[opensuse-factory] Amarok
Why is it every time I upgrade amarok becomes more of a pain in the tail. This is as root user calling amarok. This is a fresh load of 11.4 RC1 Yes I have gotten as much as possible from Packman but several dependencies are missing and then this DBUS headache. Oh Yea thanks for fixing the gpm mouse As root m1l: # amarok unnamed app(12140): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." unnamed app(12139): KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly. -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb@comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb@arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday February 16 2011 01:45:46 Donn Washburn wrote:
Why is it every time I upgrade amarok becomes more of a pain in the tail. This is as root user calling amarok.
WTF would you do something that stupid anyways? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 03:23 +0100, Stephan Kleine wrote:
On Wednesday February 16 2011 01:45:46 Donn Washburn wrote:
Why is it every time I upgrade amarok becomes more of a pain in the tail. This is as root user calling amarok.
WTF would you do something that stupid anyways?
It's not stupid to always want to be lord and master of your universe. I always run as root, have since forever (have paid for that choice too;). If you couldn't possibly care less about security, it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do. -Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 16/02/11 04:09, Mike Galbraith wrote:
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 03:23 +0100, Stephan Kleine wrote:
On Wednesday February 16 2011 01:45:46 Donn Washburn wrote:
Why is it every time I upgrade amarok becomes more of a pain in the tail. This is as root user calling amarok.
WTF would you do something that stupid anyways?
It's not stupid to always want to be lord and master of your universe. I always run as root, have since forever (have paid for that choice too;). If you couldn't possibly care less about security, it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
-Mike
And no one is going to fire you for doing so. There are many guys in positions that would get them fired if found to be doing so and a serious suspicious problem arose that may have nothing at all to do with running as root. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 15:28 +0000, Sid Boyce wrote:
On 16/02/11 04:09, Mike Galbraith wrote:
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 03:23 +0100, Stephan Kleine wrote:
On Wednesday February 16 2011 01:45:46 Donn Washburn wrote:
Why is it every time I upgrade amarok becomes more of a pain in the tail. This is as root user calling amarok.
WTF would you do something that stupid anyways?
It's not stupid to always want to be lord and master of your universe. I always run as root, have since forever (have paid for that choice too;). If you couldn't possibly care less about security, it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
-Mike
And no one is going to fire you for doing so. There are many guys in positions that would get them fired if found to be doing so and a serious suspicious problem arose that may have nothing at all to do with running as root. Regards
Well sure, there are lots of places where it matters not one whit whether you fire ToyOfChoice up as root or unprivileged too, you are just as fired either way. My only moderate objection was use of the word stupid. You can run things as root without being called stupid. -Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:09:10 +0100 Mike Galbraith <mgalbraith@suse.de> wrote:
It's not stupid to always want to be lord and master of your universe. I always run as root, have since forever (have paid for that choice too;).
But then you have to log in as root, not just start random applications as root.
If you couldn't possibly care less about security, it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
I couldn't disagree more. Kids, don't follow advice from strangers, at least not without thinking twice! -- Stefan Seyfried "Dispatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body!" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:06:41 +0530, Stefan Seyfried <stefan.seyfried@googlemail.com> wrote:
If you couldn't possibly care less about security, it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do. I couldn't disagree more.
me too. the quote above should say: "if you couldn't possibly care less about security or messing up your system beyond repair..." -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 09:36 +0100, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:09:10 +0100 Mike Galbraith <mgalbraith@suse.de> wrote:
It's not stupid to always want to be lord and master of your universe. I always run as root, have since forever (have paid for that choice too;).
But then you have to log in as root, not just start random applications as root.
If you couldn't possibly care less about security, it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
I couldn't disagree more.
Life would be boring without a bit of disagreement.
Kids, don't follow advice from strangers, at least not without thinking twice!
Hohum. Have a nice day. -Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 16/02/11 00:45, Donn Washburn wrote:
Why is it every time I upgrade amarok becomes more of a pain in the tail. This is as root user calling amarok. This is a fresh load of 11.4 RC1 Yes I have gotten as much as possible from Packman but several dependencies are missing and then this DBUS headache.
Oh Yea thanks for fixing the gpm mouse
As root m1l: # amarok unnamed app(12140): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
unnamed app(12139): KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly.
Does it run as user? It should. There are many apps you can't run as user. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 02/16/2011 01:45 AM, Donn Washburn wrote:
Why is it every time I upgrade amarok becomes more of a pain in the tail. This is as root user calling amarok. This is a fresh load of 11.4 RC1 Yes I have gotten as much as possible from Packman but several dependencies are missing and then this DBUS headache.
Oh Yea thanks for fixing the gpm mouse
As root m1l: # amarok unnamed app(12140): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
unnamed app(12139): KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly.
Did you test with (from a console) amarok --nofork --debug ? -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Onsdag den 16. februar 2011 01:45:46 skrev Donn Washburn:
Why is it every time I upgrade amarok becomes more of a pain in the tail. This is as root user calling amarok. This is a fresh load of 11.4 RC1 Yes I have gotten as much as possible from Packman but several dependencies are missing and then this DBUS headache.
I wonder if that might be related to: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514056 Is your root user using the oxygen Qt widget style? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 02/16/2011 02:45 AM, Donn Washburn wrote:
Why is it every time I upgrade amarok becomes more of a pain in the tail. This is as root user calling amarok. This is a fresh load of 11.4 RC1 Yes I have gotten as much as possible from Packman but several dependencies are missing and then this DBUS headache.
Oh Yea thanks for fixing the gpm mouse
As root m1l: # amarok unnamed app(12140): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
unnamed app(12139): KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly.
phonon-4.4.4 + backends is supposed to have automatic codec download and the use of packman packages might cause amarok problems. The use of amarok as root might even break your system. Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 16 February 2011 01:45:46 Donn Washburn wrote:
Why is it every time I upgrade amarok becomes more of a pain in the tail. This is as root user calling amarok. This is a fresh load of 11.4 RC1 Yes I have gotten as much as possible from Packman but several dependencies are missing and then this DBUS headache.
Oh Yea thanks for fixing the gpm mouse
As root m1l: # amarok unnamed app(12140): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
unnamed app(12139): KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly.
Disclaimer: running amarok as a root is a damn fool thing to do. It can access multiple online services, and the long-term attitude from some of its developers towards defects is such that I barely trust it to run as user. The error message says there is no session bus running, so I guess you logged in as an unprivileged user then su'd to root. Most KDE apps expect there to be a bus. You can launch amarok as root and start a new session bus for it using 'kdesu dbus-launch amarok. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 02/16/2011 02:54 PM, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Wednesday 16 February 2011 01:45:46 Donn Washburn wrote:
Why is it every time I upgrade amarok becomes more of a pain in the tail. This is as root user calling amarok. This is a fresh load of 11.4 RC1 Yes I have gotten as much as possible from Packman but several dependencies are missing and then this DBUS headache.
Oh Yea thanks for fixing the gpm mouse
As root m1l: # amarok unnamed app(12140): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
unnamed app(12139): KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly.
Disclaimer: running amarok as a root is a damn fool thing to do. It can access multiple online services, and the long-term attitude from some of its developers towards defects is such that I barely trust it to run as user.
The error message says there is no session bus running, so I guess you logged in as an unprivileged user then su'd to root. Most KDE apps expect there to be a bus. You can launch amarok as root and start a new session bus for it using 'kdesu dbus-launch amarok.
Will
-- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex
Have you seen this yet? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246404 Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 16 February 2011 17:15:00 Dave Plater wrote:
Have you seen this yet? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246404
No, but I basically agree with David. I mentioned the dbus-launch technique because the skill level on this list should include some knowledge of how to break the rules. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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