[New: openFATE 308480] Add Chromium browser to the distro
Feature added by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Feature #308480, revision 1 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Per Jessen (pjessen) Feature #308480, revision 2 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. + Discussion: + #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) + Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. + http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Feature #308480, revision 3 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html + #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) + I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or + planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 + months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has + been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be + ready to include it into the 11.3 release? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) Feature #308480, revision 4 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? + #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) + There's Chromium in Contrib. + Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and + gets so many extensions available. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Ken Yap (ken_yap) Feature #308480, revision 5 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. + #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) + Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by + then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) Feature #308480, revision 6 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. + #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) + As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to + include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in + Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about + that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by + Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Feature #308480, revision 7 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. + #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) + I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is + really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in + Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without + crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything + that's in there. + I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do + with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with + other development projects in the playground. From an end-user + perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with + the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, + who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: + Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox + was better than IE 6. But those days have past. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Per Jessen (pjessen) Feature #308480, revision 8 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html + #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) + Correction - a beta version is available here: + http://www.google.com/chrome/ + I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) Feature #308480, revision 9 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. + #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) + This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which + brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides + nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) Feature #308480, revision 11 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... + #9: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) (2010-02-19 08:26:40) (reply to + #8) + I think that video support (h.264 at least) is missing from Chromium - + one of _the_ killer features of Google Chrome. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: H. Hansen (cyberbeat) Feature #308480, revision 12 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... #9: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) (2010-02-19 08:26:40) (reply to #8) I think that video support (h.264 at least) is missing from Chromium - one of _the_ killer features of Google Chrome. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. + #10: H. Hansen (cyberbeat) (2010-03-07 23:34:26) + I use chromium from contrib for months now, and no problems appeared so + far. It is by far the most fast, usable and stable browser for linux + (before I used opera, but it gets more slow - loading, memory consuming + - every release). -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: jpxviii jpxviii (jpxviii) Feature #308480, revision 14 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important + openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + Priority + Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... #9: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) (2010-02-19 08:26:40) (reply to #8) I think that video support (h.264 at least) is missing from Chromium - one of _the_ killer features of Google Chrome. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. #10: H. Hansen (cyberbeat) (2010-03-07 23:34:26) I use chromium from contrib for months now, and no problems appeared so far. It is by far the most fast, usable and stable browser for linux (before I used opera, but it gets more slow - loading, memory consuming - every release). -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: jpxviii jpxviii (jpxviii) Feature #308480, revision 15 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro + Hackweek V: Unconfirmed + Priority + Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... #9: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) (2010-02-19 08:26:40) (reply to #8) I think that video support (h.264 at least) is missing from Chromium - one of _the_ killer features of Google Chrome. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. #10: H. Hansen (cyberbeat) (2010-03-07 23:34:26) I use chromium from contrib for months now, and no problems appeared so far. It is by far the most fast, usable and stable browser for linux (before I used opera, but it gets more slow - loading, memory consuming - every release). -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: jpxviii jpxviii (jpxviii) Feature #308480, revision 16 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro Hackweek V: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory + Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed + Priority + Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... #9: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) (2010-02-19 08:26:40) (reply to #8) I think that video support (h.264 at least) is missing from Chromium - one of _the_ killer features of Google Chrome. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. #10: H. Hansen (cyberbeat) (2010-03-07 23:34:26) I use chromium from contrib for months now, and no problems appeared so far. It is by far the most fast, usable and stable browser for linux (before I used opera, but it gets more slow - loading, memory consuming - every release). -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Vojtech Zeisek (vojtaeus) Feature #308480, revision 17 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro Hackweek V: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... #9: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) (2010-02-19 08:26:40) (reply to #8) I think that video support (h.264 at least) is missing from Chromium - one of _the_ killer features of Google Chrome. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. #10: H. Hansen (cyberbeat) (2010-03-07 23:34:26) I use chromium from contrib for months now, and no problems appeared so far. It is by far the most fast, usable and stable browser for linux (before I used opera, but it gets more slow - loading, memory consuming - every release). + #11: Vojtech Zeisek (vojtaeus) (2010-08-13 11:56:20) + Chromium is IMHO much worse than Firefox or Opera. Not so much settings + possibilities, much worse quality and stability of add-ons compared to + Firefox. I also faced many problems with crashing web pages. No, + thanks. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) Feature #308480, revision 18 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro Hackweek V: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... #9: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) (2010-02-19 08:26:40) (reply to #8) I think that video support (h.264 at least) is missing from Chromium - one of _the_ killer features of Google Chrome. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. #10: H. Hansen (cyberbeat) (2010-03-07 23:34:26) I use chromium from contrib for months now, and no problems appeared so far. It is by far the most fast, usable and stable browser for linux (before I used opera, but it gets more slow - loading, memory consuming - every release). #11: Vojtech Zeisek (vojtaeus) (2010-08-13 11:56:20) Chromium is IMHO much worse than Firefox or Opera. Not so much settings possibilities, much worse quality and stability of add-ons compared to Firefox. I also faced many problems with crashing web pages. No, thanks. + #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-08-13 17:49:03) (reply to #11) + When was the last time you tried Chromium? It hasn't crashed on me for + months now! -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #308480, revision 19 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro - Hackweek V: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) + reject date: 2010-11-04 14:47:09 + reject reason: not done. Priority Requester: Important - openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.4: New Priority - Requester: Important - openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed - Priority Requester: Mandatory - Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed + Package Wishlist: Done Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... #9: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) (2010-02-19 08:26:40) (reply to #8) I think that video support (h.264 at least) is missing from Chromium - one of _the_ killer features of Google Chrome. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. #10: H. Hansen (cyberbeat) (2010-03-07 23:34:26) I use chromium from contrib for months now, and no problems appeared so far. It is by far the most fast, usable and stable browser for linux (before I used opera, but it gets more slow - loading, memory consuming - every release). #11: Vojtech Zeisek (vojtaeus) (2010-08-13 11:56:20) Chromium is IMHO much worse than Firefox or Opera. Not so much settings possibilities, much worse quality and stability of add-ons compared to Firefox. I also faced many problems with crashing web pages. No, thanks. #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-08-13 17:49:03) (reply to #11) When was the last time you tried Chromium? It hasn't crashed on me for months now! + #13: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-11-04 14:46:59) (reply to #11) + Adding it is different from installing it by default... -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Alex Bars (alexdbars) Feature #308480, revision 20 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-11-04 14:47:09 reject reason: not done. Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Mandatory Package Wishlist: Done Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... #9: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) (2010-02-19 08:26:40) (reply to #8) I think that video support (h.264 at least) is missing from Chromium - one of _the_ killer features of Google Chrome. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. #10: H. Hansen (cyberbeat) (2010-03-07 23:34:26) I use chromium from contrib for months now, and no problems appeared so far. It is by far the most fast, usable and stable browser for linux (before I used opera, but it gets more slow - loading, memory consuming - every release). #11: Vojtech Zeisek (vojtaeus) (2010-08-13 11:56:20) Chromium is IMHO much worse than Firefox or Opera. Not so much settings possibilities, much worse quality and stability of add-ons compared to Firefox. I also faced many problems with crashing web pages. No, thanks. #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-08-13 17:49:03) (reply to #11) When was the last time you tried Chromium? It hasn't crashed on me for months now! #13: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-11-04 14:46:59) (reply to #11) Adding it is different from installing it by default... + #14: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-01 08:31:04) (reply to #11) + I agree, Chromium has great support and extensions and installed by + default!! -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Thomas Schmidt (digitaltomm) Feature #308480, revision 21 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro - openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) - reject date: 2010-11-04 14:47:09 - reject reason: not done. + openSUSE Distribution: New Priority - Requester: Important + Requester: Desirable - openSUSE-11.4: New - Priority - Requester: Mandatory Package Wishlist: Done Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... #9: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) (2010-02-19 08:26:40) (reply to #8) I think that video support (h.264 at least) is missing from Chromium - one of _the_ killer features of Google Chrome. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. #10: H. Hansen (cyberbeat) (2010-03-07 23:34:26) I use chromium from contrib for months now, and no problems appeared so far. It is by far the most fast, usable and stable browser for linux (before I used opera, but it gets more slow - loading, memory consuming - every release). #11: Vojtech Zeisek (vojtaeus) (2010-08-13 11:56:20) Chromium is IMHO much worse than Firefox or Opera. Not so much settings possibilities, much worse quality and stability of add-ons compared to Firefox. I also faced many problems with crashing web pages. No, thanks. #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-08-13 17:49:03) (reply to #11) When was the last time you tried Chromium? It hasn't crashed on me for months now! #13: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-11-04 14:46:59) (reply to #11) Adding it is different from installing it by default... #14: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-01 08:31:04) (reply to #11) I agree, Chromium has great support and extensions and installed by default!! -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: dilbert elbonia (100le) Feature #308480, revision 22 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE Distribution: New Priority Requester: Desirable Package Wishlist: Done Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... #9: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) (2010-02-19 08:26:40) (reply to #8) I think that video support (h.264 at least) is missing from Chromium - one of _the_ killer features of Google Chrome. + #15: dilbert elbonia (100le) (2011-05-27 10:38:23) (reply to #8) + Go to http://html5test.com/ with Chrome and Chromium and you'll see the + difference. On my machine chrome scores 274 points and Chromium scores + 234 points. The reason is mainly the Video/Audio tags. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. #10: H. Hansen (cyberbeat) (2010-03-07 23:34:26) I use chromium from contrib for months now, and no problems appeared so far. It is by far the most fast, usable and stable browser for linux (before I used opera, but it gets more slow - loading, memory consuming - every release). #11: Vojtech Zeisek (vojtaeus) (2010-08-13 11:56:20) Chromium is IMHO much worse than Firefox or Opera. Not so much settings possibilities, much worse quality and stability of add-ons compared to Firefox. I also faced many problems with crashing web pages. No, thanks. #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-08-13 17:49:03) (reply to #11) When was the last time you tried Chromium? It hasn't crashed on me for months now! #13: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-11-04 14:46:59) (reply to #11) Adding it is different from installing it by default... #14: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-01 08:31:04) (reply to #11) I agree, Chromium has great support and extensions and installed by default!! -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: James Mason (bear454) Feature #308480, revision 25 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro openSUSE Distribution: New Priority Requester: Desirable Package Wishlist: Done Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... #9: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) (2010-02-19 08:26:40) (reply to #8) I think that video support (h.264 at least) is missing from Chromium - one of _the_ killer features of Google Chrome. #15: dilbert elbonia (100le) (2011-05-27 10:38:23) (reply to #8) Go to http://html5test.com/ with Chrome and Chromium and you'll see the difference. On my machine chrome scores 274 points and Chromium scores 234 points. The reason is mainly the Video/Audio tags. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. #10: H. Hansen (cyberbeat) (2010-03-07 23:34:26) I use chromium from contrib for months now, and no problems appeared so far. It is by far the most fast, usable and stable browser for linux (before I used opera, but it gets more slow - loading, memory consuming - every release). #11: Vojtech Zeisek (vojtaeus) (2010-08-13 11:56:20) Chromium is IMHO much worse than Firefox or Opera. Not so much settings possibilities, much worse quality and stability of add-ons compared to Firefox. I also faced many problems with crashing web pages. No, thanks. #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-08-13 17:49:03) (reply to #11) When was the last time you tried Chromium? It hasn't crashed on me for months now! #13: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-11-04 14:46:59) (reply to #11) Adding it is different from installing it by default... #14: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-01 08:31:04) (reply to #11) I agree, Chromium has great support and extensions and installed by default!! + #16: James Mason (bear454) (2011-11-10 20:26:25) + While we're at it, we should include the Adwaita[1] or Oxygenlike[2] + themes as chromium-gnome and chromium-kde packages, respectively. [1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/oojbknijfmdmidgcgchmojbildmbdamm + [2] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hhdcpgghmjfomnkdeikoahadbejhfkmh# -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #308480, revision 27 Title: Add Chromium browser to the distro - openSUSE Distribution: New + openSUSE Distribution: Done Priority Requester: Desirable Package Wishlist: Done Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Google Chromium browser is taking over most Windows users desktops. Why? Because it is a very, very good browser that most Linux users want: minimalistic, fast and open-source. What more do we want? Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Chromium is a fast, minimalistic and open-source browser that is on a LOT of Windows desktops. Not only is it a great browser to use, but if a Windows user is used to it and can't have it on openSUSE, they won't switch. Discussion: #1: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-06 18:48:23) Google Chrome is not yet available for Linux. See e.g. http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/de/linux.html #7: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2009-12-08 18:17:28) (reply to #1) Correction - a beta version is available here: http://www.google.com/chrome/ I have to agree, it does appear to be very fast. #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-08 18:54:22) (reply to #7) This is a very poor effort from Google. The package requires lsb3 which brings also qt3 to system, it installs into /opt and AFAIK provides nothing that Chromium in Contrib does not have ... #9: Dominik Grafenhofer (dgrafenhofer) (2010-02-19 08:26:40) (reply to #8) I think that video support (h.264 at least) is missing from Chromium - one of _the_ killer features of Google Chrome. #15: dilbert elbonia (100le) (2011-05-27 10:38:23) (reply to #8) Go to http://html5test.com/ with Chrome and Chromium and you'll see the difference. On my machine chrome scores 274 points and Chromium scores 234 points. The reason is mainly the Video/Audio tags. #2: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-06 19:12:03) I am not familiar with the official guidelines for including code or planning for package releases into the distro, but since 11.3 is 6-7 months from now with a probable likelihood that the Linux version has been released by then, what do we need to do now (if anything) to be ready to include it into the 11.3 release? #3: Jakub Rusinek (liviopl) (2009-12-06 23:04:26) There's Chromium in Contrib. Don't replace Fireox with it yet, until it gets rock stable, usable and gets so many extensions available. #4: Ken Yap (ken_yap) (2009-12-06 23:41:13) Yes please add Chromium (not Chrome, unless it has been released by then) to 11.3 OSS so that it's easily available. #5: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-12-07 13:44:00) As Jakub mentioned we have Chromium in Contrib (so it makes no sense to include Chrome in distribution). Why is not Chromium directly in Factory? Well, spot had some very good notes about that: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html Until these are solved by Google I don't see us putting Chromium in Factory. #6: Frank Vanderham (twelveeighty) (2009-12-08 06:36:49) I'm not sure how to put this without ticking some people off (which is really not my intent), but don't we have far less stable packages in Factory right now? I've been using Chromium 4.0.249.22 for days without crashes or restarting, which is not something I can say of everything that's in there. I read the livejournal article: the author mentions no big issues to do with stability / bugs. It's all about the way Google interacts with other development projects in the playground. From an end-user perspective, I couldn't care less if even Microsoft was engaged with the project. As long as they abide by the legalities of open-source, who cares that they shake up the community a little? Reality check: Chromium is a better product than Firefox much the same that Firefox was better than IE 6. But those days have past. #10: H. Hansen (cyberbeat) (2010-03-07 23:34:26) I use chromium from contrib for months now, and no problems appeared so far. It is by far the most fast, usable and stable browser for linux (before I used opera, but it gets more slow - loading, memory consuming - every release). #11: Vojtech Zeisek (vojtaeus) (2010-08-13 11:56:20) Chromium is IMHO much worse than Firefox or Opera. Not so much settings possibilities, much worse quality and stability of add-ons compared to Firefox. I also faced many problems with crashing web pages. No, thanks. #12: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2010-08-13 17:49:03) (reply to #11) When was the last time you tried Chromium? It hasn't crashed on me for months now! #13: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-11-04 14:46:59) (reply to #11) Adding it is different from installing it by default... #14: Alex Bars (alexdbars) (2010-12-01 08:31:04) (reply to #11) I agree, Chromium has great support and extensions and installed by default!! #16: James Mason (bear454) (2011-11-10 20:26:25) While we're at it, we should include the Adwaita[1] or Oxygenlike[2] themes as chromium-gnome and chromium-kde packages, respectively. [1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/oojbknijfmdmidgcgchmojbildmbdamm [2] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hhdcpgghmjfomnkdeikoahadbejhfkmh# -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308480
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