[opensuse-factory] delta ISO？
Hi, all, One simple question: do we still have delta ISO provided? Or it's been abandoned a long time ago before I join openSUSE? I can't find it at d.o.o, and the latest delta ISO news on line was for 11.1. Or I make my question more simple, I have a M3 ISO, I want to update it to beta1, what can I do? We still have wiki page telling delta ISO is good for testing purpose. If we drop that a long time ago, it's misunderstanding and will confuse users. Greetings, Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 14.06.2012 11:50, Marguerite Su wrote:
Hi, all,
One simple question: do we still have delta ISO provided?
Or it's been abandoned a long time ago before I join openSUSE?
I can't find it at d.o.o, and the latest delta ISO news on line was for 11.1.
No, we provided delta isos for earlier 12.2 milestones too. But they are very fragile (they were built for a compression that never changed [bzip2] and cause problems whenever xz compression changes just in bits). And they take a long time to generate that I more often than not spare myself when releasing milestones - and so far you're the first to ask for them. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de> wrote:
On 14.06.2012 11:50, Marguerite Su wrote:
Hi, all,
One simple question: do we still have delta ISO provided?
Or it's been abandoned a long time ago before I join openSUSE?
I can't find it at d.o.o, and the latest delta ISO news on line was for 11.1.
No, we provided delta isos for earlier 12.2 milestones too. But they are very fragile (they were built for a compression that never changed [bzip2] and cause problems whenever xz compression changes just in bits).
And they take a long time to generate that I more often than not spare myself when releasing milestones - and so far you're the first to ask for them.
Maybe they didn't view wiki first? I translated the download help page, or I don't know there's such way either. So I can wait when you get your hands free. (I saw many thing happened these days)
Greetings, Stephan
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On 14/06/12 20:00, Stephan Kulow wrote:
On 14.06.2012 11:50, Marguerite Su wrote:
Hi, all,
One simple question: do we still have delta ISO provided?
Or it's been abandoned a long time ago before I join openSUSE?
I can't find it at d.o.o, and the latest delta ISO news on line was for 11.1.
No, we provided delta isos for earlier 12.2 milestones too. But they are very fragile (they were built for a compression that never changed [bzip2] and cause problems whenever xz compression changes just in bits).
And they take a long time to generate that I more often than not spare myself when releasing milestones - and so far you're the first to ask for them.
No, I asked about deltas months ago.
Greetings, Stephan
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Marguerite Su wrote:
Hi, all,
One simple question: do we still have delta ISO provided?
AFAICT, we don't. I remember downloading deltas and applying them, but it's quite a while ago.
Or I make my question more simple,
I have a M3 ISO, I want to update it to beta1, what can I do?
Download the next one. :-)
We still have wiki page telling delta ISO is good for testing purpose.
If we drop that a long time ago, it's misunderstanding and will confuse users.
Yes, that wiki page needs updating. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (18.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 14.06.2012 14:28, Per Jessen wrote:
Marguerite Su wrote:
Hi, all,
One simple question: do we still have delta ISO provided?
AFAICT, we don't. I remember downloading deltas and applying them, but it's quite a while ago.
Well, 12.2-Milestone3 came with this: openSUSE-Addon-Lang-Build0258_Build0317-i586.delta.iso openSUSE-Addon-Lang-Build0258_Build0317-x86_64.delta.iso openSUSE-Addon-NonOss-BiArch-Build0258_Build0317-BiArch.delta.iso openSUSE-Addon-NonOss-BiArch-Build0258_Build0317-i586-x86_64.delta.iso openSUSE-DVD-Build0258_Build0315-x86_64.delta.iso openSUSE-DVD-Build0258_Build0317-i586.delta.iso
Or I make my question more simple,
I have a M3 ISO, I want to update it to beta1, what can I do?
Download the next one. :-)
We still have wiki page telling delta ISO is good for testing purpose.
If we drop that a long time ago, it's misunderstanding and will confuse users.
Yes, that wiki page needs updating.
I don't know - if you guys want it, we can still generate it. They are small, so mirroring them is no problem. I only had the feeling that the it's only interesting for 1 or 2 guys and it involves considerable effort to generate them. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Stephan Kulow wrote:
On 14.06.2012 14:28, Per Jessen wrote:
Marguerite Su wrote:
Hi, all,
One simple question: do we still have delta ISO provided?
AFAICT, we don't. I remember downloading deltas and applying them, but it's quite a while ago.
Well, 12.2-Milestone3 came with this:
openSUSE-Addon-Lang-Build0258_Build0317-i586.delta.iso openSUSE-Addon-Lang-Build0258_Build0317-x86_64.delta.iso openSUSE-Addon-NonOss-BiArch-Build0258_Build0317-BiArch.delta.iso openSUSE-Addon-NonOss-BiArch-Build0258_Build0317-i586-x86_64.delta.iso openSUSE-DVD-Build0258_Build0315-x86_64.delta.iso openSUSE-DVD-Build0258_Build0317-i586.delta.iso
Ooops, sorry. I obviously have not been bothering with those. Where are they kept? Are they on download.opensuse.org? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (19.3°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 14.06.2012 15:22, Per Jessen wrote:
Stephan Kulow wrote:
On 14.06.2012 14:28, Per Jessen wrote:
Marguerite Su wrote:
Hi, all,
One simple question: do we still have delta ISO provided?
AFAICT, we don't. I remember downloading deltas and applying them, but it's quite a while ago.
Well, 12.2-Milestone3 came with this:
openSUSE-Addon-Lang-Build0258_Build0317-i586.delta.iso openSUSE-Addon-Lang-Build0258_Build0317-x86_64.delta.iso openSUSE-Addon-NonOss-BiArch-Build0258_Build0317-BiArch.delta.iso openSUSE-Addon-NonOss-BiArch-Build0258_Build0317-i586-x86_64.delta.iso openSUSE-DVD-Build0258_Build0315-x86_64.delta.iso openSUSE-DVD-Build0258_Build0317-i586.delta.iso
Ooops, sorry. I obviously have not been bothering with those. Where are they kept? Are they on download.opensuse.org?
Yes, just as the beta deltas I just uploaded: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.2-Beta1/delta/ Greeings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.de> wrote:
On 14.06.2012 14:28, Per Jessen wrote:
Marguerite Su wrote:
Hi, all,
One simple question: do we still have delta ISO provided?
AFAICT, we don't. I remember downloading deltas and applying them, but it's quite a while ago.
Well, 12.2-Milestone3 came with this:
openSUSE-Addon-Lang-Build0258_Build0317-i586.delta.iso openSUSE-Addon-Lang-Build0258_Build0317-x86_64.delta.iso openSUSE-Addon-NonOss-BiArch-Build0258_Build0317-BiArch.delta.iso openSUSE-Addon-NonOss-BiArch-Build0258_Build0317-i586-x86_64.delta.iso openSUSE-DVD-Build0258_Build0315-x86_64.delta.iso openSUSE-DVD-Build0258_Build0317-i586.delta.iso
Or I make my question more simple,
I have a M3 ISO, I want to update it to beta1, what can I do?
Download the next one. :-)
We still have wiki page telling delta ISO is good for testing purpose.
If we drop that a long time ago, it's misunderstanding and will confuse users.
Yes, that wiki page needs updating.
I don't know - if you guys want it, we can still generate it. They are small, so mirroring them is no problem.
I only had the feeling that the it's only interesting for 1 or 2 guys and it involves considerable effort to generate them.
Greetings, Stephan
Well, I'm neutral on it. Normal users will not download so many ISOs, M1~M4, B1, B2, R1, R2, 12.2. (totally 39.6G) They maybe just download one beta and 12.2. it can be tolerated and acceptable, even under a slow internet connection. but if you download them all, well, when the previous is downloaded, the new one is released. you'll always have a Kget in your system tray. so this issue( whether to provide or not) depends on how many such testers do we have and who they are, I mean, are they core developers/active bug reporters who can debug and make good for our distribution or who just have a fast internet connection and have nothing else to do but downloading? If not, editing the wiki page might be an easy solution. Marguerite
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