Feature changed by: Juergen Weigert (jnweiger) Feature #311439, revision 3 Title: have a decent linear video editor openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Jean-Daniel Dodin (jdd) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: When searching why I still switch to Windows, I have little answers but two or three. One of them is having a decent video editor, like this proprietary one: http://www.magix.com/us/ (cost only approx $100), extremely powerfull. We already have some editors (Kdenlive, kino, openshot, openmovie, blender, cinelerra) Use Case: To edit the 11.4 tutorials I had to use Magix. No Linux editor could do the same without crashing every 10 minutes... and I really dislike making openSUSE tutorials with a proprietary software Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: On my opinion, we are not that far of the result, but may be we would have to give 2/3 more developpers to the right project. for now I see three capable projects: * kdenlive, the kde editor. It's the most promising, but for some years now it's still excessively buggy. Not even able to save and load correctly a project! * blender. Blender have a very special interface, so I couldn't really test it, but the Blender developpers use to be extremely fine, so I trust them. I will try it more, but may be need to buils a doc in the mean time * cinelerra. let alone because it may be the older project, and said to be very fine for it's goal. Used to ask for enormous amount of power (cluster of 100 machines) and specially fitted to jpeg movy editor, very professional, may be too much for the average :-( So we need one and we can have one if we devote some manpower to it + Discussion: + #1: Juergen Weigert (jnweiger) (2011-03-07 19:20:57) + I am all pro enabling a good multimedia experience with Linux, but + there is a reason why this has seen low effort in the past. A Video- + Editor cannot work without several potentially patent encumbered + codecs. Novell legal advises against inclusion of e.g. MPEG2/4 or mp3 + codecs in our products. One possibility to cope with this advise is to + identify an application that can be separated into a base application + (maintained at SUSE) and codec plugin packages (maintained elsewhere). + The base application should come with free codecs, (e.g. ogg) to be + useful on its own. It should also know other formats and codecs and + guide through the needed steps towards additional software packages + (and licenses, where needed). There is additional effort in maintaining + a decent user experience when a any sizable application gets separated + into free and non-free parts coming through different distribution + channels. + Other possibilities might include moving it outside of Novell's + responsibility, but I'd be more interested to host it here, if doable. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311439

Feature changed by: Karl Cheng (qantas94heavy) Feature #311439, revision 7 - Title: have a decent linear video editor + Title: Include a decent video editor openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Jean-Daniel Dodin (jdd) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: When searching why I still switch to Windows, I have little answers but two or three. One of them is having a decent video editor, like this proprietary one: http://www.magix.com/us/ (cost only approx $100), extremely powerfull. We already have some editors (Kdenlive, kino, openshot, openmovie, blender, cinelerra) Use Case: To edit the 11.4 tutorials I had to use Magix. No Linux editor could do the same without crashing every 10 minutes... and I really dislike making openSUSE tutorials with a proprietary software Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: On my opinion, we are not that far of the result, but may be we would have to give 2/3 more developpers to the right project. for now I see three capable projects: * kdenlive, the kde editor. It's the most promising, but for some years now it's still excessively buggy. Not even able to save and load correctly a project! * blender. Blender have a very special interface, so I couldn't really test it, but the Blender developpers use to be extremely fine, so I trust them. I will try it more, but may be need to buils a doc in the mean time * cinelerra. let alone because it may be the older project, and said to be very fine for it's goal. Used to ask for enormous amount of power (cluster of 100 machines) and specially fitted to jpeg movy editor, very professional, may be too much for the average :-( So we need one and we can have one if we devote some manpower to it Discussion: #1: Juergen Weigert (jnweiger) (2011-03-07 19:20:57) I am all pro enabling a good multimedia experience with Linux, but there is a reason why this has seen low effort in the past. A Video- Editor cannot work without several potentially patent encumbered codecs. Novell legal advises against inclusion of e.g. MPEG2/4 or mp3 codecs in our products. One possibility to cope with this advise is to identify an application that can be separated into a base application (maintained at SUSE) and codec plugin packages (maintained elsewhere). The base application should come with free codecs, (e.g. ogg) to be useful on its own. It should also know other formats and codecs and guide through the needed steps towards additional software packages (and licenses, where needed). There is additional effort in maintaining a decent user experience when a any sizable application gets separated into free and non-free parts coming through different distribution channels. Other possibilities might include moving it outside of Novell's responsibility, but I'd be more interested to host it here, if doable. #2: Jedi Beeftrix (jedibeeftrix) (2011-06-01 12:15:37) kdenlive...........? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311439