[opensuse-factory] comparing png files for build-compare
For build-compare, we compare that the files are the same of the current build and the last build - and thus throw away the new build if they are the same. For this we can ignore all timestamps. I now have a problem with png files, they contain timestamps, e.g.: /usr/share/icons/Tango/24x24/actions/address-book-new.png differs ( PNG image data, 24 x 24, 8-bit/color R GBA, non-interlaced) --- /tmp/tmp.DxFiypOYVS 2010-08-25 07:07:40.000000000 +0000 +++ /tmp/tmp.wG7ZYsxIU5 2010-08-25 07:07:40.000000000 +0000 @@ -58,10 +58,10 @@ 00000390 39 6f 0f 3e 20 81 16 a3 9e 85 ff 1a ff 00 67 f8 |9o.> .........g.| 000003a0 31 7c 0c 93 b4 fd 00 00 00 25 74 45 58 74 64 61 |1|.......%tEXtda| 000003b0 74 65 3a 63 72 65 61 74 65 00 32 30 31 30 2d 30 |te:create.2010-0| -000003c0 38 2d 31 34 54 31 37 3a 34 32 3a 35 39 2b 30 30 |8-14T17:42:59+00| -000003d0 3a 30 30 a9 67 ca a8 00 00 00 25 74 45 58 74 64 |:00.g.....%tEXtd| +000003c0 38 2d 32 35 54 30 37 3a 30 33 3a 33 31 2b 30 30 |8-25T07:03:31+00| +000003d0 3a 30 30 63 01 be 97 00 00 00 25 74 45 58 74 64 |:00c......%tEXtd| 000003e0 61 74 65 3a 6d 6f 64 69 66 79 00 32 30 31 30 2d |ate:modify.2010-| -000003f0 30 38 2d 31 34 54 31 37 3a 34 32 3a 35 39 2b 30 |08-14T17:42:59+0| -00000400 30 3a 30 30 d8 3a 72 14 00 00 00 00 49 45 4e 44 |0:00.:r.....IEND| +000003f0 30 38 2d 32 35 54 30 37 3a 30 33 3a 33 31 2b 30 |08-25T07:03:31+0| +00000400 30 3a 30 30 12 5c 06 2b 00 00 00 00 49 45 4e 44 |0:00.\.+....IEND| 00000410 ae 42 60 82 |.B`.| 00000414 How can I compare two png files with ignoring the timestamp? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
For build-compare, we compare that the files are the same of the current build and the last build - and thus throw away the new build if they are the same.
For this we can ignore all timestamps.
I now have a problem with png files, they contain timestamps, e.g.: /usr/share/icons/Tango/24x24/actions/address-book-new.png differs ( PNG image data, 24 x 24, 8-bit/color R [...] How can I compare two png files with ignoring the timestamp?
According to the build log the file is generated using ImageMagick's convert tool. Google finds this: http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16406 Describes both how to compare image files and how to get rid of the time stamps in the first place. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 27 August 2010 10:39:53 Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
For build-compare, we compare that the files are the same of the current build and the last build - and thus throw away the new build if they are the same.
For this we can ignore all timestamps.
I now have a problem with png files, they contain timestamps, e.g.: /usr/share/icons/Tango/24x24/actions/address-book-new.png differs ( PNG image data, 24 x 24, 8-bit/color R [...] How can I compare two png files with ignoring the timestamp?
According to the build log the file is generated using ImageMagick's convert tool. Google finds this: http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16406 Describes both how to compare image files and how to get rid of the time stamps in the first place.
thanks a lot, will give it a try, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
El 27/08/10 03:30, Andreas Jaeger escribió:
For build-compare, we compare that the files are the same of the current build and the last build - and thus throw away the new build if they are the same.
Over the weekend, I did a review of this as well: a) doxygen didnt make it easier (fixed in sr#46588) b) gtk-doc injects its current version into XML and HTML files (bnc#635376) c) massive usage of __DATE__ __TIME__ proposed alternatives in #bnc635351 d) still images, pdf's and other documents, either generated by htmldoc, dvips (etc..) set the current creation/modification date on generated docs to the build time instead of the source file's. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 27/08/10 03:30, Andreas Jaeger escribió:
For build-compare, we compare that the files are the same of the current build and the last build - and thus throw away the new build if they are the same.
Over the weekend, I did a review of this as well:
a) doxygen didnt make it easier (fixed in sr#46588) b) gtk-doc injects its current version into XML and HTML files (bnc#635376) c) massive usage of __DATE__ __TIME__ proposed alternatives in #bnc635351
d) still images, pdf's and other documents, either generated by htmldoc, dvips (etc..) set the current creation/modification date on generated docs to the build time instead of the source file's.
Well - can we at least avoid re-building noarch packages when there are only meta-changes? Oh no, we can't, because of the stupid build-counter syncs ... Richard.
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Over the weekend, I did a review of this as well:
a) doxygen didnt make it easier (fixed in sr#46588) b) gtk-doc injects its current version into XML and HTML files (bnc#635376) c) massive usage of __DATE__ __TIME__ proposed alternatives in #bnc635351
d) still images, pdf's and other documents, either generated by htmldoc, dvips (etc..) set the current creation/modification date on generated docs to the build time instead of the source file's.
Thanks. Looking at the updates my test machine running FACTORY has seen over the last ten days, this is really a lot. Hopefully those initiatives of yours will help cut this down! 20100909: 725 packages to upgrade, 26 new, 3 to remove, 3 to change arch. Overall download size: 767.3 MiB. After the operation, additional 15.5 MiB will be used. 20100913: 1225 packages to upgrade, 4 new, 1 to change arch. Overall download size: 1009.8 MiB. After the operation, additional 17.6 MiB will be used. 20100917: 709 packages to upgrade, 7 new, 1 to change arch. Overall download size: 589.6 MiB. After the operation, additional 4.6 MiB will be used. Gerald -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp@novell.com> Director Product Management, SUSE Linux Enterprise, openSUSE, Appliances
Le vendredi 17 septembre 2010, à 23:03 +0200, Gerald Pfeifer a écrit :
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Over the weekend, I did a review of this as well:
a) doxygen didnt make it easier (fixed in sr#46588) b) gtk-doc injects its current version into XML and HTML files (bnc#635376) c) massive usage of __DATE__ __TIME__ proposed alternatives in #bnc635351
d) still images, pdf's and other documents, either generated by htmldoc, dvips (etc..) set the current creation/modification date on generated docs to the build time instead of the source file's.
Thanks. Looking at the updates my test machine running FACTORY has seen over the last ten days, this is really a lot. Hopefully those initiatives of yours will help cut this down!
20100909:
725 packages to upgrade, 26 new, 3 to remove, 3 to change arch. Overall download size: 767.3 MiB. After the operation, additional 15.5 MiB will be used.
20100913:
1225 packages to upgrade, 4 new, 1 to change arch. Overall download size: 1009.8 MiB. After the operation, additional 17.6 MiB will be used.
20100917:
709 packages to upgrade, 7 new, 1 to change arch. Overall download size: 589.6 MiB. After the operation, additional 4.6 MiB will be used.
Is there any way we can automatically extract the build-compare output (which is at the end of the build logs), and have some place where we could look at that for packages that haven't changed during rebuilds? That would help know what we need to fix to reduce the size of updates... Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Saturday 18 September 2010 schrieb Vincent Untz:
Le vendredi 17 septembre 2010, à 23:03 +0200, Gerald Pfeifer a écrit :
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Over the weekend, I did a review of this as well:
a) doxygen didnt make it easier (fixed in sr#46588) b) gtk-doc injects its current version into XML and HTML files (bnc#635376) c) massive usage of __DATE__ __TIME__ proposed alternatives in #bnc635351
d) still images, pdf's and other documents, either generated by htmldoc, dvips (etc..) set the current creation/modification date on generated docs to the build time instead of the source file's.
Thanks. Looking at the updates my test machine running FACTORY has seen over the last ten days, this is really a lot. Hopefully those initiatives of yours will help cut this down!
20100909: 725 packages to upgrade, 26 new, 3 to remove, 3 to change arch. Overall download size: 767.3 MiB. After the operation, additional 15.5 MiB will be used.
20100913: 1225 packages to upgrade, 4 new, 1 to change arch. Overall download size: 1009.8 MiB. After the operation, additional 17.6 MiB will be used.
20100917: 709 packages to upgrade, 7 new, 1 to change arch. Overall download size: 589.6 MiB. After the operation, additional 4.6 MiB will be used.
Is there any way we can automatically extract the build-compare output (which is at the end of the build logs), and have some place where we could look at that for packages that haven't changed during rebuilds?
The build-compare output in its current form is pointless as you only see the first file in the first rpm that's different. That very often a changed buildid in a random binary - that won't help you fix the problem, because if the debuginfo is different, the buildid has to change. The real question then is, why is the debuginfo different. And very often it's a strange string containg the date or host. I don't think we should harm so many build processes to save another 100 MB, but we should concentrate on getting factory deltas working. This would still mean 1225 packages to upgrade, but the download size would be around 50MB (and it would eat up more CPU). Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Le lundi 20 septembre 2010, à 09:39 +0200, Stephan Kulow a écrit :
I don't think we should harm so many build processes to save another 100 MB, but we should concentrate on getting factory deltas working. This would still mean 1225 packages to upgrade, but the download size would be around 50MB (and it would eat up more CPU).
Can someone write down what is needed to make this happen? This could help people give it a try. https://features.opensuse.org/303532 was opened more than two years ago, and based on this, the only thing I can tell is that we would need to adapt backend parts. Which doesn't really tell me a lot ;-) Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Monday 20 September 2010 schrieb Vincent Untz:
Le lundi 20 septembre 2010, à 09:39 +0200, Stephan Kulow a écrit :
I don't think we should harm so many build processes to save another 100 MB, but we should concentrate on getting factory deltas working. This would still mean 1225 packages to upgrade, but the download size would be around 50MB (and it would eat up more CPU).
Can someone write down what is needed to make this happen? This could help people give it a try.
https://features.opensuse.org/303532 was opened more than two years ago, and based on this, the only thing I can tell is that we would need to adapt backend parts. Which doesn't really tell me a lot ;-)
I don't think there has been put enough thought into this yet ;( What I would do: - change the build script to not only do the build-compare, but also create the delta rpm if the rpms are different. This gives you build-by-build deltas. - collect these delta rpms into a seperate repo, where they are collected and wiped purely by age whenever the :repo is going to be published - change the publisher to create a subdirectory in the normal repo with these deltas - support a flag in the project to enable or disable the use of delta rpms. I don't think we want them generally as they will eat up a lot of space. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Stephan Kulow wrote:
What I would do: - change the build script to not only do the build-compare, but also create the delta rpm if the rpms are different. This gives you build-by-build deltas.
The build script actually already has code for that. It just needs an installed deltarpm package. However, the needed script in the build rpm itself isn't packaged currently. We may need to introduce another build subpackage (e.g. build-makedeltarpm) that just includes that script (/usr/lib/build/makedeltarpms). Then a line "Supports: deltarpm build-makedeltarpm" in prjconf would be sufficient to trigger generating delta rpms. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 18 September 2010 18:38:04 Vincent Untz wrote:
Is there any way we can automatically extract the build-compare output (which is at the end of the build logs), and have some place where we could look at that for packages that haven't changed during rebuilds?
I just grepped through all logfiles and generated the following list. Changes to build-compare or fixes for the pacakges are always welcome! This does not show the binary files that are different, just the rest. 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El 17/09/10 17:03, Gerald Pfeifer escribió:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Over the weekend, I did a review of this as well:
a) doxygen didnt make it easier (fixed in sr#46588) b) gtk-doc injects its current version into XML and HTML files (bnc#635376) c) massive usage of __DATE__ __TIME__ proposed alternatives in #bnc635351
d) still images, pdf's and other documents, either generated by htmldoc, dvips (etc..) set the current creation/modification date on generated docs to the build time instead of the source file's.
Thanks. Looking at the updates my test machine running FACTORY has seen over the last ten days, this is really a lot. Hopefully those initiatives of yours will help cut this down!
I submitted a massive batch of packages attempting to correct this, still there are plenty more, most are autogenerated documentation, mayor annoyance is ghostscript, or related tools that generate pdfs, Looking at the source code, it says putting current localtime in pdf files is indeed wrong BUT that's how adobe does it... Also wrote a patch to build-compare to make it attempt to compare pdfs in a reasonable way, it is quite hackish as according to my research, there is no clean way to compare the whole PDF "appearance" with total confidence :| Not sure it is a good idea at all. I did write a few rpmlint checks [1] one for checking __DATE__ and __TIME__ and other for checking if the "buildhost" is embeeded in binaries, as many stuff uses "built: __DATE__ __TIME__ on: $host by $user" :-| [1] http://gitorious.org/opensuse/rpmlint-checks/merge_requests/2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Over the weekend, I did a review of this as well:
a) doxygen didnt make it easier (fixed in sr#46588) b) gtk-doc injects its current version into XML and HTML files (bnc#635376) c) massive usage of __DATE__ __TIME__ proposed alternatives in #bnc635351
d) still images, pdf's and other documents, either generated by htmldoc, dvips (etc..) set the current creation/modification date on generated docs to the build time instead of the source file's.
Thanks. Looking at the updates my test machine running FACTORY has seen over the last ten days, this is really a lot. Hopefully those initiatives of yours will help cut this down!
20100909:
725 packages to upgrade, 26 new, 3 to remove, 3 to change arch. Overall download size: 767.3 MiB. After the operation, additional 15.5 MiB will be used.
20100913:
1225 packages to upgrade, 4 new, 1 to change arch. Overall download size: 1009.8 MiB. After the operation, additional 17.6 MiB will be used.
20100917:
709 packages to upgrade, 7 new, 1 to change arch. Overall download size: 589.6 MiB. After the operation, additional 4.6 MiB will be used.
Now somebody come and say this does _not_ make Factory unusable as a way to develop and test openSUSE. Richard.
On 20/09/10 10:06, Richard Guenther wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Over the weekend, I did a review of this as well:
a) doxygen didnt make it easier (fixed in sr#46588) b) gtk-doc injects its current version into XML and HTML files (bnc#635376) c) massive usage of __DATE__ __TIME__ proposed alternatives in #bnc635351
d) still images, pdf's and other documents, either generated by htmldoc, dvips (etc..) set the current creation/modification date on generated docs to the build time instead of the source file's.
Thanks. Looking at the updates my test machine running FACTORY has seen over the last ten days, this is really a lot. Hopefully those initiatives of yours will help cut this down!
20100909:
725 packages to upgrade, 26 new, 3 to remove, 3 to change arch. Overall download size: 767.3 MiB. After the operation, additional 15.5 MiB will be used.
20100913:
1225 packages to upgrade, 4 new, 1 to change arch. Overall download size: 1009.8 MiB. After the operation, additional 17.6 MiB will be used.
20100917:
709 packages to upgrade, 7 new, 1 to change arch. Overall download size: 589.6 MiB. After the operation, additional 4.6 MiB will be used.
Now somebody come and say this does _not_ make Factory unusable as a way to develop and test openSUSE.
Richard. Do what I do, and run most of the system on factory-snapshot, and update only selected packages when bugs you care about are fixed (or when someone asks you to test a certain package).
No excuses. Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
On 20/09/10 10:06, Richard Guenther wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Over the weekend, I did a review of this as well:
a) doxygen didnt make it easier (fixed in sr#46588) b) gtk-doc injects its current version into XML and HTML files (bnc#635376) c) massive usage of __DATE__ __TIME__ proposed alternatives in #bnc635351
d) still images, pdf's and other documents, either generated by htmldoc, dvips (etc..) set the current creation/modification date on generated docs to the build time instead of the source file's.
Thanks. Looking at the updates my test machine running FACTORY has seen over the last ten days, this is really a lot. Hopefully those initiatives of yours will help cut this down!
20100909:
725 packages to upgrade, 26 new, 3 to remove, 3 to change arch. Overall download size: 767.3 MiB. After the operation, additional 15.5 MiB will be used.
20100913:
1225 packages to upgrade, 4 new, 1 to change arch. Overall download size: 1009.8 MiB. After the operation, additional 17.6 MiB will be used.
20100917:
709 packages to upgrade, 7 new, 1 to change arch. Overall download size: 589.6 MiB. After the operation, additional 4.6 MiB will be used.
Now somebody come and say this does _not_ make Factory unusable as a way to develop and test openSUSE.
Richard. Do what I do, and run most of the system on factory-snapshot, and update only selected packages when bugs you care about are fixed (or when someone asks you to test a certain package).
No excuses.
Hm, what works for me is keeping my system on openSUSE 11.1 and installing factory versions of the packages I develop or care about. Of course with a more usable Factory the idea would be to improve test coverage also for packages you do _not_ specially care about (not to mention that eventually more people will be able to use Factory, or making an automated Factory-testing, similar to Debian testing possible ...). Richard. -- Richard Guenther <rguenther@suse.de> Novell / SUSE Labs SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nuernberg - AG Nuernberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:06:07 +0200 (CEST) Richard Guenther <rguenther@suse.de> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
Now somebody come and say this does _not_ make Factory unusable as a way to develop and test openSUSE.
"zypper addlock texlive*" makes download sizes much smaller. Just fixing build-compare for texlive and friends would save most of this ;-) (Assuming that Gerald has texlive installed, but I guess he has). Once per month, when I'm on a really fast connection, I remove the lock and update texlive*. But I also have a script that I use with "zypper -v up|zypperfilter.pl" to determine if updating is worth the hassle: #!/usr/bin/perl -w # zypper 1.2.16-1.6 -> 1.2.16-1.10 while (<>) { #print "debug: $_"; if (m/^(\S+)/) { $name = $1; chomp $name; next; } # 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 next unless m/^\s*(\d+.*)-(\d+)\.(\d+) -> (\d+.*)-(\d+)\.(\d+)/; if ($1 ne $4) { print "$name: $_"; next; } if ($2 != $5) { print "$name: $_"; } } It is not perfect., but it helps filtering out the noise. -- Stefan Seyfried "Any ideas, John?" "Well, surrounding them's out." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Friday 17 September 2010 schrieb Gerald Pfeifer:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Over the weekend, I did a review of this as well:
a) doxygen didnt make it easier (fixed in sr#46588) b) gtk-doc injects its current version into XML and HTML files (bnc#635376) c) massive usage of __DATE__ __TIME__ proposed alternatives in #bnc635351
d) still images, pdf's and other documents, either generated by htmldoc, dvips (etc..) set the current creation/modification date on generated docs to the build time instead of the source file's.
Thanks. Looking at the updates my test machine running FACTORY has seen over the last ten days, this is really a lot. Hopefully those initiatives of yours will help cut this down!
One thing I changed now is to change the scheduling to only rebuild direct dependencies. This might create some more problems, but it should reduce the number of pushed out packages. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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