Feature changed by: Christian Wansart (Ctwx) Feature #310778, revision 31 Title: Project Bretzn app-store to be integrated into opensuse 11.4 openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: http://news.opensuse.org/2010/10/26/from-the-developer-to-the-user-and-back-... Purpose: 1) Make it easy for developers to release an application 2) Make it easy for developers to market and for users to learn about that application 3) Make it easy for users to install the application Project Bretzn consists of three parts: the building of the package, the publishing of the application, the marketing to the users and the feedback cycle back to the developer. The building part consists of plugins for IDE’s and integration with Build Services and using Lubos Lunak’s OBS Generator (http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4177) (yes, still looking for a new name (http://michal.hrusecky.net/index.php/blog/show/kde-obs-generator-is-looking-... 21--1.html) ) to automatically generate cross-platform build files. Publishing sends the app to a variety of App Stores and then markets it through announcing it on Facebook, Twitter, via a RSS feed and the Social Desktop (http://socialdesktop.org/) . Finally, users can provide feedback by rating the application and commenting on it, by writing bug reports and send messages to mailing lists or forums. And all of that with one click (well, maybe a few more). Status: Over 70% of the work is done already and the team is aiming to ship in December. They are working with other openSUSE developers to make a proof-of-concept App Store for openSUSE using OBS and the other integration which will hopefully ship in the upcoming openSUSE 11.4 release. This sounds like the kind of thing we want! Discussion: #1: Jedi Beeftrix (jedibeeftrix) (2010-12-29 13:14:37) update on Bretzn: http://blog.karlitschek.de/2010/12/beta-of-qt-creator-buildservice-plugin.ht... #2: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet) (2010-12-29 16:00:37) End of Januari a Bretzn sprint will be held in the openSUSE offices in Nuremberg, part of the goal is to integrate it better in openSUSE. Hopefully we can make this happen ;-) #3: Jedi Beeftrix (jedibeeftrix) (2010-12-29 22:58:24) (reply to #2) thank you Jos, I look forward to seeing bretzn integrated into 11.4. #4: Nelson Marques (ketheriel) (2011-01-01 15:50:35) I find the terminology 'store' misplaced for a community freely available linux distribution. #5: Jedi Beeftrix (jedibeeftrix) (2011-01-12 17:38:58) (reply to #4) Why? "Current features of the API include categories, screen shots, change logs, commenting, rating, search and update notification. Furthermore, applications can be either free or paid and the payment goes directly to the developer. Not all AppStore clients include all features right now, the KDE GHNS client is probably the most complete as it has been around for many years." It is possible to make financial transactions in return for apps........... #6: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet) (2011-01-13 17:32:13) (reply to #5) hmmm, I think I understand Nelson here - store sounds much more commercial than we are as openSUSE ;-) The reason for the name 'appstore' is because it is familiar to many people. Let's be honest, Yast already provides what really is an appstore - zypper does nothing else than Apple's appstore. Sure, a 'proper' appstore looks a bit better, is easier, allows 'external' parties to enter apps etc - but in the end it's not different from the distribution repositories we've had for what, 15 years? So the main reason to work on an openSUSE 'appstore' is because we want to piggy-back on the popularity of the term. Now THAT is surely an argument Nelson can fully support, I would think. #7: Jedi Beeftrix (jedibeeftrix) (2011-01-14 13:18:36) (reply to #6) i accept the point. :) #8: Jedi Beeftrix (jedibeeftrix) (2011-01-27 12:50:16) major distro's to collaborate on app-store framework, opensuse to use ubuntu app-store front end via policykit: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTA1MA #10: Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet) (2011-01-29 06:06:35) (reply to #8) not really a correct article, we won't be using Ubuntu's appstore for one. Bretzn will create our appstore as the next link you posted shows :D #11: Jedi Beeftrix (jedibeeftrix) (2011-01-31 17:09:06) (reply to #10) cheers, that became apparent yesterday when frank replied to a similar question on opensuse news. :) #9: Jedi Beeftrix (jedibeeftrix) (2011-01-28 14:50:53) Opensuse app-store starts to take shape, looking good for opensuse 11.4: http://news.opensuse.org/2011/01/27/first-bretzn-sprint-opensuse-app-store-o... #12: Konstantinos Koudaras (warlordfff) (2011-02-22 22:08:46) I proposed to look at this idea into GSOC ideas wiki page . We are looking for mentors so if anyone wants to help, please add your name in the wiki page (http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GSOC_2011_Ideas ) #13: Jedi Beeftrix (jedibeeftrix) (2011-02-23 15:31:00) (reply to #12) does this mean we won't see it in 11.4, or are you suggesting a GSOC project to expand the scope of Bretzn, eg commercial payment options, etc? #14: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) (2011-02-23 16:02:25) (reply to #13) Bretzn is not in 11.4 as far as I know. #15: Jedi Beeftrix (jedibeeftrix) (2011-02-24 11:38:46) (reply to #14) thank you. :( #16: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2011-02-24 15:26:26) (reply to #15) Bretzn / AppStream is targeting to a November release. You can see the estimated timeline at: http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream/ActionItems (http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream/ActionItems) It's sad to have to wait so long but hey, they're doing it ;) #17: Jedi Beeftrix (jedibeeftrix) (2011-06-01 12:21:37) (reply to #16) many thanks. #18: Jedi Beeftrix (jedibeeftrix) (2011-06-24 11:30:20) (reply to #16) is there anything to actually see on that page? i cannot see any kind of schedule at all............. #19: Mário Castanheira (speccyman) (2011-06-27 17:23:24) (reply to #18) well, i think they had some problems with spam and when they locked the pages the schedule was gone. You can see it here: http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream/ActionItems?action=diff&rev1=56&rev2=57 (http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream/ActionItems?action=diff&rev1=56&rev2=57) and if you want you can also follow Alex Eftimie's work. He is a (Google Summer of Code (GSOC) student that is also working on the Appstream project. Here are 2 links that you may like: His Blog about GSOC: http://alex.eftimie.ro/category/gsoc/ (http://alex.eftimie.ro/category/gsoc/) And His Calendar: http://swarm.cs.pub.ro/~alexef/gsoc/gsoc-calendar.html (http://swarm.cs.pub.ro/~alexef/gsoc/gsoc-calendar.html) hope i've been of any help ;) + #20: Christian Wansart (ctwx) (2011-06-28 10:17:59) + I think this is a nice idea but please, don't replace YaST with it. I + think, it would be great to have both. I like YaST the way it is. It + provides a lot of features which are useful if you're searching for new + software. + Perhaps Bretzn could replace (in KDE) KPackageKit. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310778