Feature changed by: Max Heldt (Max_Heldt) Feature #308284, revision 17 Title: Ship openSUSE 11.2 openSUSE-11.2: New Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Stephan Kulow (coolo) Description: I consider Build 347 good enough to be GM. We should ship it! Of course there are plenty of bugs left unfixed, but IMO no-one that will cause major head ache to (most of) our users. Please consider! Discussion: #1: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-11-03 14:07:00) If we do not ship now, we have to slip at least 2 weeks - otherwise the mirrors will not handle the load. #2: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) (2009-11-03 14:59:19) Just my opinion: why not we take the two weeks, try and fix the most important bugs among the ones already reported (with RC2) and ship it then? I know we can keep thinking like this for ever and then a release will never happen, but what I mean is if for some reason the release date is already slipping, we might as well make use of this time and fix some important bugs (reported on the Most Annoying Bugs in the wiki with RC2), rather than rush the release. #3: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-11-03 15:18:08) (reply to #2) the release is not rushed. And with every fix included the chance to break something is there. So the question is: are we fine _now_ or do we want to release with another set of annoying bugs. #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-11-03 15:19:01) (reply to #2) And: there are no two weeks. We need quite a while to feed the mirrors before we can go public. Not two full weeks, but at least 5 days. #5: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) (2009-11-03 15:26:35) To elaborate a little: the (installed) distribution itself is good at this point. There are problems with the installation media (for example: grub not recognising some other installed os - bug 548993, localisation files for myspell and openoffice in different languages being pulled from the internet on first run of yast - bug 551003, gdm related bug 551116, etc.). There is also lack of very important features in the software management module of yast-gtk (bug 551662) compared to yast-qt-pkg (features that were implemented for the qt interface late into the cycle), and at least one completed feature (showing orphaned packages - feature 551771) not at all working. I think it will be worth trying to fix the important bugs (like these) prior to release; more important than releasing quickly is to release as perfect an OS as possible imho. #6: Hendrik Vogelsang (hennevogel) (2009-11-03 15:29:14) The question about the bugs that are in the distro at this point is: What fixes have we ready or nearly ready by today and do they warrant the slipping. I wouldnt worry about the ones not fixed yet. They probably won't be in 5 days because developers expect the distribution to move on. #7: Sergio Gabriel (dahool) (2009-11-03 15:32:30) IHMO at least #548132 should be fixed, as it is on the DVD and it's not possible to fix it with an update. We did have some problems with the repair system on others releases (I'm not sure if it was 10.3 or 11.0) The other critical bugs can be fixed later (though I hope not to wait to 11.3 to have them fixed ;-) ) #8: Felix Miata (mrmazda) (2009-11-03 15:59:09) 8 months old http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483136 should have been fixed months ago, not in some future release. /dev/disk/by- id, /dev/disk/by-path & /dev/disk/by-uuid are all human unfriendly. /dev/disk/by-label is the only human friendly option, and shouldn't be released with such a glaring bug. The only reason I didn't push for a fix via mailing lists or bugzilla sooner is that 11.2 will already be skip-this-release-version-in-production-systems anyway due to KDE4 still too pathetic as a replacement for KDE3. #9: Gabriel Fróes Franco (isorehalav) (2009-11-03 16:15:47) I've been using 11.2 RC2 with KDE4 on my production environment since release without any major issues. All the basic functionalitties for a desktop user are working as expected (i.e. e-mail, browser, office, photo management, multimedia). I would say it is good for a GM baed on my experience with it so far. #10: andrea florio (anubisg1) (2009-11-03 16:52:11) that looks fine for me... there are just a couple of issues should be fix 1st) yast2 rdp requires xrdp but no xrdp package is available 2nd) grub not able to detect already installed linux installations the first can be fixed adding packages to OSS or removing yast2-rdp, the second one should be fixed before release a DVD #11: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-11-03 17:27:22) I vote for releasing now. There are some issues left, but those are mostly non critical (like the disk name) or critical only to a minor user base(which always will be the case in a leading distro) We are running on 2 laptops, 2 mini laptops and 3 stationar/servers. All are performing well. They all have different HW, AMD, Intel and VIA processors and chipsets. They are actually performing better with this release than with 11.1 The mini laptops run noticeably better and KDE4 is a dream. + #12: Max Heldt (max_heldt) (2009-11-03 17:42:29) + I have web camera Creative Vista IM VF0420. Work opensuse 11.2 with my + web camera? And I have notebook HP Compaq 6715b with wi-fi Broadcom + Corporation BCM4312. Work opensuse 11.2 with this Wi-Fi adater and + notebook? + + Thanks -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308284