In all respect this is really not a Freight Train issue. But even if it was the maintenance of said packages which are apparently mission critical should lay with the team working on it for their day-job. That said i do appreciate the information Richard But if we are all to work together stuff like this needs to follow a agreed on set of rules. It's just very counter productive. Mark On Wed 12 Feb 2014 09:01:39 AM PST, Richard Brown wrote:

Hi Mark,

Have you contacted the people in question, or (if they are employed by SUSE working on the package as part of their $dayjob, which I think might be true in this case) have you contacted the 'Freight Train' Team?

http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Freight_Train

If you haven't, I think you should explore that option before making decisions about your maintainership with Plymouth We've got people willing to help sort these kind of problems, makes sense to me to try them first :)

Hope this helps,

Richard

On 12 February 2014 17:43, Mark van Tinteren <kigurame@gmail.com> wrote:

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After only a week or so of being maintainer of this package I feel I have to relinquish maintainer-ship of this package.

The reasons for this are that after reworking the entire package this weekend and bringing it in-sync with upstream development and as i got ready to submit said changes. I found that some of you found it necessary to submit and approve your own patches without even as much as a heads up. This creates unnecessary extra work and apparently being the maintainer of a package does'nt mean much.

If any of you would like to take over Plymouth please let me know.

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I submitted it to the Freight Train team and will wait for their advice. After talking some with Richard Brown i would like to apologize to all involved for my outburst. It's just really frustrating spending several days updating patches to match the upstream version adding patches for open bugreports rewriting the spec to match the changes upstream to find other people have been helping themselves creating double work (even they are in their full right todo so). I still say that if this package is mission critical to them it's better for them to have maintenance and i can submit changes to them. It would make more sense to me. I will hold of on making any changes until i hear further. mark On Wed 12 Feb 2014 09:36:57 AM PST, İsmail Dönmez wrote:

Hi,

On 12-Feb-14 7:15 PM, Mark van Tinteren wrote:

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In all respect this is really not a Freight Train issue. But even if it was the maintenance of said packages which are apparently mission critical should lay with the team working on it for their day-job.

That said i do appreciate the information Richard But if we are all to work together stuff like this needs to follow a agreed on set of rules. It's just very counter productive.

Well the rule is if the package has active maintainer(s), you just SR your change wait for maintainers to react. In this case this rule is broken by a SUSE employee. This imho is a Freight Train issue.

So, please contact them and try to resolve the issue before giving up maintainership.

Regards, ismail

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On 12 February 2014 18:23, Wolfgang Rosenauer <wolfgang@rosenauer.org> wrote:

Hi,

Am 12.02.2014 18:01, schrieb Richard Brown:

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http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Freight_Train

If you haven't, I think you should explore that option before making decisions about your maintainership with Plymouth We've got people willing to help sort these kind of problems, makes sense to me to try them first :)

in light of transparency: why is there no reference who is in that team on that page?

According to http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-buildservice/2012-04/msg00254.html and http://jaegerandi.blogspot.de/2012/04/opensuses-freight-train.html the team includes Jos, Henne, and AJ My *GUESS* would be that their names are not included on the wiki page in order to discourage people from contacting them directly and instead use the correct contact method of freighttrain@opensuse.org They're all busy people and as a team of 3 they can probably be more effective than if people contacted any one of them individually. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org