people. I would find a very small page with a possibility to search the net useful like the following examples: * http://www.google.de/firefox * http://start.ubuntu.com/10.04/Google/ * http://start.fedoraproject.org/ I don't want to promote Google but it's still the most popular search engine and what people mainly use. As part of this possible change I'd like to have an offline start page which can be loaded (at least) in Firefox when the machine is offline. Can people come up with something like that? Just an index.html with some more files probably installed in a location where other browsers can pick it up as well. + Relations: + - Landing page published, search page to become default page for users + (url: https://news.opensuse.org/2015/09/10/landing-page-published-search-page-to-b...) Discussion: #1: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet) (2010-08-07 21:46:19) The openSUSE page is part of our branding. Most browsers already search with google by default anyway and users can change the startpage. I don't think putting google as default is a good idea. What I do like however is the idea to have an off-line page - but it should be openSUSE branded. Anyone with some html skills could make it (even by just dumping one of the current openSUSE webpages), who's up for that? #2: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) (2010-08-07 21:51:30) (reply to #1) Note that I don't want to have a non-openSUSE branded page. But what I propose is to have a minimalistic site probably with a internet search option. I think even Google allows to have custom pages or embed the google search into own sites. #5: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) (2010-08-08 16:24:04) (reply to #1) What's a possible outline one would want for an off-line page? I'm figuring no search engine obviously, no get-it button, or anything requiring online access. #3: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) (2010-08-08 15:25:40) Are you considering it not uesful simply because it lacks a search engine? #4: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) (2010-08-08 15:32:46) (reply to #3) I try to estimate how useful the start page is for the majority of users and the current startpage is likely to get replaced by the user almost instantly. #6: Michael Dunsavage (mikesd81) (2010-08-08 21:01:18) (reply to #4) Okay. I get that. But even a useful stat page gets replaced by me. Most people have a home page they like to use. I use a personalized igoogle page. Some may use Yahoo page for email, etc. Let's keep in mind that Linux users in general are not average computer users and will customize what they want. Though, it is kinda funny ot have a start page with a "Get-it" button when it's already installed...so I buy what you're selling. Perhaps a page more tailored to getting help or directly to the wiki would be better. I may have mis understood you're point because you had posted links w/ a Google search. But I understand your philosophy. #7: Will Bickerstaff (wdbstaff) (2010-08-09 08:00:17) I totally get the point of this. On first opening of the systems browser a useless page gives completely the wrong impression (that the OS isn't completely thought through) Whether the user goes onto to change the page or not is irrelevant. For openSUSE to portray a polished, complete distro details like this need attention. Opening a page which provides a link to download what I've just installed is about as useless as it gets. I think a page with links to news, the wiki help pages (that points to an existing page, not the one currently provided in FF which points to a non existing page, but thats a different issue), forums, shops and guiding principles. Make them nice and clear and add a search box that's tweaked to search the web or any of the above areas of the openSUSE site. I'll be doing some web site work this week so can knock up something for everyone to look at -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310300
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