Feature changed by: Genix Info (genixinfo) Feature #312629, revision 16 Title: openSUSE Linux: Make it Global (Worldwide) in the World. openSUSE Distribution: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2011-07-19 09:40:12 reject reason: This is a marketing theme, not a feature request for the distribution. Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Genix Info (genixinfo) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: openSUSE Linux: Make it Global (Worldwide) in the World. Making the project's origins openSUSE Linux, which was founded by Novell, with the support of the community, truly Global (Worldwide) as it is on the project website: http://en.opensuse.org/Main_Page (http://en.opensuse.org/Main_Page) . Debian (http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian) has its origin in DistroWatch as Global, and has the slogan: The Universal Operating System. OpenSUSE Linux distributions is one of the world and used by users of various profiles: Desktop, Computer Graphics, audio and video editing, developers, servers, among other areas, in different architectures and multiple languages, which makes openSUSE Linux can also be like Debian, a Linux distribution on DistroWatch (http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=suse) global source and all that is talked about in openSUSE Linux world. A new slogan for the openSUSE Linux: Linux Global for open minds. Discussion: #1: Genix Info (genixinfo) (2011-07-13 00:06:37) See this link: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/other-forums/looking-something-other-than... (http://forums.opensuse.org/english/other-forums/looking-something-other-than...) #2: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2011-07-17 15:43:15) "Have a lot of fun" suits just fine, and now that it has been in use for more than a decade, I would not want to see it changed either - it /is/ already a hallmark (German: Erkennungsmerkmal) users recognize. #3: Genix Info (genixinfo) (2011-07-20 06:11:47) My suggestion is to make it more global in the slogan on DistroWatch, the Forum and the Internet. In the Forum: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/other-forums/forums-feedback/forums-comme... (http://forums.opensuse.org/english/other-forums/forums-feedback/forums-comme...) OpenSUSE Linux Project History: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_distributions#History (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_distributions#History) I consider the beginning of the project openSUSE Linux was in version 10.3 in 2007, where he used the name of the openSUSE Linux from the beginning of its development until the final version: http://news.opensuse.org/2007/10/04/announcing-opensuse-103-gm/ (http://news.opensuse.org/2007/10/04/announcing-opensuse-103-gm/) #4: Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) (2011-07-20 08:08:48) As AJ wrote, I also think this is not a distribution issue, but a marketing issue. Therefore, I think -marketing list might be the better place for discussing this issue, if you want to continue the discussion. And in general, just saying 'XX should be YY' isn't a compelling proposal. A simple patch would always be more convincing than hundreds of 'anyone except me should do this' opinions. That's the FLOSS way. ;-) Why don't you create a logo, poster, DVD cover or something which includes your recommended slogan and show it to openSUSE people first? If people like it, it can be adopted. #5: Genix Info (genixinfo) (2011-07-20 17:34:21) But it's not a matter of marketing, but a question of distribution, openSUSE Linux project, has to be more global in the slogan on DistroWatch, the Internet and the World, so it should first clarify its history, to know their real origin, which is what I think: My suggestion is to make it more global in the slogan on DistroWatch, the Forum and the Internet. In the Forum: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/other-forums/forums-feedback/forums-comme... (http://forums.opensuse.org/english/other-forums/forums-feedback/forums-comme...) OpenSUSE Linux Project History: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_distributions#History (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_distributions#History) I consider the beginning of the project openSUSE Linux was in version 10.3 in 2007, where he used the name of the openSUSE Linux from the beginning of its development until the final version: http://news.opensuse.org/2007/10/04/announcing-opensuse-103-gm/ (http://news.opensuse.org/2007/10/04/announcing-opensuse-103-gm/) I do not want to deny the origin of the old SuSE Linux, the old SuSE Linux was acquired by Novell, and developed with the support of the community, and later, SuSE Linux was open to the world through the project openSUSE Linux, with this, we have currently two distributions founded and maintained by Novell: 1 - openSUSE Linux - open-source project, founded and maintained by Novell with the support of the community. 2 - SUSE Linux Enterprise - business, based on Linux openSUSE, founded and maintained by Novell. #6: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2011-07-20 18:10:45) (reply to #5) Distrowatch Entry - Origin means "where it came from" there's nothing in "Promoting the use of Linux everywhere ... The openSUSE project has three main goals: make openSUSE the easiest Linux for anyone to obtain and the most widely used Linux distribution; leverage open source collaboration to make openSUSE the world's most usable Linux distribution and desktop environment for new and experienced Linux users" which does not suggest International reach. What I actually thinks needs changing on Distrowatch is "sponsered by Novell" due to corporate structural changes. #7: Genix Info (genixinfo) (2011-07-20 20:42:46) I said that Linux openSUSE project was founded and maintained by Novell with the support of the community and was opened to the world by Novell, making openSUSE Linux International, since Novell has presence in several places in the world. OpenSUSE Linux needs to be more global, as I said before. About the release dates of Linux distributions: GNU/Linux Distribution Timeline (http://futurist.se/gldt/) #8: Satoru Matsumoto (heliosreds) (2011-07-21 06:11:06) Genix, I can't see what you are concerned about actually. The reason why Debian's origin is described as 'global' on DistroWatch is, I suppose, that Debian was born on the Internet and cannot be related to a specific country or region. On the other hand, Ubuntu's origin is described as 'Isle of Man' on DistroWatch, but I think no one is misunderstanding that Ubuntu is the distribution only for people who live in Isle of Man. And which place is considered to be the origin of openSUSE distribution depends on what people think the root of openSUSE is. Suppose if you were born in Canada and your family now lives in Mexico while your father was born in USA, grandfather was born in England and great- grandfather was born in Ireland for example. Where do you think the origin of your family? Most of the people think the root of openSUSE is S.u.S.E. Linux released by S.u.S.E. GmbH (a company in Germany) in the mid-1990s. That's why most people think the origin of openSUSE is Germany. If DistroWatch says the origin of openSUSE is China, we can point out that's not correct, but in this case, we can't. And what do you mean by 'global' here actually? openSUSE (former S.u.S.E.) Linux has been supporting multiple languages since version 6.0 (refer to the table on DistroWatch). And the main language for discussing and developing openSUSE is English - de facto standard language for international communication. That's why not only German speaking people but also many people speaking other languages is using and contributing openSUSE. What makes you think that openSUSE is not global enough? + #9: Genix Info (genixinfo) (2011-08-01 20:28:03) + I understand. The openSUSE project is Linux International, he is Global + (worldwide), the more my suggestion is to make it more global + (worldwide) in the World, explaining its history and uses origin, + because sometimes I feel that it is limited only to the United States + America and Germany, I suggest breaking this limit, and further expand + the openSUSE Linux to the world. What I suggest: Clarify their origin + and history: Project start openSUSE Linux, open source, Novell-based + community support - Version: 3.10 Date: October 4, 2007 + (http://news.opensuse.org/2007/10/04/announcing-opensuse-103-gm/) . + Beginning SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop + (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_Enterprise_Desktop) and Server + (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_Enterprise_Server) , a + business based on openSUSE Linux - Version: 11 Date: March 24, 2009. + openSUSE Linux: The official site of the project: OpenSUSE Linux + project is a global (worldwide) founded and launched on 4 October 2007 + with Version 10.3 + (http://news.opensuse.org/2007/10/04/announcing-opensuse-103-gm/) by + Novell with the support of the community. Wikipedia + (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSUSE) : Source: Global (worldwide) + Founding Date and Commencement: 4th October 2007 with Version 10.3 + (http://news.opensuse.org/2007/10/04/announcing-opensuse-103-gm/) DistroWatch + (http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=suse) : Source: Global + (worldwide) Founding Date and Commencement: 4th October 2007 with + Version 10.3 + (http://news.opensuse.org/2007/10/04/announcing-opensuse-103-gm/) Worldwide: + Source: Global (worldwide) Founding Date and Commencement: 4th October + 2007 with Version 10.3 + (http://news.opensuse.org/2007/10/04/announcing-opensuse-103-gm/) Do + you accept my suggestions to make the most openSUSE Linux Global + (worldwide) in the World? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/312629