Feature changed by: Michal Marek (michal-m) Feature #310491, revision 19 Title: Add dracut to openSUSE openSUSE-11.4: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2011-08-12 20:08:31 reject reason: not done for 11.4 Priority Requester: Important openSUSE Distribution: Evaluation by engineering manager Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Luis Medinas (lmedinas) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Dracut is suppose to be a replacement for the old initrd tools like mkinitrd. From the project description, dracut is an initramfs infrastructure. Unlike previous initramfs systems, Dracut aims to have as little as possible hard-coded into the initramfs. It contains specific configuration files for init drivers and includes plymouth support. Dracut advantage seems to be a modern replacement to generate initrd and it's suppose to be easy to use/manage. See http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/dracut/wiki for details. Discussion: #1: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2010-09-19 17:02:28) NEGATIVE. openSUSE has replaced its mkinitrd by a new implementation in 11.2 that is equally flexible, if not even better than dracut. It certainly is easier to jump into how it's supposed to work. With the dracut as shipped on F-13 I can't really say the same. If you ever ran `mkinitrd -h` on SUSE... well just try finding the equivalents in dracut. You don't. #6: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-11-03 13:21:48) (reply to #1) From the discussions at the openSUSE conference, I see interest in doing this. Let's talk together and decide what's best. IMO working on a common solution has its benefits - and if there are usability problems, we should be able to improve dracut. #7: Luis Medinas (lmedinas) (2010-11-03 14:47:43) (reply to #6) I worked a few weeks ago on adding *SUSE support on dracut but looks like Harold finished the job for me. I guess having both on Factory doesn't hurt and on the release cycle we should decide what fits best for the job. Now i think we should clean Harold spec and SR to Factory. #2: Nelson Marques (ketheriel) (2010-09-27 01:50:15) If Plymouth will move in, most likely dracut would help since it supports plymouth and that can do a lot on soften plymouth introduction to many users. just a random thought... #3: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2010-10-03 02:10:18) (reply to #2) It's not like smkinitrd would not be able to support plymouth. #4: Rémy Marquis (spyhawk) (2010-11-03 13:10:07) A similar entry has been opened here: https://features.opensuse.org/310784# (https://features.opensuse.org/310784#) #5: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-11-03 13:16:55) (reply to #4) I did not find this entry, so let me mark 310784 as duplicate now. #8: Hannes Reinecke (hreinecke) (2010-11-05 08:27:29) Yes, I do agree, mkinitrd might be easier to use. And the paragraph about plymouth is just pointless, as I'm not aware we're using plymouth anywhere in the distro. However, I (as one of the main authors of mkinitrd) am in favour of this feature. The main problem with mkinitrd is that we (as in the openSUSE community) failed to get any public traction here. The number of external commits to mkinitrd are zero. Whereas dracut has an active mailinglist and numerous contributors. It might be inferior in some places, but that doesn't mean we cannot improve it. And the other big advantage here is that we will be picking up any new features automatically, without us having to re-implement it in mkinitrd. #9: Robert Xu (bravoall1552) (2011-03-19 00:36:55) Since openSUSE 11.4 is already released, shouldn't we aim for openSUSE 11.5 now? #10: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2011-03-19 18:31:34) If the main benefit is what Hannes describes, and assuming that dracut is not or will not be mkinitrd plug-compatible, it seems like significant effort for little gain. (I'm biased, I like mkintrd). #11: Jose Ricardo De Leon Solis (derhundchen) (2011-08-12 07:57:24) I'm trying to bring this feature back as we are moving to systemd. Apparently there are some neat things systemd does that require dracut. While it might be late for 12.1, I think we should definitely consider it for 12.2 + #13: Michal Marek (michal-m) (2011-08-13 14:16:14) + AFAIK, Frederic is interested in adding Dracut. I never had time to do + this. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310491