[opensuse-factory] Which repo to use for updater testing in 11.2A.0?
Hi, replacing: the'.1' with '.2', does not seem to work;) http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/ -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.27.7-8-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 0 (x86_64) KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) "release 4.6" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Oddball schreef:
Hi,
replacing: the'.1' with '.2', does not seem to work;) http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/
Ahem...;) The updater keeps asking for a repo..It explains that it cann't check for updates if it does not know where.. -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.27.7-8-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 0 (x86_64) KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) "release 4.6" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch 03 Dezember 2008 schrieb Oddball:
Oddball schreef:
Hi,
replacing: the'.1' with '.2', does not seem to work;) http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/
Ahem...;) The updater keeps asking for a repo..It explains that it cann't check for updates if it does not know where..
Just take the 11.1 for the moment. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Stephan Kulow schreef:
Am Mittwoch 03 Dezember 2008 schrieb Oddball:
Oddball schreef:
Hi,
replacing: the'.1' with '.2', does not seem to work;) http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/
Ahem...;) The updater keeps asking for a repo..It explains that it cann't check for updates if it does not know where..
Just take the 11.1 for the moment.
Greetings, Stephan
I would offcourse do that, but the updater does not accept that repo, that is my reason for asking;) -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.27.7-8-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 0 (x86_64) KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) "release 4.6" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Oddball schreef:
Stephan Kulow schreef:
Am Mittwoch 03 Dezember 2008 schrieb Oddball:
Oddball schreef:
Hi,
replacing: the'.1' with '.2', does not seem to work;) http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/
Ahem...;) The updater keeps asking for a repo..It explains that it cann't check for updates if it does not know where..
Just take the 11.1 for the moment.
Greetings, Stephan
I would offcourse do that, but the updater does not accept that repo, that is my reason for asking;)
these messages keep coming also: (see screenshots) -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.27.7-8-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 0 (x86_64) KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) "release 4.6"
Oddball schreef:
Oddball schreef:
Stephan Kulow schreef:
Am Mittwoch 03 Dezember 2008 schrieb Oddball:
Oddball schreef:
Hi,
replacing: the'.1' with '.2', does not seem to work;) http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/
Ahem...;) The updater keeps asking for a repo..It explains that it cann't check for updates if it does not know where..
Just take the 11.1 for the moment.
Greetings, Stephan
I would offcourse do that, but the updater does not accept that repo, that is my reason for asking;)
these messages keep coming also: (see screenshots)
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After i hit install, and insert my root-pw, this message allways appears... -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.27.7-8-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 0 (x86_64) KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) "release 4.6"
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 12:55:28 am Oddball wrote: ...
After i hit install, and insert my root-pw, this message allways appears...
That is test of broken update. This is what Stephan answered to my email: **************************************************************** Am Mittwoch 03 Dezember 2008 schrieb Rajko M.:
Strace update (broken). ....................... After giving password, updater tells that I can't do update, and advice to use YOU. Used YOU and it complains that it can't satisfy dependencies. I selected not to update.
Later, updater has the same update, but this time it updates without asking password.
BTW: What kind of information this test should provide?
How the tools handle broken updates - basically they should do what you describe :) In the past we had trouble with broken updates as the updater just installed them even with broken dependencies. Greetings, Stephan **************************************************************** -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. schreef:
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 12:55:28 am Oddball wrote: ...
After i hit install, and insert my root-pw, this message allways appears...
That is test of broken update. This is what Stephan answered to my email:
**************************************************************** Am Mittwoch 03 Dezember 2008 schrieb Rajko M.:
Strace update (broken). ....................... After giving password, updater tells that I can't do update, and advice to use YOU. Used YOU and it complains that it can't satisfy dependencies. I selected not to update.
Later, updater has the same update, but this time it updates without asking password.
BTW: What kind of information this test should provide?
How the tools handle broken updates - basically they should do what you describe :)
In the past we had trouble with broken updates as the updater just installed them even with broken dependencies.
Greetings, Stephan ****************************************************************
That might be, but what about not seeing or accepting a repo? And messages that there are updates without being able to check? But NP, if they can be ignored, let it be.. -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.27.7-8-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Alpha 0 (x86_64) KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) "release 4.6" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. wrote:
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 12:55:28 am Oddball wrote: ...
After i hit install, and insert my root-pw, this message allways appears...
That is test of broken update. This is what Stephan answered to my email:
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How the tools handle broken updates - basically they should do what you describe :)
In the past we had trouble with broken updates as the updater just installed them even with broken dependencies.
This is not encouraging especially along with "[opensuse-factory] Problem with kupdateapplet in RC1" Will there be a way to completely disable Packagekit and have zypper work as it does in 11.0? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. | openSoftware und SystemEntwicklung Rankin Law Firm, PLLC | Countdown for openSuSE 11.1 www.rankinlawfirm.com | http://counter.opensuse.org/11.1/small -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 06 December 2008 11:22:10 am David C. Rankin wrote:
This is not encouraging especially along with "[opensuse-factory] Problem with kupdateapplet in RC1" Will there be a way to completely disable Packagekit and have zypper work as it does in 11.0?
I hope so David. I would like to see package kit tested in 11.2 Alpha etc, or at least accompanied with zypper as an option, but I'm not Colo. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 21:03 -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
On Saturday 06 December 2008 11:22:10 am David C. Rankin wrote:
This is not encouraging especially along with "[opensuse-factory] Problem with kupdateapplet in RC1" Will there be a way to completely disable Packagekit and have zypper work as it does in 11.0?
I hope so David. I would like to see package kit tested in 11.2 Alpha etc, or at least accompanied with zypper as an option, but I'm not Colo.
Do you guys do anything but complain about stuff you don't understand? I'm honestly a bit sick and tired reading your emails, especially when you make stuff up. How about asking *how* and *if* you can do it differently if there is something you don't like? Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 07 December 2008 04:34:17 am Magnus Boman wrote:
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 21:03 -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
On Saturday 06 December 2008 11:22:10 am David C. Rankin wrote:
This is not encouraging especially along with "[opensuse-factory] Problem with kupdateapplet in RC1" Will there be a way to completely disable Packagekit and have zypper work as it does in 11.0?
I hope so David. I would like to see package kit tested in 11.2 Alpha etc, or at least accompanied with zypper as an option, but I'm not Colo.
Do you guys do anything but complain about stuff you don't understand?
Sincerely, we don't understand details, so we estimate future performance, taking historic activity in consideration. It is valid for any subject, in this case updater as a part of package management. It had troubles in the past and right now it doesn't work good, so what do you expect from us, not to tell that we have concerns. Now after Markus mentioned bug report, and Odball pointed to his report, is different, but in time I wrote post, I had in mind only current and past that I had in mind.
I'm honestly a bit sick and tired reading your emails, especially when you make stuff up.
Making mistake and making stuff up are two pairs of shoes. First happens to everyone that shows some activity, second is intentional malice. I wouldn't be with SUSE and openSUSE so long if I would disrespect their developer and user comunities, so scratch malice as driving force for my comment. In this case, even mistake is not in question, as what I don't have in mind when I make conclusion, I can't take into account. So, you are wrong in above statement claiming that someone made up something.
How about asking *how* and *if* you can do it differently if there is something you don't like?
If I would be developer "make it yourself" would be valid comment, but I'm on user side of opensource equation. I comment usage shortcommingas, not software models. I don't see source code, I see names in GUI. So, new name PackageKit + missing old names zypper, or libzypp, makes PackageKit prime suspect for erratic behavior. When Markus answered on another post, I understood that PolicyKit is culprit, and that cleared confusion, which I can't tell for your post. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 08 December 2008 04:39:51 Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 07 December 2008 04:34:17 am Magnus Boman wrote:
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 21:03 -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
On Saturday 06 December 2008 11:22:10 am David C. Rankin wrote:
This is not encouraging especially along with "[opensuse-factory] Problem with kupdateapplet in RC1" Will there be a way to completely disable Packagekit and have zypper work as it does in 11.0?
I hope so David. I would like to see package kit tested in 11.2 Alpha etc, or at least accompanied with zypper as an option, but I'm not Colo.
Do you guys do anything but complain about stuff you don't understand?
Sincerely, we don't understand details, so we estimate future performance, taking historic activity in consideration. It is valid for any subject, in this case updater as a part of package management. It had troubles in the past and right now it doesn't work good, so what do you expect from us, not to tell that we have concerns.
Now after Markus mentioned bug report, and Odball pointed to his report, is different, but in time I wrote post, I had in mind only current and past that I had in mind.
I'm honestly a bit sick and tired reading your emails, especially when you make stuff up.
Making mistake and making stuff up are two pairs of shoes. First happens to everyone that shows some activity, second is intentional malice.
I wouldn't be with SUSE and openSUSE so long if I would disrespect their developer and user comunities, so scratch malice as driving force for my comment. In this case, even mistake is not in question, as what I don't have in mind when I make conclusion, I can't take into account.
So, you are wrong in above statement claiming that someone made up something.
How about asking *how* and *if* you can do it differently if there is something you don't like?
If I would be developer "make it yourself" would be valid comment, but I'm on user side of opensource equation.
I comment usage shortcommingas, not software models. I don't see source code, I see names in GUI. So, new name PackageKit + missing old names zypper, or libzypp, makes PackageKit prime suspect for erratic behavior.
The fact is that for GNOME, we used PackageKit already for 11.0. The zypper backend was used in KDE only, because this applet is openSUSE-specific. Right after release of 11.0, we switched the default backend for kupdateapplet to PackageKit. But the whole point is that PackageKit seems to be future of the trivial package management on Linux (it's goal clearly states it does not want to become another Synaptic/YaST packagemanager/....). Thus, we will also actively look into KPackageKit to be a replacement for kupdateapplet. Stano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 07 December 2008, Magnus Boman wrote:
Do you guys do anything but complain about stuff you don't understand? I'm honestly a bit sick and tired reading your emails, especially when you make stuff up. How about asking *how* and *if* you can do it differently if there is something you don't like?
Cheers, Magnus
And hows about we get Opensuse back to a decent workable distro for once instead of all this stuff that keeps causing problems . ie KDE4 and friends not liked by many loathed by a lot but still the C**P keeps getting piled high , There are issues that should NOT be this far down the path to release and if it means pushing the release date FORWARD a few months so be it needs must Pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag 09 Dezember 2008 schrieb peter nikolic:
On Sunday 07 December 2008, Magnus Boman wrote:
Do you guys do anything but complain about stuff you don't understand? I'm honestly a bit sick and tired reading your emails, especially when you make stuff up. How about asking *how* and *if* you can do it differently if there is something you don't like?
Cheers, Magnus
And hows about we get Opensuse back to a decent workable distro for once instead of all this stuff that keeps causing problems .
ie KDE4 and friends not liked by many loathed by a lot but still the C**P keeps getting piled high , There are issues that should NOT be this far down the path to release and if it means pushing the release date FORWARD a few months so be it needs must
Are we still talking about 11.2 Alpha0? Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 12/2/08, Oddball <monkey9@iae.nl> wrote:
Hi,
replacing: the'.1' with '.2', does not seem to work;) http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/
i upgraded my 11.1 RC1 to 11.2 alpha 0 not intentionally, by adding http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/ repo and executing zypper dup -- Mindaugas Vaiciulis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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