[opensuse-factory] discussing problems with Yast Package Setup "patterns" or problem
Hi all ! There are several bugs opened about it: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204407 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204403 ======================================== openSUSE 10.2 has no simple graphics editors installed by default. simple graphics editor is a must for modern operating system, like Windows or openSUSE, so that normal Home Users can start working just away, and no look any further. bottom line: The best simple editor in the world is KDE "Kolourpaint" which blows both MS Paint and KPaint out of the water, so I recommend you to add it as a default choice for those people, who select KDE as a default Desktop Environment. what do you think? ======================================== Also, while the GIMP is installed it's help is missing. I think the two packages must be tied to one another. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hi all !
======================================== Also, while the GIMP is installed it's help is missing. I think the two packages must be tied to one another.
+1. But then the helpfiles have to be updated also if Gimp is cause they are both in the same package. Is there in the new system an option to check a package as the motherpakacge is selected without making it a requirement? Azerion --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Azerion <azerion@gmail.com> writes:
Hi all !
======================================== Also, while the GIMP is installed it's help is missing. I think the two packages must be tied to one another.
+1. But then the helpfiles have to be updated also if Gimp is cause they are both in the same package. Is there in the new system an option to check a package as the motherpakacge is selected without making it a requirement?
No :-( I just added gimp-help to the same pattern that gimp is in, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
"Alexey Eremenko" <al4321@gmail.com> writes:
Hi all !
There are several bugs opened about it: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204407 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204403
======================================== openSUSE 10.2 has no simple graphics editors installed by default.
simple graphics editor is a must for modern operating system, like Windows or openSUSE, so that normal Home Users can start working just away, and no look any further.
bottom line: The best simple editor in the world is KDE "Kolourpaint" which blows both MS Paint and KPaint out of the water, so I recommend you to add it as a default choice for those people, who select KDE as a default Desktop Environment.
what do you think?
The KDE/GNOME default missed all the multimedia stuff and I just fixed this, so this requirement is fullfilled. I don't know in which package kolourpaint is, so cannot tell whether it will be installed by default.
======================================== Also, while the GIMP is installed it's help is missing. I think the two packages must be tied to one another. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
gimp-help has been added besides gimp now. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
The KDE/GNOME default missed all the multimedia stuff and I just fixed this, so this requirement is fullfilled. I don't know in which package kolourpaint is, so cannot tell whether it will be installed by default.
First of all you can search it in Yast, by selecting : check in "description". Second: Kolourpaint is part of "kdegraphics3-imaging" package. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Alexey Eremenko" <al4321@gmail.com> writes:
The KDE/GNOME default missed all the multimedia stuff and I just fixed this, so this requirement is fullfilled. I don't know in which package kolourpaint is, so cannot tell whether it will be installed by default.
First of all you can search it in Yast, by selecting : check in "description".
Second: Kolourpaint is part of "kdegraphics3-imaging" package.
Should get installed now, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Friday 08 September 2006 17:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Second: Kolourpaint is part of "kdegraphics3-imaging" package. Should get installed now,
Veto. kdegraphics3-imaging contains also other stuff like the second and third then installed graphic viewer. May I suggest to rather move kolourpaint into the base kdegraphics3 package if it's wanted to get installed by default? Bye, Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Veto. kdegraphics3-imaging contains also other stuff like the second and third then installed graphic viewer. May I suggest to rather move kolourpaint into the base kdegraphics3 package if it's wanted to get installed by default?
I agree to either install kdegraphics3-imaging by default or to move Kolourpaint to kdegraphics3. Because both solutions resolves the problem... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Freitag, 8. September 2006 18:04 schrieb Stephan Binner:
On Friday 08 September 2006 17:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Second: Kolourpaint is part of "kdegraphics3-imaging" package.
Should get installed now,
Veto. kdegraphics3-imaging contains also other stuff like the second and third then installed graphic viewer. May I suggest to rather move kolourpaint into the base kdegraphics3 package if it's wanted to get installed by default?
I veto kolourpaint because I don't see basic painting as a very common job for today's users. Greetings, Stephan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
I veto kolourpaint because I don't see basic painting as a very common job for today's users.
You don't see, but the users see. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Em Domingo, 10 de Setembro de 2006 08:57, o Stephan Kulow escreveu:
Am Freitag, 8. September 2006 18:04 schrieb Stephan Binner:
On Friday 08 September 2006 17:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Second: Kolourpaint is part of "kdegraphics3-imaging" package.
Should get installed now,
Veto. kdegraphics3-imaging contains also other stuff like the second and third then installed graphic viewer. May I suggest to rather move kolourpaint into the base kdegraphics3 package if it's wanted to get installed by default?
I veto kolourpaint because I don't see basic painting as a very common job for today's users.
Greetings, Stephan
Not very common, but common enough I'd say. People like to put some pictures on a document they are making, but may want to crop the image they got from the internet a bit or do some other retouch, so a pixmap editor is really good to have. Cheers, Ricardo -- Living in LA is like not having a date on Saturday night. -- Candice Bergen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 11. September 2006 19:15 schrieb Ricardo Cruz:
Not very common, but common enough I'd say. People like to put some pictures on a document they are making, but may want to crop the image they got from the internet a bit or do some other retouch, so a pixmap editor is really good to have.
a pixmap editor != paint program. We have gimp and krita, which are filling the common tasks much better. Greetings, Stephan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Em Terça, 12 de Setembro de 2006 10:17, o Stephan Kulow escreveu:
Am Montag, 11. September 2006 19:15 schrieb Ricardo Cruz:
Not very common, but common enough I'd say. People like to put some pictures on a document they are making, but may want to crop the image they got from the internet a bit or do some other retouch, so a pixmap editor is really good to have.
a pixmap editor != paint program. We have gimp and krita, which are filling the common tasks much better.
Greetings, Stephan
Gimp is unnacceptable for a common user because some stuff, like primitives, aren't trivial to do. But I guess Krita is okay. Cheers, Ricardo -- Steinbach's Guideline for Systems Programming: Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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