Just my 2ct's. As a former windows user I can use KDE 3.5.10 without a problem. KDE 4.1 is a whole new ballgame! Of course I will get used to it in time but I think keeping 3.5.10 around in the Opensuse release is a lot better for new users switching from the likes of Vista or XP. Everyday users who know the desktop the way it is in 3.5.10 and not 4.1. Also, not knowing anything about programming and things I cannot contribute as much as other people. A thought thou is that is it not possible to add a network install to get 3.5.10 onto the DVD? Say, install a basic gui that will allow you to set-up your network and repositories and then download all you need for 3.5.10? I'll be sticking with 11.0 if they remove KDE 3.5.x from 11.1 :-) Regards, Jan-Bart Spang --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org