Feature changed by: Lee Matheson (oldcpu) Feature #307862, revision 4 Title: zypper parallel dowloading of packages openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Aris Karagiannidis (arkara) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Now, i think that this is already done with apt. What should happen is that zypper should download packages concurrently and when it does download them all, then it should install them Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Faster package management + Discussion: + #1: Lee Matheson (oldcpu) (2009-12-05 13:30:06) + IMHO the default setting for zypper should be (1) download and ONLY + after download of all selected apps/dependencies is complete then (2) + install. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307862

Feature changed by: Ján Kupec (jkupec) Feature #307862, revision 8 Title: zypper parallel dowloading of packages openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Aris Karagiannidis (arkara) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Now, i think that this is already done with apt. What should happen is that zypper should download packages concurrently and when it does download them all, then it should install them Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Faster package management Discussion: #1: Lee Matheson (oldcpu) (2009-12-05 13:30:06) IMHO the default setting for zypper should be (1) download and ONLY after download of all selected apps/dependencies is complete then (2) install. #2: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2010-05-28 12:28:20) See https://features.opensuse.org/120340 + #3: Ján Kupec (jkupec) (2010-05-28 12:39:53) (reply to #2) + This feature and comment #1 does not contradict #120340 (parallel + download and install). First, even if we download and install in + parallel, we still can download multiple files at once. Second, + download-all-install-all can still be the default, while alternating + download-few-while-installing-one, can be enabled on request or in zypp + (er).config (like it is now with download-one-install-one). -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307862

Feature changed by: Michael Andres (mlandres) Feature #307862, revision 13 Title: zypper parallel dowloading of packages openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Aris Karagiannidis (arkara) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Now, i think that this is already done with apt. What should happen is that zypper should download packages concurrently and when it does download them all, then it should install them Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Faster package management Discussion: #1: Lee Matheson (oldcpu) (2009-12-05 13:30:06) IMHO the default setting for zypper should be (1) download and ONLY after download of all selected apps/dependencies is complete then (2) install. #2: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2010-05-28 12:28:20) See https://features.opensuse.org/120340 #3: Ján Kupec (jkupec) (2010-05-28 12:39:53) (reply to #2) This feature and comment #1 does not contradict #120340 (parallel download and install). First, even if we download and install in parallel, we still can download multiple files at once. Second, download-all-install-all can still be the default, while alternating download-few-while-installing-one, can be enabled on request or in zypp (er).config (like it is now with download-one-install-one). #4: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2012-10-30 20:39:43) Does Zypper still suffers from this? + #5: Michael Andres (mlandres) (2012-10-31 10:50:40) (reply to #4) + We still don't download multiple files in parallel. + But the MultiCurl backend (replacing ARIA as default since libzypp- + 8.0.1) implements MetaLink and Zsync support. So we download multiple + portions of the same file in parallel from multiple mirror locations, + if the hosting server supports it. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307862

Feature changed by: Mário Castanheira (SpeccyMan) Feature #307862, revision 15 - Title: zypper parallel dowloading of packages + Title: zypper parallel downloading of packages openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Aris Karagiannidis (arkara) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Now, i think that this is already done with apt. What should happen is that zypper should download packages concurrently and when it does download them all, then it should install them Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Faster package management Discussion: #1: Lee Matheson (oldcpu) (2009-12-05 13:30:06) IMHO the default setting for zypper should be (1) download and ONLY after download of all selected apps/dependencies is complete then (2) install. #2: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2010-05-28 12:28:20) See https://features.opensuse.org/120340 #3: Ján Kupec (jkupec) (2010-05-28 12:39:53) (reply to #2) This feature and comment #1 does not contradict #120340 (parallel download and install). First, even if we download and install in parallel, we still can download multiple files at once. Second, download-all-install-all can still be the default, while alternating download-few-while-installing-one, can be enabled on request or in zypp (er).config (like it is now with download-one-install-one). #4: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2012-10-30 20:39:43) Does Zypper still suffers from this? #5: Michael Andres (mlandres) (2012-10-31 10:50:40) (reply to #4) We still don't download multiple files in parallel. But the MultiCurl backend (replacing ARIA as default since libzypp- 8.0.1) implements MetaLink and Zsync support. So we download multiple portions of the same file in parallel from multiple mirror locations, if the hosting server supports it. #6: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2012-11-06 15:55:45) (reply to #5) So my question now is: would there be any gain of speed to also add a "parallel downloading of packages", or there's not point in doing that since we already "download multiple portions of the same file in parallel"? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307862

Feature changed by: Mário Castanheira (SpeccyMan) Feature #307862, revision 17 Title: zypper parallel downloading of packages openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Aris Karagiannidis (arkara) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Now, i think that this is already done with apt. What should happen is that zypper should download packages concurrently and when it does download them all, then it should install them Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Faster package management Discussion: #1: Lee Matheson (oldcpu) (2009-12-05 13:30:06) IMHO the default setting for zypper should be (1) download and ONLY after download of all selected apps/dependencies is complete then (2) install. #2: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2010-05-28 12:28:20) See https://features.opensuse.org/120340 #3: Ján Kupec (jkupec) (2010-05-28 12:39:53) (reply to #2) This feature and comment #1 does not contradict #120340 (parallel download and install). First, even if we download and install in parallel, we still can download multiple files at once. Second, download-all-install-all can still be the default, while alternating download-few-while-installing-one, can be enabled on request or in zypp (er).config (like it is now with download-one-install-one). #4: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2012-10-30 20:39:43) Does Zypper still suffers from this? #5: Michael Andres (mlandres) (2012-10-31 10:50:40) (reply to #4) We still don't download multiple files in parallel. But the MultiCurl backend (replacing ARIA as default since libzypp- 8.0.1) implements MetaLink and Zsync support. So we download multiple portions of the same file in parallel from multiple mirror locations, if the hosting server supports it. #6: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2012-11-06 15:55:45) (reply to #5) So my question now is: would there be any gain of speed to also add a "parallel downloading of packages", or there's not point in doing that since we already "download multiple portions of the same file in parallel"? #7: Michael Andres (mlandres) (2012-11-06 16:57:17) (reply to #6) I don't know if someone measured it, but I don't expect a big gain when downloading from a server supporting MetaLink/Zsync. Of course if the hosting server does not support it, the gain would be significant. + #8: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2012-11-07 18:46:34) (reply to #7) + Ok, so this means it still is a good idea to implement this feature in + order to obtain more speed. :) -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307862

Feature changed by: Vincent Petry (PVince81) Feature #307862, revision 21 Title: zypper parallel downloading of packages openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Aris Karagiannidis (arkara) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Now, i think that this is already done with apt. What should happen is that zypper should download packages concurrently and when it does download them all, then it should install them Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Faster package management Discussion: #1: Lee Matheson (oldcpu) (2009-12-05 13:30:06) IMHO the default setting for zypper should be (1) download and ONLY after download of all selected apps/dependencies is complete then (2) install. #2: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2010-05-28 12:28:20) See https://features.opensuse.org/120340 #3: Ján Kupec (jkupec) (2010-05-28 12:39:53) (reply to #2) This feature and comment #1 does not contradict #120340 (parallel download and install). First, even if we download and install in parallel, we still can download multiple files at once. Second, download-all-install-all can still be the default, while alternating download-few-while-installing-one, can be enabled on request or in zypp (er).config (like it is now with download-one-install-one). #4: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2012-10-30 20:39:43) Does Zypper still suffers from this? #5: Michael Andres (mlandres) (2012-10-31 10:50:40) (reply to #4) We still don't download multiple files in parallel. But the MultiCurl backend (replacing ARIA as default since libzypp- 8.0.1) implements MetaLink and Zsync support. So we download multiple portions of the same file in parallel from multiple mirror locations, if the hosting server supports it. #6: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2012-11-06 15:55:45) (reply to #5) So my question now is: would there be any gain of speed to also add a "parallel downloading of packages", or there's not point in doing that since we already "download multiple portions of the same file in parallel"? #7: Michael Andres (mlandres) (2012-11-06 16:57:17) (reply to #6) I don't know if someone measured it, but I don't expect a big gain when downloading from a server supporting MetaLink/Zsync. Of course if the hosting server does not support it, the gain would be significant. #8: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2012-11-07 18:46:34) (reply to #7) Ok, so this means it still is a good idea to implement this feature in order to obtain more speed. :) #9: John Beranek (johnberanek) (2013-03-16 15:56:28) Yum in Fedora is now doing parallel downloads, and what it appears to manage to do is keep a limited bandwidth link (I'm talking 6Mps DSL here) nice and full, as there's no pause between individual downloads as a new connection to the download server, as there are typically a number of different RPMs actively downloading at any time. + #10: Vincent Petry (pvince81) (2015-02-05 22:06:58) + openSUSE 13.2 is out, is there still interest for this feature ? + In my case I'm using openSUSE Factory as rolling release and as you + might know the number of updated packages is usually quite high. Having + parallel download would help speed this up. :-) -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307862

Feature changed by: Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) Feature #307862, revision 25 Title: zypper parallel downloading of packages openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) reject reason: Not done in time for 11.3. Priority Requester: Important openSUSE Distribution: New Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Aris Karagiannidis (arkara) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Now, i think that this is already done with apt. What should happen is that zypper should download packages concurrently and when it does download them all, then it should install them + Relations: + - Practical steps to parallel downloading of updates (feature/id: + 318807) + - Evaluate libzypp thread safety (feature/id: 312840) + - Decouple download and installation (feature/id: 120340) + - Decouple download and installation (feature/id: 120340) Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Faster package management Discussion: #1: Lee Matheson (oldcpu) (2009-12-05 13:30:06) IMHO the default setting for zypper should be (1) download and ONLY after download of all selected apps/dependencies is complete then (2) install. #2: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2010-05-28 12:28:20) See https://features.opensuse.org/120340 #3: Ján Kupec (jkupec) (2010-05-28 12:39:53) (reply to #2) This feature and comment #1 does not contradict #120340 (parallel download and install). First, even if we download and install in parallel, we still can download multiple files at once. Second, download-all-install-all can still be the default, while alternating download-few-while-installing-one, can be enabled on request or in zypp (er).config (like it is now with download-one-install-one). #4: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2012-10-30 20:39:43) Does Zypper still suffers from this? #5: Michael Andres (mlandres) (2012-10-31 10:50:40) (reply to #4) We still don't download multiple files in parallel. But the MultiCurl backend (replacing ARIA as default since libzypp- 8.0.1) implements MetaLink and Zsync support. So we download multiple portions of the same file in parallel from multiple mirror locations, if the hosting server supports it. #6: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2012-11-06 15:55:45) (reply to #5) So my question now is: would there be any gain of speed to also add a "parallel downloading of packages", or there's not point in doing that since we already "download multiple portions of the same file in parallel"? #7: Michael Andres (mlandres) (2012-11-06 16:57:17) (reply to #6) I don't know if someone measured it, but I don't expect a big gain when downloading from a server supporting MetaLink/Zsync. Of course if the hosting server does not support it, the gain would be significant. #8: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2012-11-07 18:46:34) (reply to #7) Ok, so this means it still is a good idea to implement this feature in order to obtain more speed. :) #9: John Beranek (johnberanek) (2013-03-16 15:56:28) Yum in Fedora is now doing parallel downloads, and what it appears to manage to do is keep a limited bandwidth link (I'm talking 6Mps DSL here) nice and full, as there's no pause between individual downloads as a new connection to the download server, as there are typically a number of different RPMs actively downloading at any time. #10: Vincent Petry (pvince81) (2015-02-05 22:06:58) openSUSE 13.2 is out, is there still interest for this feature ? In my case I'm using openSUSE Factory as rolling release and as you might know the number of updated packages is usually quite high. Having parallel download would help speed this up. :-) -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307862