Feature changed by: Jeremy Thornton (leebrad) Feature #310530, revision 3 Title: 4 Options for better SUSE install and backup flexibility openFATE: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Jeremy Thornton (leebrad) Description: I would like to see the same installation flexibility for SUSE as is - available for Ubuntu. + available for Ubuntu and Fedora. SUSE uses a wonderfully polished installer, however, the following features are either missing or I am not informed on how to use the following, which I think would be a great addition to SUSE distro and suse studio for the average or even small business user. - 1. Install option as a Windows Application like Ubuntu; and, - 2. Install easily onto a USB drive using utilities like Ubuntu and - Fedora provide; - 3. Create the SUSE Studio to look like the installer so that it easier - to choose packages as if you were actually installing SUSE and then add - the additional customizations needed. + 1. Install/Remove option as a Windows Application like Ubuntu; + 2. Install easily onto a USB drive using GUI utilities like Ubuntu and + Fedora provide (dd is an option but more linux minded rather than a + branded GUI utility like LiveCD creator by Fedora or Ubuntu) + 3. Adjust the SUSE Studio to look like the installer so that it easier + to choose packages as if one was actually installing the SUSE distro + and then add the additional customizations needed, rather than only a + package by package option as is currently offered from my usage with + SUSE studio. (Fedora Revisor and Reconstructor for Ubuntu). This would + prevent alot of package errors from appearing in production saving both + development time and server rebuild resources to fix any errors. 4. Provide a backup utility like remastersys that works on SUSE providing a rebuild of a live cd for backup or distribution to friends, family, or colleagues. I think these 4 implementations would increase the flexibility of SUSE installations, customization, and distribution. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310530

Feature changed by: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) Feature #310530, revision 5 Title: 4 Options for better SUSE install and backup flexibility openFATE: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Jeremy Thornton (leebrad) Description: I would like to see the same installation flexibility for SUSE as is available for Ubuntu and Fedora. SUSE uses a wonderfully polished installer, however, the following features are either missing or I am not informed on how to use the following, which I think would be a great addition to SUSE distro and suse studio for the average or even small business user. 1. Install/Remove option as a Windows Application like Ubuntu; 2. Install easily onto a USB drive using GUI utilities like Ubuntu and Fedora provide (dd is an option but more linux minded rather than a branded GUI utility like LiveCD creator by Fedora or Ubuntu which appeal to the average user or even techno person to save time) 3. Adjust the SUSE Studio to look like the installer so that it easier to choose packages as if one was actually installing the SUSE distro and then add the additional customizations needed, rather than only a package by package option as is currently offered from my usage with SUSE studio. (Fedora Revisor and Reconstructor for Ubuntu). This would prevent alot of package errors from appearing in production saving both development time and server rebuild resources to fix any errors. 4. Provide a backup utility like remastersys that works on SUSE providing a rebuild of a live cd for backup or distribution to friends, family, or colleagues. KIWI might be an option but no where near as simple. I think these 4 implementations would increase the flexibility of SUSE installations, customization, and distribution. + Discussion: + #1: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2010-09-17 17:12:05) + 1. "Windows like ubuntu on openSUSE"... that really sounds like the + "Debian tool converted to Ubuntu using openSUSE" from http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Dell-release-OpenManage-Server-Admini... + . What is actually wrong with yast2-packager? + 2. yast2 is capable of installing onto USB. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310530

Feature changed by: Alexandr Mityunin (xandry) Feature #310530, revision 7 Title: 4 Options for better SUSE install and backup flexibility openFATE: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Jeremy Thornton (leebrad) Description: I would like to see the same installation flexibility for SUSE as is available for Ubuntu and Fedora. SUSE uses a wonderfully polished installer, however, the following features are either missing or I am not informed on how to use the following, which I think would be a great addition to SUSE distro and suse studio for the average or even small business user. 1. Install/Remove option as a Windows Application like Ubuntu (wubi.exe like feature). 2. Install easily onto a USB drive using GUI utilities like Ubuntu and Fedora provide (dd is an option but more linux minded rather than a branded GUI utility like LiveCD creator by Fedora or Ubuntu which appeal to the average user or even techno person to save time) - Key being GUI not many command lines for newer users or to save time for even advanced users. 3. Adjust the SUSE Studio to look like the installer so that it easier to choose packages as if one was actually installing the SUSE distro and then add the additional customizations needed, rather than only a package by package option as is currently offered from my usage with SUSE studio. (Fedora Revisor and Reconstructor for Ubuntu). This would prevent alot of package errors from appearing in production saving both development time and server rebuild resources to fix any errors. 4. Provide a backup utility like remastersys that works on SUSE providing a rebuild of a live cd for backup or distribution to friends, family, or colleagues. KIWI might be an option but no where near as simple. I think these 4 implementations would increase the flexibility of SUSE installations, customization, and distribution. Discussion: #1: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2010-09-17 17:12:05) 1. "Windows like ubuntu on openSUSE"... that really sounds like the "Debian tool converted to Ubuntu using openSUSE" from http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Dell-release-OpenManage-Server-Admini... . What is actually wrong with yast2-packager? 2. yast2 is capable of installing onto USB. #2: Jeremy Thornton (leebrad) (2010-09-17 17:43:42) (reply to #1) In re to your comments for 1. I am referring to the ability to install OpenSUSE as a Windows Application as Ubuntu offers. Insert disc, wubi. exe launches, and installs Ubuntu as an application inside windows. This offers installation flexibility for new users or ease of install for dual boot systems without repartitioning. I was never referring to the packager install add/remove. In re to your comments for 2. Capability does not guarantee success or ease of use. Just because a car a stick shfit car has the capability to drive smoothly does not mean the driver knows how to operate it correctly and efficiently. My point being that if yast2 has the capability it should be refined as a clear option for installation flexibility like the competitors. If SUSE does not remain innovative and competitive on ease of use and flexibility then it will loose the potential of new users. I am not talking about the techno linux fans, I am talking about people who are just testing the water, but instead of them saying wow that's neat with Ubuntu, they should say it with OpenSUSE! + #3: Alexandr Mityunin (xandry) (2010-09-25 14:46:02) + 4. yast2-backup + live usb/cd -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310530

Feature changed by: akash vishwakarma (vish_99) Feature #310530, revision 9 Title: 4 Options for better SUSE install and backup flexibility - openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.4: Rejected by akash vishwakarma (vish_99) + reject reason: 11.4 support finished and most of the features present Priority Requester: Important - Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed + Package Wishlist: Rejected by akash vishwakarma (vish_99) + reject reason: features asked present Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Jeremy Thornton (leebrad) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: I would like to see the same installation flexibility for SUSE as is available for Ubuntu and Fedora. SUSE uses a wonderfully polished installer, however, the following features are either missing or I am not informed on how to use the following, which I think would be a great addition to SUSE distro and suse studio for the average or even small business user. 1. Install/Remove option as a Windows Application like Ubuntu (wubi.exe like feature). 2. Install easily onto a USB drive using GUI utilities like Ubuntu and Fedora provide (dd is an option but more linux minded rather than a branded GUI utility like LiveCD creator by Fedora or Ubuntu which appeal to the average user or even techno person to save time) - Key being GUI not many command lines for newer users or to save time for even advanced users. 3. Adjust the SUSE Studio to look like the installer so that it easier to choose packages as if one was actually installing the SUSE distro and then add the additional customizations needed, rather than only a package by package option as is currently offered from my usage with SUSE studio. (Fedora Revisor and Reconstructor for Ubuntu). This would prevent alot of package errors from appearing in production saving both development time and server rebuild resources to fix any errors. 4. Provide a backup utility like remastersys that works on SUSE providing a rebuild of a live cd for backup or distribution to friends, family, or colleagues. KIWI might be an option but no where near as simple. I think these 4 implementations would increase the flexibility of SUSE installations, customization, and distribution. Discussion: #1: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2010-09-17 17:12:05) 1. "Windows like ubuntu on openSUSE"... that really sounds like the "Debian tool converted to Ubuntu using openSUSE" from http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Dell-release-OpenManage-Server-Admini... . What is actually wrong with yast2-packager? 2. yast2 is capable of installing onto USB. #2: Jeremy Thornton (leebrad) (2010-09-17 17:43:42) (reply to #1) In re to your comments for 1. I am referring to the ability to install OpenSUSE as a Windows Application as Ubuntu offers. Insert disc, wubi. exe launches, and installs Ubuntu as an application inside windows. This offers installation flexibility for new users or ease of install for dual boot systems without repartitioning. I was never referring to the packager install add/remove. In re to your comments for 2. Capability does not guarantee success or ease of use. Just because a car a stick shfit car has the capability to drive smoothly does not mean the driver knows how to operate it correctly and efficiently. My point being that if yast2 has the capability it should be refined as a clear option for installation flexibility like the competitors. If SUSE does not remain innovative and competitive on ease of use and flexibility then it will loose the potential of new users. I am not talking about the techno linux fans, I am talking about people who are just testing the water, but instead of them saying wow that's neat with Ubuntu, they should say it with OpenSUSE! #3: Alexandr Mityunin (xandry) (2010-09-25 14:46:02) 4. yast2-backup + live usb/cd -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310530