Feature changed by: Juergen Weigert (jnweiger) Feature #306580, revision 5 Title: provide trademark-neutral branding packages openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Juergen Weigert (jnweiger) Description: Wit 11.2 we plan to  provide e.g. * MozillaFirefox-branding-opensuse.rpm and * MozillaFirefox-branding-upstream.rpm for the user to easily substitute our branding with an original upstream branding. This implements opensuse trademark guidelines for modified distributions, but in case of Firefox, we should also provide a * MozillaFirefox-branding-template-neutral.rpm or similar  to also implement Mozilla trademark guidelines. Discussion: #1: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2009-07-09 14:42:30) What's the benefit here? I think the two branding packages should solve the large majority of use cases. If somebody wants a "neutral" branding, they can add it - but I would not push it. + #2: Juergen Weigert (jnweiger) (2009-07-09 17:17:31) (reply to #1) + Close this as invalid, if the upstream branding features iceweasel, + otherwise benefit  of my suggestion is an option not to violate either + parties trademark. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306580

Feature changed by: Michael Löffler (michl19) Feature #306580, revision 7 Title: provide trademark-neutral branding packages openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Juergen Weigert (jnweiger) Description: Wit 11.2 we plan to  provide e.g. * MozillaFirefox-branding-opensuse.rpm and * MozillaFirefox-branding-upstream.rpm for the user to easily substitute our branding with an original upstream branding. This implements opensuse trademark guidelines for modified distributions, but in case of Firefox, we should also provide a * MozillaFirefox-branding-template-neutral.rpm or similar  to also implement Mozilla trademark guidelines. Discussion: #1: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2009-07-09 14:42:30) What's the benefit here? I think the two branding packages should solve the large majority of use cases. If somebody wants a "neutral" branding, they can add it - but I would not push it. #2: Juergen Weigert (jnweiger) (2009-07-09 17:17:31) (reply to #1) Close this as invalid, if the upstream branding features iceweasel, otherwise benefit  of my suggestion is an option not to violate either parties trademark. #3: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2009-07-10 10:57:49) (reply to #2) Now I understand what you want: You want to have some kind of branding that does not need to get approved by the Mozilla Foundation Wolfgang, does this make sense? + #4: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-07-10 12:13:12) + Imo this is just a corner case use case and think we shouldn't waste + effort on it - which actually already indicated as even for the + requster its only "desirable". So I would reject it. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306580

Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #306580, revision 9 Title: provide trademark-neutral branding packages - openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation + openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) + reject date: 2009-07-10 13:32:48 + reject reason: This is not as easy possible as suggested. Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Juergen Weigert (jnweiger) Description: Wit 11.2 we plan to  provide e.g. * MozillaFirefox-branding-opensuse.rpm and * MozillaFirefox-branding-upstream.rpm for the user to easily substitute our branding with an original upstream branding. This implements opensuse trademark guidelines for modified distributions, but in case of Firefox, we should also provide a * MozillaFirefox-branding-template-neutral.rpm or similar  to also implement Mozilla trademark guidelines. Discussion: #1: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2009-07-09 14:42:30) What's the benefit here? I think the two branding packages should solve the large majority of use cases. If somebody wants a "neutral" branding, they can add it - but I would not push it. #2: Juergen Weigert (jnweiger) (2009-07-09 17:17:31) (reply to #1) Close this as invalid, if the upstream branding features iceweasel, otherwise benefit  of my suggestion is an option not to violate either parties trademark. #3: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2009-07-10 10:57:49) (reply to #2) Now I understand what you want: You want to have some kind of branding that does not need to get approved by the Mozilla Foundation Wolfgang, does this make sense? #5: Wolfgang Rosenauer (wrosenauer) (2009-07-10 12:47:01) (reply to #3) I still don't fully understand the request. Currently we have Mozillafirefox-branding-upstream which keeps the original preferences and bookmarks (and similar things) but it still is based on the MozillaFirefox binary package and therefore contains specific patches which may need approval and build specific settings. If the target is to provide a completely unbranded Firefox (like Iceweasel) that's not _that_ easy because even the name MozillaFirefox and MozillaFirefox-branding-template-neutral would be covered by the trademark license. So if we need a set of packages which provide a thing like iceweasel we probably need to rename MozillaFirefox to something else and only brand it by MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE. I need to check if that can be done sharing one binary package as the "official" branding could be compiled into the binary as well. In that case we would need to ship another binary package (which would be at least no size issue as both can be based on mozilla-xulrunnerXXX). #4: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-07-10 12:13:12) Imo this is just a corner case use case and think we shouldn't waste effort on it - which actually already indicated as even for the requster its only "desirable". So I would reject it. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306580