[New: openFATE 310802] Hardware TestSuite + S.M.O.L.T Windows client
Feature added by: Sławomir Lach (Lachu) Feature #310802, revision 1 Title: Hardware TestSuite + S.M.O.L.T Windows client openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Sławomir Lach (lachu) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Windows users always complain, there's no hardware compatybility on Linux. They even won't test LiveCD. LiveCD don't always can show full hardware support, like restricted drivers in action. Imagine, that OpenSUSE users will run hardware test suite afterinstallation and installation of restricted drivers. Result will be connected with hardware profile in S.M.O.L.T . With S.M.O.LT Windows client Windows user can match result from test suite database with thier hardware. Use Case: User have download S.M.O.L.T Windows Client and see results. If results are somethink: you may to install restricted drivers after OpenSUSE installation to your graphics adapter or everything will be working, then user will install OpenSUSE, eventually install restricted drivers and run Test Suite. Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Actually many Windows user are scary about hardware support on Linux. They even won't install or test OpenSUSE. We need greater market to make OpenSUSE better. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310802
Feature changed by: Satoru Matsumoto (HeliosReds) Feature #310802, revision 2 Title: Hardware TestSuite + S.M.O.L.T Windows client openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Sławomir Lach (lachu) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Windows users always complain, there's no hardware compatybility on Linux. They even won't test LiveCD. LiveCD don't always can show full hardware support, like restricted drivers in action. Imagine, that OpenSUSE users will run hardware test suite afterinstallation and installation of restricted drivers. Result will be connected with hardware profile in S.M.O.L.T . With S.M.O.LT Windows client Windows user can match result from test suite database with thier hardware. Use Case: User have download S.M.O.L.T Windows Client and see results. If results are somethink: you may to install restricted drivers after OpenSUSE installation to your graphics adapter or everything will be working, then user will install OpenSUSE, eventually install restricted drivers and run Test Suite. Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Actually many Windows user are scary about hardware support on Linux. They even won't install or test OpenSUSE. We need greater market to make OpenSUSE better. + Discussion: + #1: Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) (2010-11-12 05:13:53) + Is there S.M.O.L.T Windows Client or development project already? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310802
Feature changed by: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) Feature #310802, revision 3 Title: Hardware TestSuite + S.M.O.L.T Windows client openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Sławomir Lach (lachu) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Windows users always complain, there's no hardware compatybility on Linux. They even won't test LiveCD. LiveCD don't always can show full hardware support, like restricted drivers in action. Imagine, that OpenSUSE users will run hardware test suite afterinstallation and installation of restricted drivers. Result will be connected with hardware profile in S.M.O.L.T . With S.M.O.LT Windows client Windows user can match result from test suite database with thier hardware. Use Case: User have download S.M.O.L.T Windows Client and see results. If results are somethink: you may to install restricted drivers after OpenSUSE installation to your graphics adapter or everything will be working, then user will install OpenSUSE, eventually install restricted drivers and run Test Suite. Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Actually many Windows user are scary about hardware support on Linux. They even won't install or test OpenSUSE. We need greater market to make OpenSUSE better. Discussion: #1: Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) (2010-11-12 05:13:53) Is there S.M.O.L.T Windows Client or development project already? + #2: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2010-12-10 04:59:38) + Fact that some users don't want to run Live CD is something that any + kind of hardware compatibility list will not change, but elaboration on + that is another story. Live CD can be used as indication about hardware + compatibility, not as comprehensive test. Smolt windows client is not + really possible. Smolt consists from data collection and reporting + parts. Reporting part is written in Python, and it can probably run + under the windows if there is python runtime (some kind of shell) for + windows. Data collection part is almost impossible to create. Hardware + test suite that will collect data in windows would have to provide same + functionality as Linux kernel, plus ability to switch between windows + and Linux on the run. If that would be easy, then we would not have + dual boot, or virtual machines, but simple installation in parallel + where both systems will run as we need them. The closest match to this + is Xen with its hypervisor, but it offers its own hardware drivers to + operating systems running on top of it, so there will be tested + compatibility with hypervisor not with real hardware. + I guess that this feature is software equivalent of MI (mission + impossible) - not entirely impossible, but very unlikely to happen in a + real world. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310802
Feature changed by: Thomas Schmidt (digitaltomm) Feature #310802, revision 4 Title: Hardware TestSuite + S.M.O.L.T Windows client - openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.4: Rejected by Thomas Schmidt (digitaltomm) + reject reason: Sorry, this seems not to be doable for us.. Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Sławomir Lach (lachu) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Windows users always complain, there's no hardware compatybility on Linux. They even won't test LiveCD. LiveCD don't always can show full hardware support, like restricted drivers in action. Imagine, that OpenSUSE users will run hardware test suite afterinstallation and installation of restricted drivers. Result will be connected with hardware profile in S.M.O.L.T . With S.M.O.LT Windows client Windows user can match result from test suite database with thier hardware. Use Case: User have download S.M.O.L.T Windows Client and see results. If results are somethink: you may to install restricted drivers after OpenSUSE installation to your graphics adapter or everything will be working, then user will install OpenSUSE, eventually install restricted drivers and run Test Suite. Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Actually many Windows user are scary about hardware support on Linux. They even won't install or test OpenSUSE. We need greater market to make OpenSUSE better. Discussion: #1: Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) (2010-11-12 05:13:53) Is there S.M.O.L.T Windows Client or development project already? #2: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2010-12-10 04:59:38) Fact that some users don't want to run Live CD is something that any kind of hardware compatibility list will not change, but elaboration on that is another story. Live CD can be used as indication about hardware compatibility, not as comprehensive test. Smolt windows client is not really possible. Smolt consists from data collection and reporting parts. Reporting part is written in Python, and it can probably run under the windows if there is python runtime (some kind of shell) for windows. Data collection part is almost impossible to create. Hardware test suite that will collect data in windows would have to provide same functionality as Linux kernel, plus ability to switch between windows and Linux on the run. If that would be easy, then we would not have dual boot, or virtual machines, but simple installation in parallel where both systems will run as we need them. The closest match to this is Xen with its hypervisor, but it offers its own hardware drivers to operating systems running on top of it, so there will be tested compatibility with hypervisor not with real hardware. I guess that this feature is software equivalent of MI (mission impossible) - not entirely impossible, but very unlikely to happen in a real world. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310802
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