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> From: Knurpht-openSUSE <knurpht@opensuse.org>
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> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 20:53:22 +0200
> Subject: Re: So Leap is transitioning to a 16 variation?
> Op woensdag 29 maart 2023 20:36:26 CEST schreef Larry Len Rainey:
> > Btrfs is a loser for me too - ext4 forever - btrfs is nothing but trouble. I
> > will be leaving as well if btrfs is required. Looks like Mint MATE will be
> > my replacement.
> >
> > I wonder if Walmart will go btrfs - they like LVM. and ext4 and raw
> > filesystems.
> >
> >
> > On 3/29/23 13:18, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> >
> > On 2023-03-29 17:25, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
> >
> >
> > Leap 16.0 Putting high level requirements for Alpha. I think I could
> > have something usable by end of this week.
> > https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:16.0 So far everything shows that base
> > system will have traditional 12 months + overlap support.
> >
> >
> > [QUOTE]
> > Migration path from the previous releases
> >
> > Users will be officially able to upgrade to Leap 16 only from the
> > openSUSE Leap 15.5 transactional update server and from Leap Micro
> > 5.X. There are experimental tools that can be used to migrate a
> > non-transactional-update system, but we highly recommend doing a clean
> > installation instead. The migrated system would have to be btrfs
> > based.
> >
> > [/QUOTE]
> >
> > This is good news . . . will this migration path from 15.5 be
> > available sometime soon?  Or, the repos will have to be edited to "16"
> > to make it to Alpha stage materials??
> >
> >
> > I don't see the good news anywhere.
> >
> > Only 15.5 transactional update server and Leap Micro 5.X can upgrade, not
> > the rest.
> >
> > And it has to be btrfs.
> >
> > Thus none of my systems can upgrade. What then, Ubuntu, Debian, what?
> To be clear:
> - There is going to be a Leap 16
> - Leap 16 is not going to be just another Leap
> - It is going to be ALP based
> - Anyone following news.o.o can read about that
> So please stop basing your assumptions on your guesses.
> Meetings have been going on for ~1 year, everything was done in public.
>
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et al:

Last I saw here was that "Leap 15.5 is the last iteration of Leap to
be produced" . . . so in that sense, if there is to be a 16 distro
that is "good news."

So, not following the details on the "upgrading from 15.5" . . . there
might be a "click to upgrade" option, OR it would have to be via
"editing the repos"???

I also do not use btrfs formatting . . . ext4 for everybody on my
multi-booter . . . that is no longer going to be an option???

@Larry . . . Mint MATE is a good choice in Mint, the only issue I had
with Mint is, that most ubuntu flavors only let themselves be included
in the grub boot menu . . . so if there is a multi-boot situation that
gets "complicated" . . . .