Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #308892, revision 20 Title: Replace scim with IBUS openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-11-08 16:49:56 reject reason: Not done for 11.3. Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.4: Rejected by Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) reject reason: 11.4 has been already released. Priority Requester: Important - openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed + openSUSE Distribution: Evaluation by engineering manager Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Mingxi Wu (mingxi_wu) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: SCIM upstream is almost dead. We should not keep an unmaintained software in openSUSE. IBUS (http://code.google.com/p/ibus/), a new developed input method is very active and full functionality, and other distributions like Ubuntu (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/desktop-karmic-input-methods) and Fedora already had done this. We have some contributors done the IBUS packaging at OBS https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home:swyear:ibus . Everything is OK on my openSUSE 11.2 box except fail to enable it in a gnomesu window, but this is not a problem as other distributions don't have this bug. Discussion: #1: Rémy Marquis (spyhawk) (2010-03-02 08:32:22) ibus in openSUSE by default would be great. Also, ibus seems to solve many problems that occur with others IME under Linux (such as no dead keys for no-US keyboard), and is far better integrated under KDE4, thanks to kimpanel. I am using the packages of swyear and everything is working without problem. #2: Vincent Untz (vuntz) (2010-08-24 10:14:31) We should do this for 11.4. #3: Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) (2010-08-25 06:05:25) As I posted to -m17n list before, there have been some problems in inputting with iBus on Flash sites. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-m17n/2010-03/msg00001.html Please go to http://bugzilla-attachments.mozilla.gr.jp/attachment.cgi?id=2275 for validation. Using Firefox (and also Chromium) on openSUSE 11.3 x86_64, I can't input any characters into input box on that site with iBus. SCIM also has a similar problem (cannot launch SCIM-Anthy), but I can input ASCII characters with SCIM at least. (As far as I confirmed, launching Firefox (and also Chromium) with 'GTK_IM_MODULE=xim' will be the solution for this problem both for iBus and SCIM) In addition, we don't have a substitution of scim-input-pad (necessary for inputting special characters) for iBus ATM. There's a project 'Input Pad' and we can find the source code of 'ibus-input-pad' there, but it hasn't been packaged for openSUSE yet. I think these problems should be solved before replacing SCIM with iBus. #5: Rémy Marquis (spyhawk) (2010-12-05 22:45:29) (reply to #3) It seems the Flash bug has been solved with recent Flash release. Thus, I guess nothing is preventing us to deprecate SCIM now. #4: Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) (2010-08-25 06:18:04) 'Input Pad' Project site: http://code.google.com/p/input-pad/ See also: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=604500 #6: Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) (2011-05-05 05:03:33) There seem to be few disadvantages of replacing SCIM with iBus as a default input framework ATM. Although a bug (kimpanel(?) will be disappeared from task bar on KDE when we install GNOME 3) is reported to -ja list and should be solved until 12.1, I have no objection to replace SCIM with iBus now. #7: M Koyama (suse-koyama) (2011-05-05 10:31:58) I think scim is not stable. I's better Replace scim with IBUS. #8: Ray chen (swyear) (2011-06-15 15:53:35) ibus is now mature enough, many distributions had use ibus as default input method for years. I think it's OK for most people. and we can also ship scim, fcitx, gcin... in DVD as alternative choise + #9: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2011-07-18 14:06:58) + So, what is the status of this? I've seen new ibus packages, is it time + to make it the default? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308892